So I killed a AWD tonite......

[Silent Drifter]

I was out cruisin an I saw this kid I know wit a WRX(boost controller, BOV, High Flow Cat, an probally some other crap). We pull up to a light an then this G20 pulls up an the guy in the WRX is revvin it like crazy. Then the G20 starts reving, I know I can take the G20(he doesnt think Im gonna run). So I take off but Im right next to the WRX(G20 is way back) so I start pulling an rolled on him by a car or so. I thought he wasnt really goin cause this guy should have me easily. So I ask him an he said he was really goin, so we catch another light an I totally waste him. I know something was wrong with his car so does he. He later said he had the boost too high.... But either way I won, problems or not. So records like 28-0 or somethin dunno stopped counting .

[Cold_Zero]

The kid was running too much boost and that was the problem? Sounds like piss pour driving was the problem.

[Silent Drifter]

yea i dunno that was his excuse, he said he was runnin 18 which he said he shouldve only been at 11. The car shouldve won I know that. But I know something was wrong because his car bogged at the launches. But I dont care excuses or not I still won.

[lessthanjakejohn]

If you raise the boost too high you lose power. He probaly just ****ed up his car and can''t drive like you said though.

[lessthanjakejohn]

i believe that the stock turbo on a rex stops makin power at 15-16 PSI

[Silent Drifter]

haha I dont what the problem was, but those cars arent as fast as ppl think, my friend has one too an best he hits at the track is 14.8's an he hasnt lost to the kid I raced tonite(with all his extra goodies).

[hadokenny]

wrx are overrated...my friend has one and we tested his 0-60 with a g-tec pro. It ran a high 6....

[Onizuka]

nah, i dont think WRX's are overrated, they are a great multy function platform. Are you willing to drive your boosted car in the snow? WRX owners love doin it!

[Cold_Zero]

1. 14.7 lbs of boost is the stock rating

2. The bough comes from letting off the clutch too quickly and the AWD system starts throwing power around to different wheels. The best approach I have found is the feather the clutch as you take off. After first gear you really dont need to worry about boughing down. I raced Repoman in his Grand Prix at IRP and I boughed the launch. I didnt catch up to him until 1,000 ft.

3. I would hardly consider his list of mods actual mods. Most people think if they buy a boost controller and jack the boost up, they will get more power or go faster. The only thing they will get is the ECU trying to retard the timing and lower the boost settings.

4. WRX under rated? Like a stock 240 is under-rated? How do you figure? Just because your buddy cant get the car to do what you want it to do, does not mean its the cars fault. Subaru is selling these things like hot cakes and I suspect its not because these cars are hyped up. The WRX is one of the hallmark cars in this most recent Sport Compact Revolution. BTW you guys know you have to calibrate the G-Tech to get accurate readings (which are suspect anyways).

[Phax]

Congrats on the kill. I'll chime in here and reiterate what a couple of other guys have already said... WRX's are hard to tune properly. They can be tuned to make stupid amounts of useable power, but their stock ECUs do tend to making tuning difficult.

Your buddy probably jacked up his engine by running too much boost, and not enough fuel. I sure hope that he has some extra money laying around.

[s14=pimpin']

I took one off the line too, (he bogged as well), but once 2nd gear kicked in, he ate my food. And this was a totally stock WRX. Just cause one kid can't drive his scooby, don't think that car is a POS. Those cars are NOT over rated, they are nicely built machines that will eat any 240sx, stock VS. stock.

and you should see my pals STI WRX, he beat a '94 TT Supra with ease. That is one car you can't f^ck with.

[HolyShiznit]

Well seeing how my good buddy owns a pretty well modded WRX I have to say that you are full of sh*t. They aren't over rated. Ever considered that the kid didn't want to break his transmission? When I went to the track there was a stock WRX there, he never launched and never shifted hard but still ran a 15.1. My friend's stock WRX ran a 14.3 as his best time. That was with hard launch hard shifting. Remember just because one car does bad don't dog on all of them. My car is an example of that. Thanks.

