so embarassing...

[paranoidjack]

17 year old kid is whipping around in his filthy 95ish bmw 525. He sees me and I see him. I am behind him at a light that is double lane, but merges to one about a eighth mile after the light. There is a car next to him and a car next to me. I look to my right and see senior citizens, so I know i'll have room.

Light, green!

blip the throttle and keep on his bumper, turn off O/D, and move over when we're past the ladies. All goes as planned and I come a car length in front of him with 5ish seconds to go....

I was impressed....the 525 kept with the Q TOO well. I was in the right lane, with the two of us neck and neck the entire time. At roughly 90 mph, I had to pull back to avoid bushes/mulch.

OF COURSE out of coincidence I was stuck behind him for 20 miles of slow traffic, all the while watching him enjoy his victory with various hand motions and signals.

That M5 is looking pretty good now, especially that the Q is paid off!

[FarFetched]

If you get M5 you'll be bracing yourself when you put the foot on the floor. E34 M5 is a bad A$$ performer. Friend of mine , about 10 y ago had one. I've driven it several times! Not many cars of that era could run neck to neck with E34 M5. I love those round double headlights with angle's eyes upgrade!!!

[Skibane]

OF COURSE out of coincidence I was stuck behind him for 20 miles of slow traffic, all the while watching him enjoy his victory with various hand motions and signals.

Should have nudged him a few times - Heavier car, beefier bumpers (and probably the only one with insurance! )

[paranoidjack]

Should have nudged him a few times - Heavier car, beefier bumpers (and probably the only one with insurance! )

in MA, you TOUCH the car in front of you, even if they agree they slammed their brakes on or whatnot, it is your fault. THAT is some BS.

[elwesso]

That doesnt really come as a huge surprise.... The 525s 0-60 is probably about the same as the Qs if the 525 is in a 5 speed....

[Solini]

You sure he had a 95ish??? Reason I ask is the '95 525 0-60 time is 8.6 sec, where as your Q is 7.1 sec. My friend has a '99 528 and he doesn't even bother racing me anymore

[qship96]

97-01 q cant accelerate 0-60 in 7.1 seconds stock,more like 8-8.5

[Falkdesigns]

I beat my friends 93 540i. I've beat IS300's (first gen), I don't know, my Q is no slouch.

[sijoko]

The best "Bang for the Buck" upgrade for any heavy car with long gears, such as the Q, is a modified torque converter.

For about $500 bucks plus install, you will have a completely different car. Of course, you should also add a heavy duty cooler too.

[Q45tech]

"I don't know, my Q is no slouch."

Yes but you should see the wide range of Q out there, bad tires, bad drive shaft, bad transmission, weak engines with all sorts of injector, plug, KS and dirt problems.

Fair to say that most Q on the road are within a few seconds of ideal acceleration!

[maxnix]

97-01 q cant accelerate 0-60 in 7.1 seconds stock,more like 8-8.5

If it's not under 8, I would be checking the knock sensors.

Regardless, standing start is not any Q45 forté. It is the high speed pass.
Modified by maxnix at 12:33 PM 9/12/2006

[Solini]

97-01 q cant accelerate 0-60 in 7.1 seconds stock,more like 8-8.5

I'm given you the recorded data from edmunds.com and cars.com But the fact still remains he shouldn't have lost, . No offense but maybe it was more so driver error than the car, or like Q45tech said his car like most other's aren't running in prestine condition. Just my .02

[FarFetched]

I rememder when friend of mine had GOLF VR6 (2 door) he has raced E34 525 on several occasions. He has only won once because an auto transmission in E34. Manual 525 will whoop any Q A$$ period!Cheers!P.S I don't think Q is slower that VR6 Golf (2 door). But there is always that thin line between driver's seat and steering wheel, called the driver that makes the difference.

[Solini]

Well that's the thing, was he up against a manual or a auto??

[paranoidjack]

Well that's the thing, was he up against a manual or a auto??

from the way his car lurched, I would assume manual.

As far as "losing," we didn't start neck and neck by ANY means. He was first in line, and I behind him. I had to wait until we both passed the 2 cars next to us, until I could move into the right lane and try to take him. Also, he was able to travel slightly over the double yellow, while I was forced to head offroad had I stayed my course.

My new tires are not worth it!

I'm sure that I'd have had him if it was even, but it was frustrating nonetheless.

My Q is in perfect mechanical condition, aside from the infamous idle blip at a stop.

[Jesda]

525s are fairly slow cars. The '95 is a second and a half or more quicker than the '90 2.5 E34 manual I owned, but the later one doesnt -feel- much faster.

Weight difference is pretty noticeable, making off the line harder for the Q. Of course, Lexus and Cadillac manage to take off pretty gosh darn quickly, thanks in part to better traction and gearing.

[paranoidjack]

525s are fairly slow cars. The '95 is a second and a half or more quicker than the '90 2.5 E34 manual I owned, but the later one doesnt -feel- much faster.

Weight difference is pretty noticeable, making off the line harder for the Q. Of course, Lexus and Cadillac manage to take off pretty gosh darn quickly, thanks in part to better traction and gearing.

My friend has a 2000 GS400 with only about 35k miles on it. It is beautiful black/black, and off the line makes my Q whimper....at 80mph+ though, it is a different story.....

[crimsone]

hello, just wondering about the mod torque convert ? where can i get it and is that the price installed ?

Thanks

Earl

[pito11213]

I agree the GS400 is an animal. It is fast and puts a Q down.

