So those bikers who attacked the family in the SUV...

[Jesda]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/09/gr ... latestnews

11 have been charged.

Didn't know until now that it was the undercover cop who smashed the rear glass.

Hope he gets the longest prison sentence.

[Dattebayo]

The story doesn't sound so one-sided to me, but then again I have only found a little detail on it?

Edit: I saw the footage, and it was definitely started by the bikers. Idiot slows down and looks to the left right in front of the SUV making the driver hit him, then some hot-head opens the driver's door trying to confront the man about it violently. THIS is the fear that makes me sure I always lock my door.

But what's the story with the guy who got both his legs run over?

[Looneybomber]

But what's the story with the guy who got both his legs run over?

Hope he sues and wins.

[Jesda]

But what's the story with the guy who got both his legs run over?

One of his thug buddies bump-stopped the SUV. His other thug buddies started smashing the glass and smashing the tires. Driver had no choice but to gun it and run over anyone in front of him to protect his wife and child.

[Jesda]

But what's the story with the guy who got both his legs run over?

Hope he sues and wins.

Hope he never walks again.

[Looneybomber]

But what's the story with the guy who got both his legs run over?

Hope he sues and wins.

Hope he never walks again.

I read his injuries were pretty bad and he may not, that's why I think he should sue.

[Heavy]

Oh you mean they guy that was driving around with a revoked license that also did not carry a M endorsement? Yeah... im sticking with jesda on this one. I saw this group earlier that day flying down broadway in the OPPOSITE lane of traffic, running red lights, and cutting off cars. I feel zero pity for any of them

[gwoods]

Start seeing motorcycles.....riding like they value their life as much as they expect you to.

In Arizona the SUV driver would have been armed

[skydragoness]

Oh you mean they guy that was driving around with a revoked license that also did not carry a M endorsement? Yeah... im sticking with jesda on this one. I saw this group earlier that day flying down broadway in the OPPOSITE lane of traffic, running red lights, and cutting off cars. I feel zero pity for any of them

It's good you pointed that out, I don't think anyone knows what they were doing before that video footage.

There's a lot of crazy bike "stunt" gangs in Bmore too and it sucks how they make other law-abiding motorcyclists look bad. Glad these d!ck got what they deserved.

[stm37s]

when it comes to protecting your family any sane man will do what he has to do, you can only imagine what was going thru his head. If put in the same situation and I'm surrounded in my car with my wife and daughter, I would do the same thing, family comes first bruh. That's just the way it is, a man is supposed to protect the one's he loves, just my 2c bruh

[krash]

I'm one of those people that think that if you're driving around like an a$$ on a vehicle that is a bug on the road compared to other vehicles and you had your legs broken because of it, then you kind of deserve it.

[gwoods]

Hope he sues and wins.

Hope he never walks again.[/quote]
I read his injuries were pretty bad and he may not, that's why I think he should sue.[/quote]


He can sue his dirtbag friends that created the situation

[Looneybomber]

He can sue his dirtbag friends that created the situation

This may be the more appropriate solution. It's not his fault he got run over, but instead his friends'.
Should his friends get in trouble? Yes, and be lucky they weren't in KS since a lot of us conceal carry.

[Dattebayo]

I'm glad that asking the right questions has brought about a more whole picture of what was really going on.

There's a lot of crazy bike "stunt" gangs in Bmore too and it sucks how they make other law-abiding motorcyclists look bad.

Is that really true? I know of a few ricer clubs near Glen Burnie, but they all seem like social clubs instead...

[skydragoness]

You haven't heard of the "Bmore Xtreme" (oh I don't know how they spell it) or the "12 o'clock Boys" (of which someone is making a documentary?

I live far enough away from the city so I don't know. They shut down intersections pulling off their super-cool stunts.

[Dattebayo]

Nope. Strange that someone could go to school there and work there all the time and never hear of such things. Who is making the "documentary"?

