So I'm trying to get a skyline... a couple of questions...

[GTGSXR]

Well I have read over a WEALTH of information in the past couple months while waiting for my skyline from takara motors that never came. But reguardless I had a couple questions. My questions don't neccesarily hinge on getting the skyline into the US and much as registering it and insuring it here.

1) If I get a Skyline from Canada (with a Canadian title) shouldn't it be rather easy to title it in a state (such as my home state SC) that has no emissions or visual inspections of any sort? I mean as far as they are concerned is just like titling any other car from Canada I would think.

2) Insuring it is another issue. I read that state farm requires DOT papers and EPA papers for insuring it? Are there any insurance companies that don't charge an arm and a leg that don't require these papers?

I completely understand that the car will not technically be street legal. But that doesn't really concern me because most of the cars I have driven weren't technically considered street legal due to modifcations etc. So i do understand that the car will not be street legal, but as long as I get a title, tag, and insurance I will be happy. Thanks guys for any input.

[slowlyevolving]

From what I have read and heard, the only way your gonna get the car from canada is if you bring it in as "parts" (which I am sure you already knew). Most people figure since you can just drive across the border, it would be easy to import a skyline and that's not the case.

I haven't heard of ANY insurance company that doesn't require those papers. If you bring it in as "parts" and assemble it, it will be a "kit car" and then you will go get it titled as such. I'm from MD and here if you try the "kit car" scenario, the state police have to inspect the car and pass it (which I wouldn't see happening). I don't know how they do it in SC, but if it is as relaxed as you say, then you should have no problem. You can try progressive....

Also, you can call any insurance company and give them an amount of the car that you would like to insure. I think if you do this it is considered a grey market vehicle. I could be wrong though...I don't own a skyline so I am no expert. I just have done some reading and want the same thing you want.

[MinisterofDOOM]

1) If I get a Skyline from Canada (with a Canadian title) shouldn't it be rather easy to title it in a state (such as my home state SC) that has no emissions or visual inspections of any sort? I mean as far as they are concerned is just like titling any other car from Canada I would think.

Unfortunatley, no. The Skyline is not a CDM model. You can import a Skyline to Canada fairly easily (15 year law) and import a canadian model to the US. But the Skyline isn't a Canadian model. It's a Japanese model that was imported into Canada. US import laws don't allow "re-importing". Any Canadian Skyline will already have been imported and can't be imported *again* into the U.S. I'm sure the law exists for exactly this reason: to prevent US citizens from taking advantage of more lenient Canadian import laws.

[GTGSXR]

I see... Well is there any website that has registration info as a kit car for all the states? SC doesn't document kit car policies on their DMV pages very well so I can't tell whether or not there would need to be inspection if I register it as a kit car. But I do know that everything for the title can be done in the mail without the car ever leaving your home or anyone coming to inspect it. That is for a regular car and title. Hell I even registered a salvaged title car without any form of inspection. Thanks guys for your help.

[GTGSXR]

From what I have read and heard, the only way your gonna get the car from canada is if you bring it in as "parts" (which I am sure you already knew). Most people figure since you can just drive across the border, it would be easy to import a skyline and that's not the case.

Well my idea for getting it into the country was fairly simple, but I wouldn't see why it wouldn't work. I have already aranged (if I were to do this) for a title to be sent my way. And since the only way I would register it would be without the car anyway, I could get a title assuming that I COULD register it. I would get the title and tag and then drive it across the border. I don't neccesarily see any sort of problem with this scenario if it is registered, titled, and insured in the US.

[AZhitman]

Nope.

If you'd read the sticky at the top of this forum, all these questions have been answered.

The "loopholes" are urban myths.

I'll say it for the 356th time:

I can afford an R32 / R33. I have connections in Japan, at the DMV, at Customs, and with law enforcement. It would be a 100% tax-write off. I'd love to drive one. It would represent NICO well. I even have someone who could maintain it for me.

See one in my driveway?

[cirwin]

Just out of curiosity, what do you mean they are myths?

Sure, if you do the "loophole" method, you will always have a grey market vehicle, but there are a number of cars coming into florida and georgia especially. And yeah, the grey market car is only worth about 60% the white market motorex cleared vehicles. And of course doing kit car method always has the possibility of no-pass or seizure at the ports, but it is possible.

The "loopholes" are urban myths.

I'll say it for the 356th time:

[Eikon]

How about the possibility of the DOT showing up at your door with a Tow Truck and telling you that you have 5 minutes to remove your personal belonging before they haul your skyline off the be crushed?

Not worth it!!!

[cirwin]

As far as I can tell, that would only happen if you black marketed it (i.e. snuck it in and never registered or registered as track car but use on streets). If you go about the grey market method, and it is successfully registered as a kit car, they wouldn't (depending on the state) have any room to do this.

