so i've been thinking...(v8 stuff in here)

[qwarnon]

well.. my plans were.. to swap a 350 small block into the coupe. but.. my boss (and good family friend) just told me that he has a 327 from an old vette in his garage (not fully rebuilt) that he'll let me have. im thinking this might be a nice engine for the 240. but... what about fitment? anyone tried this engine before? extrenally i think they are very similar to all other small blocks (especially 350s) i knowthe heads and crank are different (hence the 327 instead of 350) considering the price of this engine (free) its hard to pass up. what do you guys think?

[Joe]

if all you want to do is go straight and fail emissions miserably, a carb'd 327 would be fun.

[WDRacing]

The handling won't be that bad and can be fixed with suspension. They have old F bodies carving corners now for fvcks sake...lol. But it will definitly need to be addressed if you wanna go fast other then in a straight line.

The emissions is WAY easy to pass btw, unless you'll fail the underhood due to the V8 swap that is. Just run denatured alcohol...done. I'll expalin more in depth if you need me to.

WD

[qwarnon]

i dont have emissions in my county. and also i believe WD is correct. i plan to build the suspension (coilovers, replace all bushings, new adjustable control arms the works) and tune it to match the newly added weight. i plan to run a stiff rate up front (10-12kg and a more common 7-8kg in the back) i also plan to relocate the battery to the trunk and i have already stripped most of the a/c and heating parts. so some of the extra weight will be placed in other areas or removed. granted it will still weigh more than a KA

i also plan to have 300zx brakes up front as well as upgraded rotors and pads in the rear.

only thing im worried about is getting that oil pan to clear the crossmember. i dont know if its in the exact same place as the 350 or not... ill probably get a custom pan made or possibly use a dry sump (maybe both)

[WDRacing]

Sounds like a great plan IMO. If I didn't already have bigger and better plans involving my S14, I'd have dropped a carbed 350 in mine forever ago. You'll also have access to way cheaper nitrous kits.

[Initial_R90]

the 327 from a corvette is a Great engine it has the same things as a 350 only diff. is the crankshaft is a 283 crank in a 350 block that makes a 327 there high revings 6k+ lowest HP you could get from a corvette block was 250 and highest in stock form was 365 they were produced from 1962-1968 in the corvette , my dad has some spare parts for that if your looking for some stuff , growing up around Small block chevys and corvettes did pay off thanks Dad lol

also if you give me the VIN (its near the waterpump ) i can tell you when it was made what car it was in and how much power it produced in stock form

GL

[WDRacing]

the 327 from a corvette is a Great engine it has the same things as a 350 only diff. is the crankshaft is a 283 crank in a 350 block that makes a 327 there high revings 6k+ lowest HP you could get from a corvette block was 250 and highest in stock form was 365 they were produced from 1962-1968 in the corvette , my dad has some spare parts for that if your looking for some stuff , growing up around Small block chevys and corvettes did pay off thanks Dad lol

also if you give me the VIN (its near the waterpump ) i can tell you when it was made what car it was in and how much power it produced in stock form

GL

Great post but I had a seizure trying to read it...lol.

[Initial_R90]

sorry at work no time for pause's =p. Also another tip get the 327 grab a 283 crank makes the stoke smaller therefor you make a 302 the True 5.0 not that mustang crap. The chevy 302 makes 290 hp and 320tq rated but really makes 340hp and rev's to 7k+ stock. It was out of this puppy 1967 camaro

BTW i love this car

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...amaro

[Initial_R90]

also found these on there

327The 327 in³ (5.4 L) V8, introduced in 1962, had a bore and stroke of 4 in (102 mm) by 3.25 in. Power ranged from 250 hp (186 kW) to 375 hp (186 kW to 280 kW) depending on the choice of carburetor or fuel injection, camshaft, cylinder heads and intake manifold. In 1962, the Duntov solid lifter cam versions produced 340 hp (254 kW), 344 ft·lbf (466 N·m) with single Carter 4-brl, and 360 hp (268 kW), 352 ft·lbf (477 N·m) with Rochester mechanical fuel injection. In 1964, horsepower increased to 365 for the now dubbed L76 version, and 375 for the fuel injected L84 respectively, making the L84 the most powerful naturally aspirated, single-cam, production small block V8 until the appearance of the 385 hp (287 kW), 385 ft·lbf (522 N·m) Generation III LS6 in 2001. * L76, L84 1963-1965; Chevrolet Corvette. This block is one of three displacements that underwent a major change in 1968/1969 when the main bearing size was increased from 2.30 in to 2.45 in.