[Jesda]

I've heard of it. Seen their nonsense on Youtube via Jalopnik.

[gwoods]

I would love to see them mix it up with the super fast car club that totaled the f50 Ferrari last month hope for no survivors

[AZhitman]

I'm one of those people that think that if you're driving around like an a$$ on a vehicle that is a bug on the road compared to other vehicles and you had your legs broken because of it, then you kind of deserve it.

This.

I have a pretty low tolerance for people who ride like a-holes.

Here's the deal - If you're closing on me at a 25mph differential, you can shove that "start seeing motorcycles" crap up your arse. The two occasions I've had a close call with a MC, it has been someone who was concealed behind another vehicle when I checked my mirror, then they gunned it and overtook the other vehicle and tried to squeeze into the space I was merging into.

I have a better idea: If you ride, ride like you're naked and invisible. When I drive my Roadster (or any of my Datsuns for that matter), I know I'm dead meat if someone whacks me... so, I drive with the same measure of healthy fear and defensiveness I used when I rode a motorcycle for 5-6 years.

[Bubba1]

The more information you get about this case the worse it gets for the bikers. For example, there's about an hour of footage out there on the azzhattery these bikers were doing just prior to the assault on that family. It's surprising they didn't cause 50+ accidents. From what I read, their original intention was to stop traffic on the West Side Highway ( a limited access highway within the city for those unfamiliar with New Yawk) in order to have clear pavement to do stunts with less risk of a surprise police intervention. The city had declined their request for a parade permit, so they decided to do it anyway on their terms.

[AZhitman]

Yeah, this needs to turn into a nightmare for these pinheads.

I'm not sure when the purchase of a $6000 used sportbike entitled guys to turn into petulant little thugs, but this doesn't do wonders for their reputation.

[RicerX]

He can sue his dirtbag friends that created the situation

This may be the more appropriate solution. It's not his fault he got run over, but instead his friends'.
Should his friends get in trouble? Yes, and be lucky they weren't in KS since a lot of us conceal carry.

I'm all about conceal carry and I'm pro gun, but I have seen far too many people talk about "If this was in my state, I would have started shooting."

This is a COMPLETELY STUPID RATIONALE. Start a firefight in this situation with 14+ people while having no idea how many of them are carrying themselves, legally or illegally? GTFO. Anyone who employs this logic really shouldn't be carrying a gun. You have to be smart with that responsibility and you have to understand that whipping out your pistol any time you fear for your life is not always the smartest option. One on fourteen IS NOT SMART. Running over a ton of bikers with your Range Rover was a far better idea, especially with the chance of escaping.

[gwoods]

I think I'm the only one who mentioned in my state the suv driver would be armed. I agree starting a firefight would be the last option but when you run out of road and a helmet smashes the window it's time. The driver would have been beaten to death if a unarmed guy hadn't asked the bikers to stop.

Being in NYC criminals have a reasonable expectation that you are unarmed. In AZ they have the opposite guns prevent crimes.

[alphapig]

No sympathy for anyone in this situation.

Especially not the driver.

MUH WIFE AN CHILREN is not an excuse to run people over.

Squids + Range Rover drivers = single digit driving IQ.

[Jesda]

No sympathy for anyone in this situation.

Especially not the driver.

MUH WIFE AN CHILREN is not an excuse to run people over.

Squids + Range Rover drivers = single digit driving IQ.

They were smashing his window (wife's window too wtf) and slashing his tires.

If you aren't armed then you have to leave the situation, even if it means you run over some of the gang.

[krash]

No sympathy for anyone in this situation.

Especially not the driver.

MUH WIFE AN CHILREN is not an excuse to run people over.

Squids + Range Rover drivers = single digit driving IQ.

They were smashing his window (wife's window too wtf) and slashing his <a class="vglnk" title="Link added by VigLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://motors.shop.ebay.com/eBay-Motors ... </span></a>.