But if that did happen, having it crushed would be the worst of your worries as you would likely face a number of fines for EPA/NHTSA non-compliance.

How about the possibility of the DOT showing up at your door with a Tow Truck and telling you that you have 5 minutes to remove your personal belonging before they haul your skyline off the be crushed?

Not worth it!!!

[cirwin]

And besides, don't you face that same possibility?

You have a 240 with a RB20det according to your sig. Last I checked, that was never offered in any USDM vehicles, making your car EPA non-compliant.

[AZhitman]

Big difference.

There's been no violation of federal law there.

I own 2 cars with non-USDM engines, and one with extreme non-USDM modifications. They are in no danger of being impounded.

The law speaks very clearly (if people would READ) to the issue of "kit cars", importing parts for reassembly into a complete car, VIN swapping, and other "backdoor" methods.

Again, those "grey market" cars are NOT insurable, and if you ever hit someone, and that someone is intelligent, you're gonna get sued into bankruptcy.

SOmeone will pipe up and say, "OMGWTFBBQ you are SO wrong I have insurance on mine through Geico!!11!"

Good for you. Try and make a claim. You falsified your application for the policy, so they bear no responibility to honor it.

[takaramotors]

Well I have read over a WEALTH of information in the past couple months while waiting for my skyline from takara motors that never came.

You're Skyline came and you have seen it you were the one who did not want to buy it. I have the proof so please watch what you say.

http://www.mscgva.ch/tracking/tracking_login.html

and the B/L number is MSCUJY663336So please do not say it never came when it did.

[Magnes]

See one in my driveway?

You need to move your driveway to Canada :-)

[AZhitman]

If it weren't for all the Canadians living there, I would.

(just kidding)

[Buck96]

Again, those "grey market" cars are NOT insurable, and if you ever hit someone, and that someone is intelligent, you're gonna get sued into bankruptcy.

SOmeone will pipe up and say, "OMGWTFBBQ you are SO wrong I have insurance on mine through Geico!!11!"

Good for you. Try and make a claim. You falsified your application for the policy, so they bear no responsibility to honor it.

I think the word you’re looking for here is Fraud, Insurance Fraud & it's a felony offence. Punishable by loss of all voters rights in the US. heavy fines and jail time up to 10yrs. maybe more in you specific area.

It's been established getting a R32-34 into the states, relatively not hard

Registering, licensing, & insuring one without breaking the law, swapping vin's, & any other questionable method, Relatively impossible…

& you have to ask yourself, is a car worth losing all rights to vote???

[Buck96]

Moving to Canadia ha ha

Yeah , I thought about transferring schools & moving to the UK. To dive one for my senior years & post graduate, but theirs something about their women that just doesn't suit my stomach

[S3t0_S13]

this kid in my area, has a R33, i dont know how he did it, probably motorex back in the way when it was legit, cuz ive seen em pulled over and never had his car impounded, and especially in california, and Los Angelas area, emmisions are ruthless, ive been pulled over and had 2 pop my hood for non USDM engines according 2 the officer, they carry handbooks now!!!!

but ya, he drives it around with no plates on either, jus teh JDM bling bling ones on the side and nothing on the back, lucky bastard did it in time !!!!

[AZhitman]

Eh, for what he probably spent, he could've built a SICK 240 or Z.

[S3t0_S13]

that is true, but still i dont think i would being the only guy for 500 miles in every direction driving a RHD monster. I dont see how he got that here, and now its practically impossible

let me get it right, motorex tried 2 title the skylines as older models 2 pay less, and they got busted, and since they were the supposed "ONLY" licensed importers, its impossible to get a skyline now in america?

[zoborax]

Big difference.

Again, those "grey market" cars are NOT insurable, and if you ever hit someone, and that someone is intelligent, you're gonna get sued into bankruptcy.

Good for you. Try and make a claim. You falsified your application for the policy, so they bear no responibility to honor it.

The chances of being in a situation of being sued into oblivion are quite slim, and besides, even people with legit USDM cars would encounter heaps of litigation if the situation was nasty enough.Like I said before, my car was titled and registered through progressive using the chassis code, exact model year, make, model, and trim. I even informed them of the lack of the blessings of the USDOT and the US EPA, and they said that was fine, so long as I had the registration for road use. So what is the probability of having bankrupt-spawning issues, then?

I'll give you this. I have not read all of the underwriting of the policy, which I probalby should do. That right there should answer everything. Now its just a matter of locating it!

[drft5redemption]

Eh, for what he probably spent, he could've built a SICK 240 or Z.

im an absolute 240/z fanatic but at the end of the day no matter how sick, they are still a 240 or a z.. now a skyline on the other hand.