so you want a CHEAP(IE FWD) vq35de in your 240sx???

Post by **irax** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:59 pm

Then I am the man to speak to about this. I am currently in production of conversion mounts that lets you fit a FWD VQ into your RWD 240sx. I will post pictures as soon as possible and MODS if you could please email me info about group buy and advertising information that would be great. Because I love nico.

but here's a teaser.

Post by **JIMSALTIMA** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:42 pm

DO YOU KNOW ALOT ABOUT THE VQ35DE MOTOR?

Post by **irax** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:29 am

I know alot about the VQ35DE not ALL though

do you have question? do you want to put a VQ35DE into your 240sx?

Post by **wrxratd** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:48 am

irax wrote:do you have question? do you want to put a VQ35DE into your 240sx?

Who doesn't!?!?!?! I'm looking to do some sort of swap on my turd nugget in the future. VQ30/35 is looking VERY tempting.

Post by **irax** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:41 pm

VQ30's are VERY affordable, you can get them for about as much as a KA anyways. I have a wiring diagram from JWT on how to wire up a VQ30 ecu but its from the 96 Maxima. And I am not sure if its the same for earlier or later VQ30 maximas.

Post by **Q45tech** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:44 am

How do you avoid the Federal Felony of violating the Clean Air Act by substituting a larger displacement engine and CARB violations on emission testing. Selling such things in California is serious fraud and punishable with a $10,000 fine.

Buyers as always beware.

Post by **wrxratd** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:58 am

Possibly by making the customer sign a disclosure stating that the vehicle is for off road purposes only. Same way people can sell catless down pipes for suby's etc...

Post by **irax** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:39 pm

I know Q45tech you keep saying that, but I have talked to the state ref and there is no problem putting in a factory engine from a newer car into an older car. How come you don't clammer down on the SR threads? Or the VH threads? or the LS1 threads? According to California Air Resource Board putting a known good configuration into an older car is valid. How else would the guy down here who put in a 7MGTE into an 86 corolla and get it legalized? the 7MGTE is 3.0 and the 86 is what? 1.6 ltr? thats almost twice the displacement! It was not even offered in the same year range! He has a Bureau of Automotive Repair sticker!

I swear to god this is the 5th time that we have talked about this. I would really appreciate it if the next time you bring this up you furnish proof that putting a newer engine in an older car while installing all the emissions equipment from the newer car is not valid. I'm not trying to sound mean or harsh but I swear to GOD all mighty in heaven above us(for those of us who do believe in a God) that this is at least the 3rd time ME and YOU spoke about this and I remember last time furnishing proof from the PDF on the CARB website saying that it was valid at the very least in California which has the strictest emissions laws and therefore technically valid in all 50 sates.

Look, what I am offering is the possibility of putting in a Federal Legal motor into your car. The follow through of getting it legalized is up to you if you want, because you may want to street drive it or you may want to build a race car. Even if it is a race car the SR20DET is an illegal motor through and through we both know this. But putting in a VQ30 or VQ35DE and using ALL the factory emissions is completely legal in California. While there is some issues running a FWD vq30 as rwd as there were no rwd vq30 headers that were available in a passenger car but it is up to the ref to allow using newer factory headers. Which means you can use 350z factory headers on a vq30de-k in this type of application.

It is like this, if it is California Legal it is Federal Legal. If it is Federal Legal, it does not mean it is California Legal.
Modified by irax at 8:51 AM 2/19/2009

Post by **wrxratd** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:02 am

Ummmm... Oh snap???

So how bout some more information on the mounts etc. required to do this swap?

Post by **irax** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:32 am

ok so what is required to do this swap you ask?

FWD VQ engineRWD intake manifoldRWD exhaustRWD upper and lower oil panEngine/dash wiring harness from the VQ car you got the ecu and bcm fromNVIS or NATS with key from the fermentationed car My mounts which use the 300zx motor mounts and trans bushinga drive shaftRWD vq35de transmission revup or non revup doesnt matter just needs to be the same generation of VQ since HR,DE,and VR trans are not interchangeable. RWD waterpipesGreffin RadiatorMy shift linkage kit or the guy from vq240z.com's kit he is selling on hybridz.org. A custom exhaustAn ABS source IE an ABS diff or abs spindle to get a Speed signalDakota Digital Converter to convert ABS pulse into speed pulse. To 'smog' the car or ref it and get it BAR approved you will need the catalytic converters from a RWD plat formSmog equipment from the car you took the ecu/bcm/nats/key fromyou may need an IPDM depending on the ecu you use. You will need to upgrade the fuel pump to a 300zx or Q45 or a walboro 255lhrYou will need an aftermarket FPR preferebly a nismo or aeromotiveyou can use a FPR off of a VQ30 but you will need to modify to fitYou need a DBW gas pedal obviously if you use a DBW VQ ECUthe one from the z33 and the 5.5 gen and 6th gen maxima work

Post by **wrxratd** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:49 am

Well, most of the wiring/ecu/emissions stuff won't apply to my project as i'm planning on using megasquirt stuff and i live in north dakota sooooo, yeah, what the crap is emissions equipment? How hard is it to mate the z33 trans to say a vq30de motor? Or will that not work at all without an adapter plate? I'm sorry as i'm very new to the nissan scene, and the search function does not like me very well on nico for some reason. Or is it really just that hard to find info on this swap?

