So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

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So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby DeanM45 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:06 pm

So since I had the interior apart changing the trim color I decided to take a look at some things....
Looking at the wiring diagrams it became immediately evident that this is not a hard thing to incorporate with a few changes/additions.

I wired up a circuit and had two momentary switches mounted on a plate to test everything out.

Put the shifter in D and the car drives as normal.
push both switches and it goes into manual mode (with the shifter still in the D position)
push both switches again and it goes back to auto drive

when in manual mode, either by pushing the shifter to the left or pushing both switches up and down both buttons work as they should.

The shifter can also be used in manual mode (like stock)

So, now that the circuit is done (there are a few articles on the web about how to integrate the paddle shifters using two SPDT relays). My circuit, to incorporate the both paddle switch to manual consists of 2 additional SPDT relays (4 total) and a simple CMOS flip/flop circuit.

Started working on mounting the paddles today (got them yesterday). Again, lots of articles on the web on how to do this. You have to trim the switches and the column mount. Not difficult though, just take your time so you don't have an "oops".

Still need to cut the steering trim piece and relocate the wheel tilt/telescope switch, permanently mount the switches and then bolt everything back together.

I'll post up final pictures when done, probably tail end of next week--shutting down for Christmas!

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby jmichael97 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:45 am

cool dude. keep us updated!

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby jpkas88 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:14 am

Looking forward to see how it turns out!

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby mexillis » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:28 pm

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something to look forward to... :bigthumb:

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby DeanM45 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:03 pm

mexillis wrote:Image

something to look forward to... :bigthumb:
Which set up is that and what did it run you?
Does it switch to Manual when both are held down?

If it is not too expensive (I'm into mine for $200 in parts with the Infiniti paddles) and handles the shift to manual mode I may have shot myself in the foot!

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby 06M4.5 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:10 pm

That's a right hand drive car.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby DeanM45 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:32 pm

06M4.5 wrote:That's a right hand drive car.
Understood but I think it should still be applicable to left hand drive.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby 06M4.5 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:07 pm

Looking at this pic it show the paddle's to be very low. They should be higher, high enough to pass the top spoke on the steering wheel. :gotme

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby DeanM45 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:50 pm

06M4.5 wrote:Looking at this pic it show the paddle's to be very low. They should be higher, high enough to pass the top spoke on the steering wheel. :gotme

Good point, did not pay attention to it before.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby mexillis » Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:16 pm

It's somebody's M in Japan so I couldn't tell you how much it costs. I've only seen it done over there so far and was hoping to find some info on it but this guy only posted a picture if it installed. As for the paddle it's probly just a non g paddle which why it looks low. The shape and design doesn't look like the one from the op. there was one in Japan that has the g 37 paddles but I couldn't find it this time around.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby rxmclaren7 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:45 pm

so i am a little confused....are these meant to be functional?? or just for looks?? if they are meant to be functional id be very interested in them!!

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby DeanM45 » Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:14 am

Mine will be/are functional. Just making them "pretty" right now.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby Ilya » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:47 am

rxmclaren7 wrote:so i am a little confused....are these meant to be functional?? or just for looks?? if they are meant to be functional id be very interested in them!!
Well, if you ask Jeremy Clarkson, they are useless. He hates 'flappy paddle gearboxes' :rotflmao

Any Top Gear fanatics in here?

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby rxmclaren7 » Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:27 am

huge Top Gear fan here!! cant wait for the new season....when ever that come to the us! back on topic @Dean cool! i would try this but i am afraid of messing something up!! :ohno:

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby DeanM45 » Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:29 pm

rxmclaren7 wrote:huge Top Gear fan here!! cant wait for the new season....when ever that come to the us! back on topic @Dean cool! i would try this but i am afraid of messing something up!! :ohno:

What could possibly go wrong?

HUGE Top Gear fan and BTW:

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby TDot » Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:43 pm

Wow, all the stuff your doing, you're really looking to overhaul and redo the car. Should be interesting to see once you're done all of your projects.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby Arlo » Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:44 pm

i am also very curious. keep up the good work

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby jmichael97 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:38 am

"stuuuupid stuuuuupid imbecile of car! with your stupid flappy paddle gearbox" JC KILLS me with that LMAO but i think this is cool as hell.... i wanna do it to my M if yours turns out right.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby DeanM45 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:15 pm

Some progress today:

Paddles and wheel installed. The used paddles I got were not in the greatest shape so I went ahead and mode some modifications. Added lighting to the + and - indicators and went with a satin black paint. The aluminum (stock) yelled a kind of "LOOK AT ME" when I first mounted them and I wanted to subdue that:

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Must have turned the wheel slightly before taking the pictures but the paddles ARE even: In Auto mode (white lighting):
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In Manual mode (red lighting):
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Hard to pick up the lighting in the pictures and the "-" does not look like it is on but it is.

