So!!! Just got the Bully Dog Power Pup

[michaelthepsycho]

Got tired of waiting for the Triple Dog GT since I'm heading overseas in a bit. I still might buy it when it comes out though!

I've got all the parameters maxed out:

Premium fuel tune.Speed limiter 180 mph.Rev limiter 6800 rpm.Ignition timing +2 degrees.Target idle +250 rpm.

So far, I have yet to use up all the 87 gasoline sitting in my tank so will post actual reviews after my next fill-up BUT at the moment:

Rev limiter to 6800 I can't tell if it's working because unlike the stock limiter, when break through 6100, the engine gives me a shudder and I'm forced back to idle rpm... Along with a second or two of rough idle / vibrations.

Target idle doesn't seem to show on my tachometer... Still idling at sub-1k.

I know D-Roll has this and that I have yet to pump some premium but if anyone else has this please provide some input I have, however, found that after resetting my ecu and installing this, I can hit, 70-ish at sub-1500 rpm. Was doing some test driving around Brea canyon and I don't have to rev so much. Perhaps just the "shifting" happening earlier? I don't know but overall... No actual negative thoughts about this mod Opinionate!

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[dangeris]

Great! let us know how this out for you. BTW,..I sent you an email.

[michaelthepsycho]

Woops! I'm a retard... I thought -2 was advancing timing ROFL!!! I'm stupid . Will correct this tommorow morning .

[dangeris]

No need, I corrected it for you. I thought that seemed a little odd when I read it at first. A lot of people were advancing timing and you posted a negative. it happens

[michaelthepsycho]

I meant on the car

[dldjros69]

I meant on the car

So you retarded the timing. Haha so that is bad for performance.

Let us know when you get it right, if you feel a drastic improvement

[jungleboogie]

Woops! I'm a retard... I thought -2 was advancing timing ROFL!!! I'm stupid . Will correct this tommorow morning .

haha oops! keep us updated and good luck

[Nlghtmare]

Is this considered "chipped?" I ask that because I see that you have a speed limiter of 180.

[Ferguson]

Rev limiter to 6800 I can't tell if it's working because unlike the stock limiter, when break through 6100, the engine gives me a shudder and I'm forced back to idle rpm... Along with a second or two of rough idle / vibrations.

Target idle doesn't seem to show on my tachometer... Still idling at sub-1k.

That doesn't exactly make me want to run out and buy it.

[dangeris]

but remember Fergy, he's running it on a 2.5, not a 3.5. I suspecting a big difference in performance as well as reaction.

[Ferguson]

I realize that Darryl but it seems that two of the parameters don't work correctly for him? Upping the RPM limit caused a side-effect and the idle-RPM parameter didn't change anything? Has anyone used the 3.5 version with success?

[dldjros69]

I realize that Darryl but it seems that two of the parameters don't work correctly for him? Upping the RPM limit caused a side-effect and the idle-RPM parameter didn't change anything? Has anyone used the 3.5 version with success?

i agree, what the heck is going on here

Could the timing be causing an issue?

[JDRosenberg07]

i think 6800 rpm on a 2.5 is a little too high. the 2.5s have weak valve springs which is why the rpm limit is set to 6100. i wouldnt really go about 6500 but even that may be pushing it. just my .02

[dldjros69]

I wonder if that is the full story.

Maybe they did it to limit hp, im sure a few extra rpms arent gonna kill it.

[michaelthepsycho]

So, I just got the timing right and it was definitely a LOT better (can actually hear a change in engine pitch / tone) than when I retarded it. Still can't say about the "premium" feel because I'm trying to burn my 87 tank with random driving. Quarter of the tank left to go!

[marvin5087]

i just got the update for mine today ..installed it in my 6speed v6 ...2nd gear i could be crussing and stomp on the gas and boy it moves(will burn wheel at the punch)...ive raised everything on it and have maxed it out however it seems as if i could only get it to go to 6900-7000 rpm when im actually driving so i cant get it to 7100 as it states..i def. do feel the difference through out the mid and higher rpm's especially cruising back home from 95s when i pulled on the srt8 dodge charger going about 130..hahaha...i let off at 135 when i had a car on him..

[crayzitalian3]

just from reading this, i now have less patience for the GT to arrive at my door step lol. damn im so glad im reading positive reviews. post up some runs sound clips of the raised RPMS, whatever... let us know everything you guys like and don't like about it

[dldjros69]

Rev limiter to 6800 I can't tell if it's working because unlike the stock limiter, when break through 6100, the engine gives me a shudder and I'm forced back to idle rpm... Along with a second or two of rough idle / vibrations.

@ marvin - When you broke into the higher rpm range, did the above happen to you or was it a smooth transition?

@ michael - Was the above issue fixed with the advancing of the timing? or was it still present?

tia

[JDRosenberg07]

I wonder if that is the full story.Maybe they did it to limit hp, im sure a few extra rpms arent gonna kill it.

http://www.modified.com/tech/0....html

Read this article i found a while back about the QR25. It has a LOT of great technical info and talks about the weak valve springs. an also talks about how you can release between 10-20 hp from the exhaust alone.