[I H8 UR DSM]

I was out cruisin an I saw this kid I know wit a WRX(boost controller, BOV, High Flow Cat, an probally some other crap). We pull up to a light an then this G20 pulls up an the guy in the WRX is revvin it like crazy. Then the G20 starts reving, I know I can take the G20(he doesnt think Im gonna run). So I take off but Im right next to the WRX(G20 is way back) so I start pulling an rolled on him by a car or so. I thought he wasnt really goin cause this guy should have me easily. So I ask him an he said he was really goin, so we catch another light an I totally waste him. I know something was wrong with his car so does he. He later said he had the boost too high.... But either way I won, problems or not. So records like 28-0 or somethin dunno stopped counting .

And neither is 15.5....the 240 w/ KA isnt going to kill much on the road, so face reality man....you 'won'?? So if race michael johnson, and he tears a hami, and i 'win', im going to go around bragging? lame....

[RobDET]

Word...

I raced a NA impreza and killed it back in my stock days... My buddy has a turbo one and he SMOKED the KA...

[Silent Drifter]

I never said 15.5 was fast, fast for a stock KA though. An the kid has plenty of money hes gone through 2 trannys already. I retract my statement about them being overrated, it was one case. I know I would lose stock vs stock, I shouldve lost last night, but driver comes into play alot. Like my friends supercharged z28, best hes ever ran was a 14.5 with a 3.1 60' an trap speed was 113.

[Cold_Zero]

I retract my statement about them being overrated, it was one case. I know I would lose stock vs stock, I shouldve lost last night, but driver comes into play alot. Like my friends supercharged z28, best hes ever ran was a 14.5 with a 3.1 60' an trap speed was 113.

I dont think it was you who called the WRX overrated. I think it was hadokenny. Dont apologize for something you didnt say or imply. Your ability to beat a person with a more powerful car (in a drag race) is a sign that you were the better driver at that point in time. When I first got my WRX, Repoman in his 240 could smoke me off the line and beat me in a race. Now that I have learned how to launch and drive the car, it could be a different story. Again, good job and keep sharpening your skills. When you perfecct your driving skills, extract all you can out if your car and then move on to a more powerful setup or car, you will be miles ahead of everyone else.

bud

[hadokenny]

I dont think it was you who called the WRX overrated. I think it was hadokenny. Dont apologize for something you didnt say or imply. Your ability to beat a person with a more powerful car (in a drag race) is a sign that you were the better driver at that point in time. When I first got my WRX, Repoman in his 240 could smoke me off the line and beat me in a race. Now that I have learned how to launch and drive the car, it could be a different story. Again, good job and keep sharpening your skills. When you perfecct your driving skills, extract all you can out if your car and then move on to a more powerful setup or car, you will be miles ahead of everyone else.

bud

i still think the wrx's are overrated...i have driven one. I love the fact that its turboed awd. HOwever, its not as quick as ppl say it is, but hey thats just what i think. May be i just dont know how to drive awd's. and Yes we did calibrate the g-tec pro before testing it. We did 3 runs and the best my friend got was a 6.6 or 6.7....he had an ok launch too....

[Antyoo]

i still think the wrx's are overrated...i have driven one. I love the fact that its turboed awd. HOwever, its not as quick as ppl say it is, but hey thats just what i think. May be i just dont know how to drive awd's. and Yes we did calibrate the g-tec pro before testing it. We did 3 runs and the best my friend got was a 6.6 or 6.7....he had an ok launch too....

i test drove one, and while it was powerful and pretty fast, it was, for the most part, a let down.

i had always heard a lot about wrx's so i was expecting more than they offered

[Cold_Zero]

i still think the wrx's are overrated...i have driven one. I love the fact that its turboed awd. HOwever, its not as quick as ppl say it is, but hey thats just what i think. May be i just dont know how to drive awd's. and Yes we did calibrate the g-tec pro before testing it. We did 3 runs and the best my friend got was a 6.6 or 6.7....he had an ok launch too....

How is the car overrated just because your buddy can not obtain the 5.4 0-60 sec times? What are the factors that go into making the car overrated? I happen to think that they are the ****. But I do admit they have some short comings.

[Altiman94]

I've never been a fan of them, but obvisouly the wrx driving in the racing story didn't know how to drive. U think way too highly of your 240. Show me a time slip of your 15.5 run. None of this, " my friend saw it" crap.

[book-ends]

Damn!! I was thinking about buying a WRX for myself here in a few months, but that story really changed my mind!!!

I think I'll modify an Eclipse GSX.......I was thinking lime green paint, stand alone fuel management system, nos (probably two of the big ones)........damn..........diamond plate floorboards..............whoo-weee!!....... I'll definately put some extra money into that intake manifold in case I blow the welds............