If you aren't armed then you have to leave the situation, even if it means you run over some of the gang.

ummmm yea dude if someone is trying to kill my wife and kid I'm running them over.

[OriginalWheelman]

No sympathy for anyone in this situation.

Especially not the driver.

MUH WIFE AN CHILREN is not an excuse to run people over.

Squids + Range Rover drivers = single digit driving IQ.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you don't have kids.

I've looked into this a lot. I've watched all the videos. The bikers were stunting all up and down the road. According to bikers involved in the event but not the attack, they were trying to stop traffic on the road to open it up for stunting. The Range Rover driver was just trying to go down a public highway. The bikers swarm the SUV, trying to force it to stop. One of the bikers lane shares with the SUV, zips in less than 4 feet in front of the SUV, and slams it brakes. The SUV bumps the bike while stopping, as a Range Rover can't stop as fast as a bike. It still wasn't even a bump enough to knock the bike over. At this point, the biker who got bumped (the one who cut him off an brake checked him) throws his bike, starts yelling, and hits the SUV with his helmet.

So lets look at that from the SUV driver's perspective. He's driving down the road with his family, trying to get wherever he was going. A group of bikes swarm his car, forcing him to stop. An angry biker starts assaulting his truck and threatening him. He runs the guy over, the same one who brake checked him, and runs from the situation. At this point the SUV driver called the police. As he was running away, trying to flee the perceived danger from the bikers. he just ran, he never tried to run any of the other bikes off the road, never tired to hurt anyone else and called the police as he was fleeing with his family.

When the SUV was eventually caught in traffic, after trying to leave the highway, the bikers swarm the truck again, smash the windows, and drag him out of the SUV and assault him.

I'm friends with a lot of people who ride bikes. Many members of my family ride bikes. I had a bike license for a while. I understand the dangers that face bikers everyday, and the risks that they have to take sometimes. This was 100% the bikers fault. There is no doubt in my mind. That guy who got run over was the one who instigated all of this. I hope he pays for what he caused.

[alphapig]

No sympathy for anyone in this situation.

Especially not the driver.

MUH WIFE AN CHILREN is not an excuse to run people over.

Squids + Range Rover drivers = single digit driving IQ.

As he was running away, trying to flee the perceived danger from the bikers. he just ran, he never tried to run any of the other bikes off the road, never tired to hurt anyone else and called the police as he was fleeing with his family.

He is not without fault. He floored his 5,000lb vehicle directly over many people. He could have driven more slowly - the Range Rover would have parted the squids like the red sea.

He did NOT do the right thing, and will probably face large civil liability.

The squids certainly did the wrong thing, and they are facing criminal charges.

So please don't say the RR driver did the right thing and that would do it as well, because that makes you as big of a reckless a**hole as the squids.

[Bubba1]

He is not without fault. He floored his 5,000lb vehicle directly over many people. He could have driven more slowly - the Range Rover would have parted the squids like the red sea.

He did NOT do the right thing, and will probably face large civil liability.

The squids certainly did the wrong thing, and they are facing criminal charges.

So please don't say the RR driver did the right thing and that would do it as well, because that makes you as big of a reckless a**hole as the squids.

Disagree. If you found yourself in the same situation as the RR driver, unarmed with your family, surrounded by hostile bikers actively trying to break into your car to assault you, you'd try to flee the scene fast too. There is ample video evidence to support that the RR driver justifiably felt his (and his familys') lives were in danger, which is why the RR driver never got charged, and likely will not ever get charged. I'm confident the unlicensed/uninsured rider that got run over will try to sue the RR driver in civil court, but I highly doubt any jury will award him anything.

[dre1507]

Alphapig. So you're telling me that the range rover driver should feel sorry for running over idiot bikers that tried to harm him and his family? All because he wouldn't slow down to allow them to perform stunts in their unauthorized parade? As much as I have developed disdain for Range Rover drivers (they have a knack for not tipping), this one did do the right thing in trying to get his family away from the situation.