so im doing my build!

[fastass]

well the time has come. i am getting ready to deploy and i decided the money i make over there will be good enough for what i want to do. This all started when i started doing all my cosmetics. i did wheels paint aero so on and so forth. about lets say a month ago. I got this horrible rod knock from what i have no clue, so i decided this is my time to clean out the engine bay and of course do the build.
1. this is a n/a build there is nothing like instant power.
2. im going with the bc stroker kit
3. stage 3 cams and valvetrain trough bc.
4. itb setup that i built myself. (pictures to come) and lots and lots more haha
i know you cant get to much from a n/a ka but i have seen 240 my goal is at least 310hp.



, rally pig on my buddies head. haha

[badbob2121]

but why??
the money you spend to get your n/a ka to 310whp could get you so much more....
so i take it this build wont acutally begin for about 7-9 months?

[barefoot mat]

i know you cant get to much from a n/a ka but i have seen 240 my goal is at least 310hp.

[fastass]

no my father will be taking over, seeing that he owns a shop and knows many more people than i do. the main reason is i plan to go boost later. see with the way the bc kit works is that its already forged internals. so in that case once i get back i will save more money and get the turbo kit i want. my biggest thing is that if im going to drop this much money it why cheap out and get a turbo kit thats hagard and will end up screwing me in the end. money does'nt come easy these day lol. so i dont want to flush money down the drain. if i do everything right the first time i wont have too many problems down the road. kinda get what im getting at?

[badbob2121]

no my father will be taking over, seeing that he owns a shop and knows many more people than i do. the main reason is i plan to go boost later. see with the way the bc kit works is that its already forged internals. so in that case once i get back i will save more money and get the turbo kit i want. my biggest thing is that if im going to drop this much money it why cheap out and get a turbo kit thats hagard and will end up screwing me in the end. money does'nt come easy these day lol. so i dont want to flush money down the drain. if i do everything right the first time i wont have too many problems down the road. kinda get what im getting at?

so are you saying you wouldnt do the rebuild if you went ka-t instead??? why not both at once

[fastass]

i wont have the money in the end so i would rather have a bad a** motor rather than a half built motor and a bad a** turbo kit. I have seen what half assing it does to people. but dont get me wrong if i had the funds i would do it.

[kouki munster]

No, I really don't understand what you're trying to do. If you want 300hp out of a 4cyl, just slap a moderately sized turbo and the fuel to support. The bottom end in stock form is strong enough to support it, just don't be stupid and get it tuned properly.

[Hoffman5982]

More pics of the car please

[fastass]

i understand that. but in the end after my last deployment in 2013 i plan on having a 700 hp ka. Its just the intetions i have. i have a well rounded car thats ready for power. i will probably have close to 12k to spend after deployment. so after machine work parts and extra cash to have for my 350z i wont have the money for the turbonetics i want.

[kouki munster]

Also, if you are trying to get 300hp out of it without boost, that will give you more issues, as you won't get a whole lot of power out of it with a boost friendly 9:1 compression ratio and no turbo.

[fastass]

agreed but you can "virtually" get any compression ratio you want with the kit.

[kouki munster]

So you are going to run a 10:1 or higher compression for n/a (will have to be north of 11:1 to even get past 250 I'll bet) then boost it and shoot for 700hp? Pick one and stay with it, high compression with a turbo is great because it will be much more responsive off boost and make more power in boost but, tuning is critical as it won't take but one little hiccup to grenade and turn the motor into scrap.

[badbob2121]

i plan on having a 700 hp ka.

[Steady_One_S13]

well the time has come. i am getting ready to deploy

Sweet! Be safe out there on deployment.
700hp will be sick.

[fastass]

So you are going to run a 10:1 or higher compression for n/a (will have to be north of 11:1 to even get past 250 I'll bet) then boost it and shoot for 700hp? Pick one and stay with it, high compression with a turbo is great because it will be much more responsive off boost and make more power in boost but, tuning is critical as it won't take but one little hiccup to grenade and turn the motor into scrap.

you are right thats why i said i dont want to cut any corners with my turbo kit.

[CJH]

Do it! It will be sick. I fully sapport it!

[fastass]

Do it! It will be sick. I fully sapport it!

thanks man. i love support haha. when im done it will be one hell of a ride.

[fastass]

so i was going to start cleaning my engine bay today but i left my garage clicker in my buddies car. so i did what i could i went and bought this stuff thats a foam and breaks up all the gunk and grime (actually works really well) i test fit my nrg seat as well.

[fastass]

oh and more pics to come.

