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somebody that did it with a rx7

USsil80 wrote: http://www.zeroyon.com/forums/...=8819

somebody that did it with a rx7

Lot easier to bring over a car that's got an existing chassis here....the FD chassis has already been crash-tested.

Count Zero wrote:Lot easier to bring over a car that's got an existing chassis here....the FD chassis has already been crash-tested.

incorrect!!! it doesnt make it easyer if the car your importing has a US counter part.

How about this?

Since no one seems to have the correct answers, or wishes to share with the Admin staff to prove they can do it, let's not talk about it anymore.

So many people out there claim that they can get them state legal. That DOES NOT make them federally legal, and it still poses the possiblilty that it could get impounded, crushed, etc.

Turtle, Celm.

If you guys have some insider info on how to do it and get it done right, by all means, contact Greg and I, and let us in on what's up. We won't leak your info to anyone else that you haven't already given it too. We just want to make sure you guys aren't trying to scam people out of several thousand dollars, or worse yet, sell someone a car they can't drive on the street. If we like what we see, maybe we can set something up just for our NICO brethren.

I just don't want people getting bad info, or no info at all on what they are getting into.

this is one of 2 parts of my process that i share publicly about titling

Motor Vehicle Titling and Registration(this is from the DOT web site)

NHTSA is not responsible for regulating the operation of motor vehicles on public roads in the U.S. or for titling or registering motor vehicles for such operation. That is instead the responsibility of the individual States. Some States may require a manufacturer's certificate of origin (MCO) or manufacturer's statement of origin (MSO) to register a new motor vehicle. These are not federally required documents. NHTSA, therefore, is not in a position to offer guidance to prospective vehicle manufacturers or vehicle purchasers on obtaining a needed MCO or MSO. Consumers with questions regarding these documents should direct those questions to their State’s Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV).

the second part is that i do have to get the car inspected by a DMV official who only deals with cars from overseas

Modified by celm at 10:04 PM 3/25/2007
Modified by celm at 10:10 PM 3/25/2007

yes that is for cars in the states... all imported items have to be declared and released by customs... as far as my knowledge goes... so the vehicle would have to be released through a federal agency to get into the states

everything has to go threw customs,just because u bring a RHD RX7 in. and it has crash test BS doesnt mean SH&T,it doesnt make it any easyer to import it.

you never imported a car,so what grounds do you have.and i dont want to hear the " i read it on the internet "

so you are imprting and selling the r33 year 1996-1998..dates could be wrong but limited to the short span.. according to the nhtsa that is the only vechical able to be imprted into the usa..the docket number is posted all over this thread if you want to read the internet

USsil80 wrote:so you are imprting and selling the r33 year 1996-1998..dates could be wrong but limited to the short span.. according to the nhtsa that is the only vechical able to be imprted into the usa..the docket number is posted all over this thread if you want to read the internet

not to be rude but you are clueless and i do have a 95 GTR33 for sale.titled and state side

ok so mybe exuse my ideas alittle not trying to be rude ... wife said i can get a skyline when i get out the service in 2 years so i really want people to imort them and legalize them- but what from what you said and the way i understand your cars will only be legal in the state you regester them... am i understanding you right

USsil80 wrote:- but what from what you said and the way i understand your cars will only be legal in the state you regester them... am i understanding you right

im not trying to jump down your neck,im sory for being on teh defensive.but no my cars can be transfered to other states.CA is questionable

celm wrote:
incorrect!!! it doesnt make it easyer if the car your importing has a US counter part.

It MOST CERTAINLY does.

I'll not be doing your research for you, but it's all in the links I provided...

celm wrote:
not to be rude but you are clueless and i do have a 95 GTR33 for sale.titled and state side

...and it's STILL not Federalized.

He's not clueless, he was right on the money.

AZhitman wrote:
It MOST CERTAINLY does.

I'll not be doing your research for you, but it's all in the links I provided...

oh really,you bring a JDM car that has a US counter part and see what happens when when it hits port.and what cars have you brought over??

"One basis for determining a motor vehicle eligible for importation is that it 1) is substantially similar to a motor vehicle of the same model year that was manufactured for sale in the United States and certified by its manufacturer as complying with all applicable FMVSS and 2) is capable of being readily altered to comply with all applicable FMVSS. See 49 U.S.C. § 30141(a)(1)(A).

Watch your tone with me, Son - I'm not one of your JDM nutswinging friends.

"Our experience has shown that the safety performance of right-hand drive vehicles is not necessarily the same as that of apparently similar left-hand drive vehicles offered for sale in this country. However, we will consider the vehicles "substantially similar" if the manufacturer advises us that the right-hand drive vehicle would perform the same as the U.S.-certified left-hand drive vehicle in dynamic crash tests. "

1988 Z31 is a perfect example - It'll roll right through (VSA‑81 Eligibility).

AZhitman wrote:"Our experience has shown that the safety performance of right-hand drive vehicles is not necessarily the same as that of apparently similar left-hand drive vehicles offered for sale in this country. However, we will consider the vehicles "substantially similar" if the manufacturer advises us that the right-hand drive vehicle would perform the same as the U.S.-certified left-hand drive vehicle in dynamic crash tests. "

1988 Z31 is a perfect example - It'll roll right through (VSA‑81 Eligibility).

im only refering to JDM RHD CARS!!not 25 years old so it wont be just drive off the boat deal.being RHD and with out a RI ,wont happen as well.and your buddy Birkmire lives in my town.hes seen the cars i imported

It makes it MUCH easier. That's all I'm saying.