302Chevrolet produced a special 302 in³ (4.9 L) engine for Trans Am racing from 1967-1969. It was the product of placing the 3-inch stroke crankshaft from a 283 into a 4-inch bore 327 block. This engine was only used in the first-generation Camaro Z28. Conservatively rated at 290 hp (216 kW), actual output was around 360 hp (268 kW). This block is one of 3 displacements that underwent a transformation for the 1968/1969 period when the main bearing size was increased from 2.30 in to 2.45 in.

[qwarnon]

thanks alot man. lots of help seriously. yeh small block chevys are popular around here .... 350's mostly. i have some good family friends and family members that know alot about them too. keep the info coming guys. now i just need to find a good fabricator.

i like that 283 crank idea too by the way. high revving high hp motor... just what im looking for.. plus.. who expects a 327 under the hood of a 240?

btw guys. not blaming anyone for this just i know it will come up again. im just looking for some info help and ideas on this. please dont post something like "d00d ur handling is gonna suck u wont be able to pull mad doriftos" (i know this is nico... and so far i have found that most of you guys are a lil more mature than other forums i have been too) if u have a solution or idea on how i should correct the handling issue. i apprieciate any help

thanks alot guys

[Initial_R90]

sit the motor as far back in the engine bay as you can , cut weight on the engine alum heads and intake mani, headers insted of heavy *** iron manifolds. Another thing you didnt even put into your thoughts transmission. the stock 4spd's in the corvette wont hold heavy abuse from clutch kicks and dumping you'll be buying a clutch every weekend. Chevy didnt make a 5spd till the 80's so dunno maybe you can find a T-56 LS1 transmission adaptor kit or somthing otherwise gonna have to use a Turbo 400 auto tran's that thing is the best auto transmission known to man can take like 1000hp Np bulletproof

GL anyother questons LMK

[WDRacing]

This may be a bit more then you're looking to do, but if handeling was on my agenda, I'd go with airbags.

[Initial_R90]

swift springs FTW

[qwarnon]

true.. i would need some type of transmission adaptor. and yeh i know about 350 and 400 turbos.. those are rock solid.. but id really rather have a 5-spd... which i didnt think about.. with a 350 i could use a modified t-5 transmission... but with this 327 id have to find something else....

[Z28ricer]

Dont know how you could use a "modified" T5 with a 350 and not with a 327, sbc's from 65-99 (excluding LT1/LT4) are pretty well the same with the exception of different bores, strokes, and bearing sizes, then the addition of the 1 piece main seal in 1986.

LT1/LT4 are still pretty much the same engine, its just been changed around a bit to improve things, the transmission from any sbc that isnt a gen 3 + will bolt to any other sbc, and a bbc for that matter, it all comes down to getting the correct flywheel.

Using a 2 piece main seal block and crank would require you to get an aftermarket flywheel if using an LT1 T56, you can also change the input shaft, front plate, and bellhousing on an LS1 T56 and use it the same.

However destroking a 350 to 327 or 302 ci isnt going to gain you anything other than less power for the same parts, sure it worked for some stuff back in the day when they didnt have half the technology and parts we have today.

Though if you are dead set on small displacement and dont want to spend a lot of money, get an L99 4.3 crank from a caprice at a junkyard, the L99 is a mini version of the LT1, the crank is the same 3" stroke as an older 302, however you can use it in any current 350 block that has a 1 piece main seal, allowing you to use an off the shelf 93-97 T56, you will also need the rods from the 4.3 as they make up the difference for the stroke of the crank allowing you to use standard 350 pistons.

true.. i would need some type of transmission adaptor. and yeh i know about 350 and 400 turbos.. those are rock solid.. but id really rather have a 5-spd... which i didnt think about.. with a 350 i could use a modified t-5 transmission... but with this 327 id have to find something else....

[qwarnon]

i wouldnt be destroking a 350. its a 327 motor already. not a destroked 350. and i dont know on the transmission. i guess i could use a t-5 with the 327? (anyone know)? by the way... by modified t-5 i meant a built t-5. stronger gears/ different gearing and other internal parts

[qwarnon]

anyone else have any transmission info? or mount info? im sure the mounts would be custom.. but would it mount exactly as a 350?

[Z28ricer]

I just gave you all the trans info you could really need, you really need to use a T56, i've given you the ways to get it bolted up, a sbc is an sbc, they bolt up the same excep an LT1 has extra mounting points cast in. Using a T5 would be a bad idea, the shifter would literally be inside the dash under your radio.

anyone else have any transmission info? or mount info? im sure the mounts would be custom.. but would it mount exactly as a 350?

[Davidss]

Using a T5 would be a bad idea, the shifter would literally be inside the dash under your radio.

Which T5 are you talking about? Mustang/Camaro? The T5 (as I understand it) has 2 places for a shifter depending on application.

[qwarnon]

camaro. also i have the 327 now. ill get some numbers from it and post em so you guys can give me more info