It is the light valve springs, not the long stroke, that are responsible for the low, 6100 rpm redline. (By the time the engine reaches production, the redline may be raised to 6500 rpm, and could be as high as 7000 rpm if Inamijima gets his way.)

So it is possible to raise it to 7000 or so, i would just be careful when you push the limits tho.

If you get a chance read the full article, it has tons of great info

[dldjros69]

Ive read that several times, but others may not have.

Why did Inamijima not get his way? (6500 seems safe imo)

Why did they choose to put such crappy springs on the car?

Are there replacement springs? Possible in the sentra or from jwt?

[JDRosenberg07]

Ive read that several times, but others may not have.

Why did Inamijima not get his way? (6500 seems safe imo)

Why did they choose to put such crappy springs on the car?

Are there replacement springs? Possible in the sentra or from jwt?

Im guessing it has something to do with prolonging the lifespan of the engine because it doesnt push it as hard. As far as the weak springs go, im sure just because its cheaper and due to the fact that its not a high performance engine.

I think Jim Wolfe has some for the QR and i would assume they are upgraded but im not for sure.

[losenone]

Has anyone in the NY area picked one of these up yet?

The results sound promising.

[michaelthepsycho]

I think Jim Wolfe has some for the QR and i would assume they are upgraded but im not for sure.

Yeah Jim Wolf Technology has some valve springs... Pretty cheap too.

After I put premium, my mpg (just off the screen steadily increased about 1. That's a lot for the on-board. I seem to never leave 2k rpm now. Of course, I took it for some weaving in and out of the traffic on the highway to San Gabriel and me likey! The only thing stopping me was random people out to lunch at around noon. I feel like my car is pumped back again. With intake, exhaust and this tune, I'm pretty much done with the car now... No more buying stuff. The engine's noise also changed after the timing advance and then AGAIN after the premium. Just a slight, slight bit but definitely noticeable.

My overall comment would be:If you got the cash lying around, try this thing out. Or, if you're not leaving the country like me, wait for the triple dog GT.

[crayzitalian3]

Yeah Jim Wolf Technology has some valve springs... Pretty cheap too.

After I put premium, my mpg (just off the screen steadily increased about 1. That's a lot for the on-board. I seem to never leave 2k rpm now. Of course, I took it for some weaving in and out of the traffic on the highway to San Gabriel and me likey! The only thing stopping me was random people out to lunch at around noon. I feel like my car is pumped back again. With intake, exhaust and this tune, I'm pretty much done with the car now... No more buying stuff. The engine's noise also changed after the timing advance and then AGAIN after the premium. Just a slight, slight bit but definitely noticeable.

My overall comment would be:If you got the cash lying around, try this thing out. Or, if you're not leaving the country like me, wait for the triple dog GT.

how did the sounds vary from stock?

[michaelthepsycho]

More pronounced and deeper engine rumbling but only at idle and neutral... Not when driving 'cause it's drowned out by the exhaust and intake

[crayzitalian3]

i like the sound of that

now when you mentioned that jim wolfe had parts for our cars, i went to go check it out and they only mention altima and not the years, if i were to upgrade the ones you have mentioned, which ones would i choose for the 2.5 liter?

[michaelthepsycho]

Choose engine: QR25DE. And if you were really to go through with it I'd also call them to make sure their items are up-to-date with the new QR25DE. If i recall correctly, our engines went through a revision a few years back. They're specialized in Nissan, so I'm sure they know better than me about it.

[crayzitalian3]

thanks, im probably not going to go through wih it because next june is my last year with the car so im trying to save the money i could mod with and put it to my next car (cough Z cough) hopefully i can find a nice used one with low miles or get an awesome deal on a base one

i know some people upgraded their internals when they got their turbo's put in, but that is for the 3.5, what exactly did they get, a whole makeover of internal parts or just some minor parts and kept others stock? (hope that makes sense)

[Hussain]

My overall comment would be:If you got the cash lying around, try this thing out. Or, if you're not leaving the country like me, wait for the triple dog GT.

whats the difference between the power pup and triple dog GT?

i know some people upgraded their internals when they got their turbo's put in, but that is for the 3.5, what exactly did they get, a whole makeover of internal parts or just some minor parts and kept others stock? (hope that makes sense)

i never heard of anyone upgrading the internals on the 3.5se altima coupe

[crayzitalian3]

whats the difference between the power pup and triple dog GT?

i never heard of anyone upgrading the internals on the 3.5se altima coupe

im sorry, i didn't hear it, i assumed because i figured that if someone with a cvt upgraded to a turbo that they would of had to upgrade the internals int he car because of the amount of power the turbo would put down and the amount of heat that would build up in the engine because of how hard the engine would have to work

sorry again for the confusion hussain