Eliminates the need for crash-testing and such.

And "seeing" a car that's been imported means nothing to me. Seeing Federalization docs would impress me.

p.s. It's Birkmire. Doctor Birkmire, to you.

AZhitman wrote: Doctor Birkmire, to you.

i always call him Rex when i see him

Yes. JDM, RHD, 1981 Z31. Look it up. Reading's good for you.

I'm not interested in the offshore disassembly cars that are coming in through Orlando, I've seen them often. Good friend of mine in Orlando used to do some reassembly of them. They're illegal, no matter how you slice it.

AZhitman wrote:Yes. JDM, RHD, 1981 Z31. Look it up. Reading's good for you.

I'm not interested in the offshore disassembly cars that are coming in through Orlando, I've seen them often. Good friend of mine in Orlando used to do some reassembly of them. They're illegal, no matter how you slice it.

you wrote 1988 up top there buddy,and i dont take my cars apart

Sorry, typo. Meant 88.

Frank, I don't care WHAT you do with them, they're not Federally legal. THat's ALL I'm saying.

There's a hundred other guys telling people the SAME thing you are - it's nothing new, it's nothing unique - Hell, there's a guy here in AZ doing the same gig.

They are NOT cars that one can drive around without being nervous. Period.

Would anyone who has a legal Skyline be able to show pictures of the legal documents? You can blackout any essential personal information. I don't know if asking this is out of line or not. I would just like to see what these documents look like as I have never seen them before. Also, a person trying to buy a legal Skyline would be able to have some idea of what the documents looked like, being able to decern from fakes. If it's not possible, would someone direct me as to where I can find sample documents? Thanks in advance.

son of krypton wrote:Would anyone who has a legal Skyline be able to show pictures of the legal documents? You can blackout any essential personal information. I don't know if asking this is out of line or not. I would just like to see what these documents look like as I have never seen them before. Also, a person trying to buy a legal Skyline would be able to have some idea of what the documents looked like, being able to decern from fakes. If it's not possible, would someone direct me as to where I can find sample documents? Thanks in advance.

Here, check this thread.

zerothread/234745

He has pictures of all his documents that would be included with a legal Skyline. He is selling it, so you might want to contact him.

Laters,-Neal

Thank you. I checked out that thread before. I downloaded the image of the NHSTA document and zoomed in to take a better look. I was not sure if that was the actual document. Is a DOT/NHSTA bond release document the actual thing I should be looking out for? I guess what I'm asking is. . .Does this document mean it's DOT/NHSTA approved? ( I understand a certificate of title will probably look similar for every state.)

Would these two documents be the only documents all one would need? (Sorry about the newbie question.) These two documents are all the seller has, having posted replies by administrators of the forum supporting and seemingly confirming it's authenticity (turned into a sticky).

AZhitman wrote:Sorry, typo. Meant 88.

Frank, I don't care WHAT you do with them, they're not Federally legal. THat's ALL I'm saying.

There's a hundred other guys telling people the SAME thing you are - it's nothing new, it's nothing unique - Hell, there's a guy here in AZ doing the same gig.

They are NOT cars that one can drive around without being nervous. Period.

hey azhitman, i got a R32 GTS-T already here in the states but its probably gonna sell fast... its gun metal and its clean. hit me up and ill give you the price california registered

Is it a Motorex car?

99% of the time "State Titled" and "State Registered" translates to "Illegally imported and titled as kit car, despite the fact that the NHTSA flat out lists the Skyline as *not* a kit car."

dude if u dont know how to title these cars please dont comment on it.cause your 100% wrong,KIT CAR.i would love to slap the person who first use that phrase on the forums

*shrug*Suit yourself......call the NHTSA and ask them.

Count Zero wrote:*shrug*Suit yourself......call the NHTSA and ask them.

I'm implying that your wrong,99% of these cars are titled for what they are.No "assembled from parts" or "rebuild" for forum educated people there terminology is "KIT CAR". i would take one of my state titled cars over a MX car any day.at least i didn't have to fraud the govt saying my car was modded to comply but it wasn't.i take my cars to the state DOT office and the inspector who only deals with cars from overseas does his inspection and if it passes,its titled. And yes they know what these cars are!!

oh and my favorit little phrase from the NHTSA

NHTSA is not responsible for regulating the operation of motor vehicles on public roads in the U.S. or for titling or registering motor vehicles for such operation. That is instead the responsibility of the individual States. Some States may require a manufacturer's certificate of origin (MCO) or manufacturer's statement of origin (MSO) to register a new motor vehicle.