Not super bright on the lighting but enough for the driver to see, even in daylight.


The steering surround bezel is another BIG project. Not much the stock bezel can be used because of how the switches stick out (stock bezel hugs the steering pretty tight. I'll figure out something in the future.

Also, going to go with some SMD (much smaller) relays as right now the interface is HUGE. Have it mounted under the steering wheel but there is a nice little pocket next to the shifter where a smaller circuit will fit and make for easier access.

Yeah, I know I need a new airbag. I think the previous owner slammed the horn or something and cracked the cover on the airbag. Flash highlights it but in daily driving I have either gotten used to it or it is not as noticeable.

Marching on -- getting there.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby Ilya » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:26 pm

Okay, now that you redid the handles, this is lookin fancy.

And nice to see a bunch of TG fans up in hur. Hahah.

New season starts next month with the delayed Christmas Special. Regular season starts in Feb I think. Go to www.finalgear.com to follow all the news for the show (both UK, US, and other TG spinoffs).

Sorry for going off topic man. Keep posting the updates...this is interesting.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby agee » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:29 pm

That's very nice! Amazing work.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby PlatinumM35 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:54 pm

Nice work. I'm surprised how well it came out.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby cruzad3r » Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:08 am

awesome!!!! great work man. so when are we going to see the DIY tutorial? or are you going to turn this into a kit?

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby DeanM45 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:40 am

cruzad3r wrote:awesome!!!! great work man. so when are we going to see the DIY tutorial? or are you going to turn this into a kit?
I have no desire to do a kit it is faaaar too much work (about 16 man hours so far) for there to be a chance of any profit (without labor the parts cost alone is around $320 with new paddles from Infiniti). Plus, you really need the car when doing the mod as the paddle placement is extremely important. Once I finalize the circuit I'll probably post it up and may offer that as a kit so it would be plug and play if you have the paddles.It's taken me about twice as long to add the paddles as it did to do the Transgo shift kit.

There are lots of tutorials on the web and in one of the other Infiniti forums on how to mount the paddles on the FX. The Ms are not that much different, trim the paddles, trim the steering mount, epoxy or plastic weld the paddles in place and then the wiring. I tap into the connector that is just behind the shifter, tap two wires (up shift, down shift request) and cut two wires (manual request and auto request). Adding the interface to the car is easy (6 solder connections). The mounting of the paddles and the circuit development took the most time.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby EmDash » Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:23 pm

I'm so incredibly impressed. Looking good Dean!

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby ctsedan » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:58 am

Great job, I like the look and the extra work with LEDs is impressive. I was planning to do the same thing and purchased all the parts needed but never attempted the work.

Sorry to jack your tread....
FYI--> Anyone want the parts to do this project can contact me to purchase them. I have the paddle shifters, epoxy, relays, and spare steering wheel plastic(not trim) to mount the paddles to. Sell it as a set, this is following the FX DIY that I never got around to doing. Thanx

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby DeanM45 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:23 pm

Since I am waiting for the SMD relays I did a bit more work on the paddles. Cleaned up the opening for the indicators. Sorry for the pics being blurry but the only way to keep the flash from washing it out. The indicators are about as bright as the instrument panel. Can see them during the day but not too bright at night.

Auto:
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Manual:
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So far, no issues with anything!

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby ctsedan » Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:32 am

Dean, can u post up side pictures of the trim plastic? N how u did the tilt steering button? Thanx

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby DeanM45 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:00 am

ctsedan wrote:Dean, can u post up side pictures of the trim plastic? N how u did the tilt steering button? Thanx
Trim is not done yet--still trimming, plastic welding, sanding. The tilt/telescope button is now on the bottom of the panel but I am going to see if I can move it elsewhere. It works fine but I have to wait for the steering wheel to move up when I get out or sometimes my leg bumps the switch. When I do bump the switch the auto return does not work the next time I get in so I have to hit the seat memory button. Not a problem but an annoyance.

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Re: So it begins--06 M45 with Paddle Shifters

Postby DeanM45 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:19 pm

A few updates:
Still working on the trim but after messing around with it I was able to put the tilt button back on the left side--just farther forward. Works fine and cut put the wheel all the way up/down/in/out with no interference. Right side is almost done--built a "bubble" to house the switch and it worked out well (heat some plastic and stretch it out). Tedious but it gives better contours. Will work on the left side later. Ultimately when the initial trim is done I will sand down and resin dip, texturize and ultimately paint. Funny thing is I don't much mind how it looks---been having so much fun driving with the paddles. I did this mod just "to do it" and did not think I would really use them that much. Now, as soon as in drive, click both paddles and let the fun begin! LOL.

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