smic question, Is this any good?

Post by **toledo240** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

I heard about the arc smic, are they any good? Dont know too much about them fill me in on some info. Could it be a good choice in replace the stock smic, since im sticking with stock turbo?.

Post by **SRdave240** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

I don't see any point in upgrading your stock SMIC with another SMIC. If it is a money thing, just get an NPR FMIC from ebay and have a good exhaust shop make your piping.

Website · Post by **quiksilvia** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

arc is jdm i think, could be wrong, but yea, i would just go for the fmic

Post by **AP Autosport** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

The ARC sidemount is a replacement for the stock side and is a little larger, which would perform better than stock and wouldn't block your radiator. So, although it might not be as effeciant as a large front mount it might be ok to run with a otherwise stock setup. Just remember boost is addictave, like crack, and you are gonna want more and more.

Post by **toledo240** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

Guys I plan on staying with the ka radiator do you think this will have cooling problems if I get a front mount? DO you think just the small npr intercooler could do the job for the t25? Never really knew about the arc, dont they make fmic's? Were they stock on some car?

Post by **180fan** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

the ARC smic is good for up to 1.0 bar although you can go a little past 1.0 bar. They are much more efficient in design than the stock smic, slightly bigger from the front view but much thicker, have better flow, and very little lag. Those are the reasons for getting another smic versus a fmic. Also if you live in an area where the cops are hardcore about busting people with modifications, the smic would also be a good idea versus a clearly visible fmic.

Post by **toledo240** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

hey 180 fan just wanted to tell you im from toledo ohio! I dont even think a cop even knows what an intercooler is! j/k. but I know cali cops take stuff a little different. Here, I a cop will give me a ticket for modifications for having no front license plate thats about it, seriously.

ne ways- Getting a fmic is not a problem here its just that I cant afford it and I dont see why I would need one if im going to hae a t25 that can barely hold 1.0 bar of boost, am i right or am i wrong. Im really just looking for a good intercooler to replace my smic to keep my car at daily driven at around 11-12psi. thats it. Im prolley gonna just stick a 1g dsm smic in there or an arc if they are worth it. What do you guys think?

Post by **Phax** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

Toledo,

The Toyota Supra sidemount has been used by a couple of people who want to run a bit higher than stock boost. Have you compared the physical dimensions of the stock SMIC with those offered by ARC, Mitsubishi and Toyota?

You will have some cooling problems if you run an FMIC and the stock KA radiator. I'm running my T25 at 8psi right now. As soon as I get my hands on a boost controller, I'm going to dial it up to 10. I'll let you know how it runs, with regards to EGT and water temp. Right now, the highest I've seen the EGT get is 1400.

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

Phax wrote:The Toyota Supra sidemount has been used by a couple of people who want to run a bit higher than stock boost.

MkIV Supra Side mounts are good to over 400hp I hear, they do it on the supra's they come on dont they? If you can get the airflow to it, a side mount is a better choice than a front mount unless you are pushing insane amounts of boost IMO.

Post by **180fan** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

the mkIV's are monster. If you're going to run less than 1.0bar, I'd say go with the ARC. If you check out Yahoo auctions Japan, you can bid on the ARC SMIC's for about $80.00US. Yes, 80 bucks. Not to be able to give you exact dimensions, but the stock intercooler core is about than my palm from the front view. The ARC is a little larger than my palm and the thickness is about double that of the stock SMIC. The endtank design is much more efficient than that of the stock. If you're also looking at the S15 smic, yes, they are slightly larger with a more efficient design than that of the s13/s14 cores.

Post by **S13240** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

180fan wrote:the mkIV's are monster. If you're going to run less than 1.0bar, I'd say go with the ARC. If you check out Yahoo auctions Japan, you can bid on the ARC SMIC's for about $80.00US. Yes, 80 bucks. Not to be able to give you exact dimensions, but the stock intercooler core is about than my palm from the front view. The ARC is a little larger than my palm and the thickness is about double that of the stock SMIC. The endtank design is much more efficient than that of the stock. If you're also looking at the S15 smic, yes, they are slightly larger with a more efficient design than that of the s13/s14 cores.

And who here has an ebay japan account? Can you read japanese? Also most of the time you will need a japanese bank account as well.

Post by **toledo240** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

I heard the supra intercoolers are great but their pressure drop isn't that efficient. Please prove me wrong b/c im not sure.

Phax -I really dont know the biggest diffence in dimensions between the 1g and the supra intercoolers, but I do know the size of the arc compared to the stock like 180 fan already pointed out.180fan- so your saying the s15 and the arc intercoolers are just about the same? What do you thin arc or s15? if I chose one of these. Whats better you think?

Post by **180fan** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

S13240 wrote:And who here has an ebay japan account? Can you read japanese? Also most of the time you will need a japanese bank account as well.

Actually yes I can read some Japanese. Whatever I can't read, I can always take it to my teacher as well. I've been taking classes since HS and continued as much as I could in college. Currently I'm unable to because of the workload associated with my major (unable to squeeze the extra 5 units in), but whenever I can I'll be sure to take it again to continue my study of the language. I also didn't say ebay, I said yahoo auctions japan. Check with different sellers as some do take paypal and paypal can do the conversion for you.

toledo240, if you've the option of getting the ARC vs the S15, get the ARC. It's much better than the S15's. Just the S15's is better than the s13/s14 smic. That's what I was trying to say. If it got a bit jumbled, sorry about that.

so here it is in a nutshell:

s13 = s14 < s15 < ARC for SMIC.

Post by **toledo240** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

doesn't the arc also just bolt on the stock intercooler piping?

Post by **180fan** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

yep it's just a regular bolt up to the stock stuff. If you want to change the piping, you can get the greddy or ht or enjuku brand hot pipe and get a cold pipe made for the sr if you wanted that also.

Post by **vwluv10338** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:31 am

I just bought an intercooler from a Toyota Astro (turbo Lexus GS300 in Japan, same as a Mk. 4 Supra) and I believe the dimensions are abourt 12x15x5. That is about the same overall as the medium sized front mount sold on ebay. In reading nissan forums from New Zealand and Australia this seems to be a fairly standard upgrade. If it is good enough for people in other parts of the world that have had these motors longer than us then it is good enough for me.

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smic question, Is this any good?

smic question, Is this any good?

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