Yeah the 528i are fast too.

[lino]

The E34 5 series equipped with a manual transmission in either 525i ir 535i trim launch pretty well. The automatic version on the other hand, are much slower. Any generation M5 will haul ***. I have an E28 M5 and no car I have ever driven puts a bigger smile on my face. Fun factor = 1000%.I would recommend an M5 in a heart beat, but must have full service history.

My friend has a 2000 GS400 with only about 35k miles on it. It is beautiful black/black, and off the line makes my Q whimper....at 80mph+ though, it is a different story.....

That car really moves. I raced someone with 1999 GS400, and he left me in the dust. He also raced a friend of mine who has an automatic 1998 540i and beat him too. Bear in mind, the driver has a lot to do with it.

I beat my friends 93 540i. I've beat IS300's (first gen), I don't know, my Q is no slouch.

The 93 540i suffered from the Nikisil problem and had a 4.0 liter powerplant and is not the same as the replacement 4.4 liter. Never buy an E34 530i or 540i unless the engine was replaced, in some cases by BMW NA.

I've owned several BMWs and even imported BMWs from Germany and I can tell you that the higher compression, less restrictive, different gearing, less weight and other factors make the Euro version car explode with power. For example, a 1983 528i with German specs can outperform a 1985-1988 US 535i, even with the manual. I know this from owning them. By the way, the 528i had more than triple the mileage too.

I've beat IS300's (first gen), I don't know, my Q is no slouch.

I had the opportunity to drive an IS300 when it was brand new for a year in 2001, and can say that I remember it being fast for what it was. It was no 3 Series, but nontheless, an admiral effort by Lexus.

Falk, sounds like your car is all show and all go!

[ScottJackson]

no such thing as '93 540i in the U.S. Also, the 4.4L engine had a little more torque, but same hp as the 4.0L the E34 was lighter than the E39 that the 4.4L came in. The 525i is about as quick as the 540i from right off the line, which is faster than the Q. Maybe it was a 540i with a 525 badge... prob not though. I know how it is with those earlier euro spec cars. My '79 euro 635csi fairly rips. With no help from the brakes on very sticky and coarse pavement, it'll spin both 255/45-17 tires all the way through 1st gear and chirp 2nd. It's also got the rather rare M90 block that came in the M1 racer and is good to over 800hp with some forced induction. A 540i of any year (assuming it has the alusil block) is a great performer with the 6 speed trans. Add a centrifugal blower kit to it, and it's a Viper beater. Check out Jimmy540i.com as he has a Dinan supercharged E39... with an automatic. Keep in mind, the E34 540i had the stronger 5HP30 auto trans than the 5HP24 found in the E39, so if you want the auto, the E34 would be better for modifications.

[lino]

no such thing as '93 540i in the U.S. Also, the 4.4L engine had a little more torque, but same hp as the 4.0L the E34 was lighter than the E39 that the 4.4L came in. The 525i is about as quick as the 540i from right off the line, which is faster than the Q. Maybe it was a 540i with a 525 badge... prob not though. I know how it is with those earlier euro spec cars. My '79 euro 635csi fairly rips. With no help from the brakes on very sticky and coarse pavement, it'll spin both 255/45-17 tires all the way through 1st gear and chirp 2nd. It's also got the rather rare M90 block that came in the M1 racer and is good to over 800hp with some forced induction. A 540i of any year (assuming it has the alusil block) is a great performer with the 6 speed trans. Add a centrifugal blower kit to it, and it's a Viper beater. Check out Jimmy540i.com as he has a Dinan supercharged E39... with an automatic. Keep in mind, the E34 540i had the stronger 5HP30 auto trans than the 5HP24 found in the E39, so if you want the auto, the E34 would be better for modifications.

I guess the US spec E34 540i was available as a 1994 -1995. We have different cars with different specs in Canada also.

I love the Euro E24. One of my all time favourite cars. I've one a Euro 1976, Euro 1978 and a CDN 1986.

[Peterofdevon]

My 01 540i 6speed sport is faster than both my Qs. There is nothing like crusing at 30, shifting into 2nd and hammering it...dito to 3rd.

I am drolling over the 07 M5 6 speed... It just come off the boat and guys are beginning to write it up on the bimmer boards.

But no matter how much I like the bimmer, I love CRUSING in the Q!!!

I want to repaint one of them now like James is doing---I freakin jelous!

Peter

[lino]

What Qs do you have?

[Peterofdevon]

What Qs do you have?

Current: 94 with 140K, Dk Blue, named Bluevaa, 94T 45K, Dk Green showroom except for some key marks in paint, named Greenvee

Past: 93 Beige drove from 30K to 217K, 91 cream drove fron 10K to 90K



Peter

[sijoko]

hello, just wondering about the mod torque convert ? where can i get it and is that the price installed ?

Thanks

Earl

Contact ProTorque about modifying your stock converter. You will have to do the install.

http://www.protorque.com/prodln/pl_im.htm

[lino]

Current: 94 with 140K, Dk Blue, named Bluevaa, 94T 45K, Dk Green showroom except for some key marks in paint, named Greenvee

Past: 93 Beige drove from 30K to 217K, 91 cream drove fron 10K to 90K



Peter

4 G50s

[Peterofdevon]

4 G50s

Guess you could say I like this car

Peter

[pito11213]

I thought the new M5 had a 7 speed transmission

One of my all time favorite cars is a 2000 M5