[fastass]

small update i fixed the wire tuck today. wasnt hard at all thank god my buddy had his harness off for me to go off of. that would have been a nightmare if not. "suggestion make sure you buy enough butt connectors and shrink wrap before you start" if not you get side tracked by 2 240s sitting on the side of the road, and you bring one home.

[fastass]

got some of my parts in today. cometic hg, brand new seals and gaskets kit, and all new h/w for the engine.

[some_white_guy]

i like this. I always thought n/a was under rated so i'd like to see what power you can get out of a ka with what parts.

in it for the pics

[youngmoney]

310 hp for a na ka is a pretty tall order. just because its na doesnt mean its more reliable. i would say go the turbo route if you're looking for 300+ hp out of a ka. especially if you're looking for reliability. i realize you're wanting "instant power", have you considered supercharging it? anyway what ever you decide on i wish you the best of luck!!

[fastass]

310 hp for a na ka is a pretty tall order. just because its na doesnt mean its more reliable. i would say go the turbo route if you're looking for 300+ hp out of a ka. especially if you're looking for reliability. i realize you're wanting "instant power", have you considered supercharging it? anyway what ever you decide on i wish you the best of luck!!

in my opinion i like to see the unseen. i like to venture out and see how things work and how different things will affect another thing. thats why i am a helicopter mechanic. "i still dont understand how the chinook flies," and i work on it everyday lol. but considiring the answers i have gotten it in some ways makes me want to go boost a small bit. but i will see how things go once i get into buying all my major build parts.

[kouki munster]

So you are going to run a 10:1 or higher compression for n/a (will have to be north of 11:1 to even get past 250 I'll bet) then boost it and shoot for 700hp? Pick one and stay with it, high compression with a turbo is great because it will be much more responsive off boost and make more power in boost but, tuning is critical as it won't take but one little hiccup to grenade and turn the motor into scrap.

you are right thats why i said i dont want to cut any corners with my turbo kit.

Don't worry to much about cutting corners on the non-critical parts like the inter cooler, inter cooler pipes, and various non critical exhaust components, but not the turbo manifold and most certainly not the turbo . The place to not cut any corners is the tuning, a full stand alone and a competent tuner is an absolute must. Especially since it will take a ridiculously high compression ratio just to make anywhere close to the power you want to n/a, and you're planing to boost it later on down the road.

[Morph]

OP, im a little confused. You are going to rebuild the engine with a BC stroker kit and then get deployed for a bit then turbo it??? Sounds like a waste of $$. If your going to be deployed and not enjoy the engine much why not just rebuild it to turbo and make the power you want. 700 is a tad much and you would probally be more than happy with 300 or less. Have you been in a 700 HP KA??? I think you need to rethink what you want. Rebuilding and stroking just to turbo late is a bit overkill IMHO. Rebuilding and putting a good turbo on should do you fine.

[fastass]

morph, i see what your saying, but i have been in a car with well over 700hp. my plan is when i get out in 2016 i plan on opening a shop with a very close friend of mine. actually the guy above with the rally pig on his head. this car by no means will be a street car. it will be a weekend/track car. and back to why i want 700hp. i want to build it so that way i have a nice CLEAN car to display at the shop to show we can do the work, and also get my fathers machine work out there. he is only known in the "muscle world", and i think if he could get some import work in there he would make a lot more. all our machine work will be trough him of course. my buddies father already has the shop that he runs a towing company out of so that answers why dont you save you the money for the shop. like my dad always told me money well spent will make you money well made.

[Morph]

True bud but we are taking 240's here. Money put in doesnt mean money earned. I havent priced a ka stroker kit but im guessing its around the 2k price range for parts. And a decent turbo kit is going to run you 1500-2k+, again I have an SR so not to up to date on prices. If you want a trailer queen why not just build the shi*t out of it for a large turbo and call it a day and save your self some cash? Not questoning your build, lol guess i am, just trying to help the planning process.

[fastass]

i understand what your saying 100 percent. but like i said i could just mildly build it throw it on a dyno get it tuned and have a decent powered car. but i want to go above and beyond. if i break my budget i will just have to wait. i want a car thats gawked at and envied.

[Morph]

i understand what your saying 100 percent. but like i said i could just mildly build it throw it on a dyno get it tuned and have a decent powered car. but i want to go above and beyond. if i break my budget i will just have to wait. i want a car thats gawked at and envied.

If thats all you want get a clean factory aero kit and tuck some 12" Works....LOL i got ya bud but just look at your end goal and make sure that they dont conflict.

Your car looks clean just dont bite off more than you can chew. TRUST ME its not very tastey at the end. Im about to rip my SR out and redo everything b/c my dreams were bigger than my budget ATM, now i have the funds and i need to put it up to make the fixes.