[shane bigler]

I will mention that a WRX isnt made to be a drag car...incase no one has mentioned that yet. Neither is an EVO which I saw post times just barely sub 14 (no matter what Motor Trend says). The WRX's stock clutch tends to be a bit on the weak side so I could see him being a bit easy on it. Most AWD cars Ive seen take launches pretty hard. With all that traction and low amounts of torque bogging is hard to avoid without having to smoke the clutch some. Or if you have the torque your transmission shi ts the bed.

Why do people race a stock KA anyway? Seems kinda counterproductive. Hell, my KA is so weak I wouldnt even try racing a Neon.

[Silent Drifter]

Altiman94- When I go to the track Ill have someone film it to satisfy your needs hows that?Shane- Is yours an automatic?? An ever hear of not every engine is the same? An the only Neon I wont race is a SRT 4.

[tl1000sga]

So records like 28-0 or somethin dunno stopped counting .

28 - 0 with a stock KA? Sounds like you choose your races well, or you never take chances.:icon18

[shane bigler]

I dont care how different one stock KA is from another, they arent fast. I wouldnt even bother to race a car that I know is slow. I wouldnt bother to race my car cuz I know its slow. And no...its a 5 speed and I can drive. It just seems contradictory to try to drive slow cars fast. I will wait until I have some decent power under the hood before I go trying to be fast and furious. Otherwize it would be an embarrassment even it I won.

[tl1000sga]

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it, but so is everyone else on this board, so why knock'em?:icon18

[Repo Man]

I dont care how different one stock KA is from another, they arent fast. I wouldnt even bother to race a car that I know is slow. I wouldnt bother to race my car cuz I know its slow. And no...its a 5 speed and I can drive. It just seems contradictory to try to drive slow cars fast. I will wait until I have some decent power under the hood before I go trying to be fast and furious. Otherwize it would be an embarrassment even it I won.

I can fully appreciate your point. I almost didn't race my 240 at the last NICO meet, but I went ahead and did it because it was fun. I'm glad I did it too because when I tested the car the first time at IRP, I ran a 17.4 at 76. Altiman was there to see that run. It was embarrassing, but I really don't give a damn what people think.

At Bowling Green a few weeks ago, I managed to run a 16.4 at 83 with the same car and no mods. I did clean out the TB and remove the air silencer however. This is not a quick quarter mile time as Mr. Kent Brockman has pointed out, however it was a marked improvement from where it was. Everything is relative and it was fun to participate with my NICO buddies.

As for the WRX, it is a car that you really have to know how to drive to get the most out of it. It is a very capable, well-made car with tons of potential. It is also very practical. And while that's not sexy to most people, it is handy in the real world. I think the people that blow up it's rep have never really driven a truly quick car, a 12 second street car for example. If they've never driven anything that ran quicker than a 16 second quarter mile, then sure, the WRX is quick as hell to them.

But if you're John Force, it's just another slow-*** street car.

repo

[Silent Drifter]

28 - 0 with a stock KA? Sounds like you choose your races well, or you never take chances.:icon18

1-WRX2-Jetta Turbo3-Golf Turbo4-Rabbit Turbo5-Prelude Si

There all around my time so its a good race. Why would it be fun for me to race some one Id win by alot theres no challenge there. What do you think bracket racing is for.

[Altiman94]

Yeah I was there repoman, but I would feel bad because I only ran a 16.9 at like 78 in my 89 s13. I know it wasn't my best driving, but still...

[Phax]

I dont care how different one stock KA is from another, they arent fast. I wouldnt even bother to race a car that I know is slow. I wouldnt bother to race my car cuz I know its slow. And no...its a 5 speed and I can drive. It just seems contradictory to try to drive slow cars fast. I will wait until I have some decent power under the hood before I go trying to be fast and furious. Otherwize it would be an embarrassment even it I won.

:withstup

Slow is such a relative term. With the stock KA and the rev limiter removed, the S13 can get up to about 110-120, which is more than fast enough to hurt yourself. It might not get there as quickly as say the same chassis, with a powerplant running 14psi... but hey, sometimes it's not about how quickly you get up to speed, and more about what you can do with it once you're there.

Luckily, the 240 comes with some pretty good suspension, so it is rewarding to drive it somewhat fast.