smic

[wild_maxx]

i am going to be running an old dsm smic on my low boost kae-t and was wondering if that would be sufficient for about 8 psi tops. and should i cut any ventilation hole in the front bumper to let more air through? should i take out the stock black wheel well lining also? i already took off the cardboard type cover under the car.

AND WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO ATTACH AN IMAGE TO MY POSTS!

[WDRacing]

I was running 14 psi with my Skyline for quite some time before I got a FMIC. So as long as you have the right amount of fuel a side mount will work fine. I wouldn't recommend it for a road course or anything, but regular spirited driving will be fine.

To attach an image you simply find any picture that is already online, if it's on your PC then you can upload it to the Nico Photo album for free. Anyway, once you get the pic online, simply right click on the pic, copy the address which will be under properties, then click on the add image icon. Two image tags will appear, simply insert the web address from the picture between the img tags. Here's an example, it should look just like this.

[img] post your pic address here [img]

Hope that helps

[Structure240sx]

you forgot the back slash before IMG in the second set of brackets

[img][/img] address in the middle of the two center brackets

like WD said the side mount will be OK for occasional boosting.

what turbo will you be running? a smaller turbo is going to produce more heat at 8psi than a larger one. this is why some people can go non-intercooled with say a t3/t4. if you using a t25 at 8psi ont he ka is going to produce alot of heat and could harm things

[wild_maxx]

its a small garrett t3. the number that is on the inside on the exhause houseing says .48 but i dont know what the a/r for the compressor side it. i was told it could produce around 300 hp. but my goal is only around 200-220. and any info on removing the wheel well lining or making some ventilation slits on the front bumper? thank you very much for the photo posting advice.

[wild_maxx]

[ColumbusDrift]

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its a small garrett t3. the number that is on the inside on the exhause houseing says .48 but i dont know what the a/r for the compressor side it. i was told it could produce around 300 hp. but my goal is only around 200-220. and any info on removing the wheel well lining or making some ventilation slits on the front bumper? thank you very much for the photo posting advice.

just use a dremel cutoff wheel and cut small vents in the fender liner. if you want to make it look very good, draw out the vents with a paint pen or marker on the opposite side and then cut. this is what i did on my buddy's s13 and it works pretty good.

[daniel240]

i ran a smic at 8psi for almost a year. if you want some pics or have any questions you can email me.

[nissanfanatic]

I used a SVT intercooler on my S13. I just cut some of the wheel well plastic stuff off and lined the intercooler up pretty well with the brake vents in the bumper. Seems to work pretty well.

[KATwo40]

like WD said the side mount will be OK for occasional boosting.

what turbo will you be running? a smaller turbo is going to produce more heat at 8psi than a larger one. this is why some people can go non-intercooled with say a t3/t4. if you using a t25 at 8psi ont he ka is going to produce alot of heat and could harm things

I run a VERY small turbo on my KADET (TD04H-13C) and have been hitting 7psi consistently. 370 injectors, SAFC and NO INTERCOOLER. I run a 2.75 from the outlet to the TB, right across the top of the radiator. So far, I've put about 2k miles on it and haven't experienced any troubles, other than needing to retard the base timing just a tad (like 5 degrees) to eliminate detonation.

Given that, I don't think a SMIC would be a problem, even while autocrossing or whatnot, so long as it gets good air flow and you don't detonate. 200-220whp from a T3/T4 isn't going to make crazy heat when running a SMIC. You should be fine.

PS> Anyone have a decent SMIC they wanna sell me? I gotta put one on this month before autoX starts. Don't wanna be running super hot intake junk.

[wild_maxx]

I run a VERY small turbo on my KADET (TD04H-13C) and have been hitting 7psi consistently. 370 injectors, SAFC and NO INTERCOOLER. I run a 2.75 from the outlet to the TB, right across the top of the radiator. So far, I've put about 2k miles on it and haven't experienced any troubles, other than needing to retard the base timing just a tad (like 5 degrees) to eliminate detonation.

what kind of HP levels are you seeing or estimating with your setup? and when you say retard the base timing you meen raise it or lower it. my stock base timing its 15 btdc so should i set it at 10 or 20? this is the dms 1g smic that i am using

[Structure240sx]

i stand corrected then. better told by someone with experince

[KATwo40]

Well, I'm seeing est. 210whp @ 7psi, but Dyno day is this week, so I'll know for sure then.

As for your timing...stock base timing (Engine warm, TPS Disconnected, 700rpm idle) is 18-22 degrees BTDC. I cranked mine to 15 BTDC (That's retarding, since you're making the spark come later in the stroke) and have no more detonation. It will cost you a little bit of low end torque, but probably not enough to notice.

That intercooler is good for up to around 240whp, so it should accomodate your setup just fine.

[wild_maxx]

i have the kae so my base timing is set at 15 deg. btdc. so i should retard to about 10 btdc?

[Def]

After running a stock SR SMIC for a while, I probably wouldn't trust it for more than about 200-220rwhp depending on how efficient your turbo is at that level. At 9psi(205rwhp) on my SR the cold pipes were getting a bit warm after just one pull, and multiple pulls would have it pretty heatsoaked.

It's definitely better than no intercooler(which is just asking for a toasted engine on a hot day IMO), but don't push it too hard.

My GReddy VSPL in comparison has the cold pipes down to within a few degrees of ambient it feels like. This is only at about 12 psi on my stock T25, so hot temps, but not much air is going through it. Definitely excess cooling.

IMO - buy a FMIC if you can fit it in your budget, but if you only want in the low 200's to the wheels, then a SMIC will do just fine.

[KATwo40]

Yup. Def is right. That's why I must get at least a SMIC before the heat comes. Or better yet, before the end of Feb., when the first autoX comes.

Yeah, as for the timing, retarding 5* should be fine. Just make sure you run 93 octane and when the heat comes, be certain to turn the radio off and listen to your engine for a while. If you hear detonation, crank just a tad bit more timing, but not too much or it'll run like poop.

[2s4x0]

Why doesnt anyone make top mount intercoolers, where we could have the scoop on the hood. Like the WRX. THat would be cool also different.

[Nismo_Freak]

Why doesnt anyone make top mount intercoolers, where we could have the scoop on the hood. Like the WRX. THat would be cool also different.

Because they suck?

[WDRacing]

Because they suck?

WORD

Lets take the cooling device and place it on top of the hottest thing under the hood...WTF was Suburoo thinking?

[2s4x0]

lol, ok......just asking.

[driftMachine]

Why doesnt anyone make top mount intercoolers, where we could have the scoop on the hood. Like the WRX. THat would be cool also different.

The only reason I can think of why Subaru does it that way is it's left over from their rally cars where they don't want the intercooler blocked up with dirt and debris. They already have those problems with their radiators. Solberg had problems overheating last year when everything blocked up his rad.

Not sure if it's their reason, but the only one I can think of. Probably a bit for looks too.

[DRIFTEADOR]

how about downforce and response (plumbing). front mount is more of a restriction.

[Def]

The length of pipes to do a SMIC or a FMIC is about the same on a 240SX chassis.

Trust me - I experienced no "lag" on my setup compared to the stock SMIC, and I'm running a dinky T25. If anything - it hits harder because the charge air is close to ambient by the end of the intercooler.