Post by **irax** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:34 am

the VQ30DE motor will bolt up to a Z33 transmission with out a doubt. Tough to mount a starter you will need to use a Z33/G35 upper and lower oil pan.

Post by **wrxratd** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:43 am

right on. Thanks for the info.

I'm not afraid of fabrication work, i'm afraid of wasting money on things that won't work together and then having to sell them at a loss.Thanks again!

Post by **wantz87** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:46 pm

hey irax, if i got you all the parts, how much would you charge to do this swap? and about how long would it take now that you have it all figured out?

Post by **dan14sweeney** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:41 pm

Irax still waiting to here more about your buddy in texas im about to tear down my 05 z33 vq and replace all the gaskets and add cams....really need info on the wiring i only have the engine/tranny harness, ecu, maf....none of the key or interior harness is this a problem?

Post by **irax** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:31 am

Because I am paying attention to a lot of threads on different forums please contact me with any questions

ibsemailis AT gmail.com

nismos134

Post by **SxMachine** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:51 pm

Q45tech wrote:How do you avoid the Federal Felony of violating the Clean Air Act by substituting a larger displacement engine and CARB violations on emission testing. Selling such things in California is serious fraud and punishable with a $10,000 fine.

Buyers as always beware.

I hate to say who cares, but imma say it WHO CARES. We all kno that cali has some of the most bs too little too late laws when it comes to cars n emissions anyway.

Anyway more info on your install please. Im up 2 my neck in turbos right now and looking 4 a less expensive route 4 my s13 n the 3.0 is a great na platform.

Post by **irax** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:26 pm

I have a fwd mounting kit available and a wiring guide from JimWolfTech on how to wire up a 96 maxima ecu which is the best of all the 3.0 vq ecus

email me or hit me up on aim and I can ship it out asap.

Post by **DJ Raijin** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:09 am

I have a question:

Do these fwd vq35s have the same aftermarket as the 350Z? like..if I wanted to put a vortech on one of these and the kit is for a 350Z, would it still work?

Post by **irax** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:07 pm

one of the differences on the FWD VQ and the RWD VQ is the belt system. Anything dependant on that you have to get the FWD version. but as far as headers, cams, pistons, cranks, rods, block liners, coilpacks, or intake manfilds... its all interchangeable.

Post by **DJ Raijin** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:15 am

irax wrote:one of the differences on the FWD VQ and the RWD VQ is the belt system. Anything dependant on that you have to get the FWD version. but as far as headers, cams, pistons, cranks, rods, block liners, coilpacks, or intake manfilds... its all interchangeable.

ok good to know. so if i were to pursue an NA build on a 350SX, it could be done all day long but for FI, i'd have to stick to turbochargers. Gotcha.

Good stuff! I'll be letting you know when I can get a 240SX lol

Post by **PhillyDaKid-S13** » Sat May 09, 2009 8:40 am

it really is too bad no one offers wiring services for this swap. Thats the only thing that really would hold a lot of people back, and making this a more viable swap to the average 240 owner. sigh, someday.

Post by **irax** » Sun May 10, 2009 2:36 pm

well we are going to be offering wiring service to cars locally

Post by **dan14sweeney** » Mon May 11, 2009 2:55 am

and me right? lol did you ever talk to that guy you know in my area?

Post by **bman49** » Mon May 11, 2009 6:27 am

This is a little off topic, but Irax you totally kit a$$. Also how far along are you in developing the rwd VQ swap kit?

Post by **irax** » Mon May 11, 2009 3:18 pm

hey buddy send me an email

[email protected]

Post by **dan14sweeney** » Mon May 11, 2009 5:59 pm

who me?

Post by **irax** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:17 pm

lol didn't you get my email dan?

no i was telling bman49 to email me

Post by **PhillyDaKid-S13** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:00 pm

Hey irax. wanted to get a hold of you because Ive decided that Im definitely going to be going vq for my swap. When do you expect to have these motor mounts ready for sale? and also, you said that that rwd drive (ie g35/350z) intake mani is necessary. is it a direct bolt on to the fwd heads or will it have to be modified? instead of going through all the trouble to get a speed signal, ive been following a vq35 into s14 swap over at my350z.com and that guy custom mounted a 350z cluster (which can be had for dumb cheap on ebay) into his dash, i will go the same route to avoid the trouble, just wanted to put that out there that thats also an option. IPDM, what exactly is that? and which smog equipment from the donor car is necessary (egr valves, etc?) Ive also noticed that the 350z trans bolts right up to the ka trans mounts, does your swap kit also provide this convenience? and last question (i promise!). a couple of the swaps ive seen had trouble with the starter because of engagment issues with the flywheel. have you ran into any trouble with this, or is this something thats dependent on parts used, etc? what I eventually plan on doing is compiling a vq->s13 thread because there is a LOT of interest in this, but not a lot of info in one place, and ive come across a LOT info, including a way to bypass the NATS system (possibly) and a remedy for controlling the variable timing on the vq35 (again possibly....). in any event, love to hear what you have to say on my inquiries. thanks.

Post by **gregfarz78** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:11 pm

hey philly if you are looking for a Z gauge cluster I have one for sale I was going to use it like the other guy did but I have a different plan

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