Should i keep my A/C?

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silviaziz
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I'm in the process of swapping my s14 eng & trans. into my s13 chassis. Should I ditch the A/C or keep it. Will it "hook" up easily or will some fabrication be required. I also understand that the condenser may block some cool air from the radiator and intercooler; will this significantly decrease my performance/cooling abilities.

Thanks for everyone's help in advance.


noobdrftr
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depends do you ever use the AC? Do you plan on selling it in the future?

Shabbernigdo
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if u use or like havin AC then keep it.

if u dont care for it or never use it, ditch it.

MastaYu
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it should be ok with cooling

EviL inside
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i kept mine. in south mississippi heat, i had no cooling issues.

i never understood why people do swaps and rip out (or don't connect) the A/C stuff unless it's strictly a track car. really why would you half-a** it?

since mine was totaled, i've been looking for another 240, preferably with a swap, but just about all the ones i've seen the idiots left out the A/C on an otherwise complete, streetable swapped car, so i won't buy it.

if you care about how easy or difficult it will be to sell later on, keep the A/C

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RCA
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Living in the Carolinas you definitely want your air to be conditioned. It get humid...Plus it helps with resale value because people who by cars that have has the AC removed usually tells the buyer it was done because he was racing etc...

Removing your AC doesn't add boat loads of power either. Unless it is going to be a full out track car and the only driving you are doing with it is on a track, where using your AC leaves you at an competitive disadvantage then it isn't worth it EVER

silviaziz
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Thanks for all the replies; I'm gonna stick with the A/C as long as it's not too much of a headache to hook-up

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AZ89two4Tsx
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No A/C ftl. Especially out here.

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ZOMG.SR20
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my 240 was an extreme base with no fittings or condenser or any way of hooking it up anyway.

also the lines from the chassis need fabrication to fit in the SR compressor housing

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rico05
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I had removed a/c from my FC and both of the S13s I have owned. I just think the bay looks cleaner, makes instal faster, removes about 60lbs of weight. I am not a p****, so I deal with it. Even in the summer. While wearing a tie.

I love the looks on the faces of the M5 and Porsche owning poser VPs at my company when I come rolling in.

EviL inside
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line "fabrication" is no big deal. i had a 90 sx with a de swapped in. i kept the original evaporator and drier/accumulator, used a condensor from the 93 donor of the DE motor, and the bracket and compressor from a 96. the only line that had to be made was the low pressure line from the firewall to the compressor. the "fabrication" involved taking the compressor side fitting and firewall side fitting to an A/C shop and telling them how long i needed it. $30 and it all worked.

for an SR, CA, RB, the MOST that would be needed is TWO of those lines. the one from the compressor to the condensor, and the one from the firewall to compressor. nothing else is needed, even for R134a operation,,,the 90 (which originally used R12) used the EXACT SAME expansion valve as the 96 (from the factory with R134a), and the design of the condensor, evaporator, and accumulator/drier is virtually the same, just with slightly different mounts and fittings.

it's easier than people make it out to be. i've done it, and i'm a cheap a**

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AZ89two4Tsx
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Bump, kinda.

Which compressor is colder? The sohc, dohc, or dohc R134a? If they're basically bolt-in with little to no mods, I'll just go with the colder one.

EviL inside
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lol. they all serve the same purpose. there aren't any that are "colder" than the other.

the ONLY reason i went with a 96 compressor is because it already had the "correct" seals for R134a and the oil used with it (and i got a rebuilt one for $65). i didn't change any other seals though, and had no leaks, but some people SWEAR you MUST change the seals in an R12 system to R134a "compatible" seals/o-rings.

if you REALLY don't wanna "convert" your R12 system, you can use propane/isobutane mix just fine. i wouldn't recommend doing so unless you know what you're doing though.

undoubtedly someone will jump on here and say it's dangerous to drive around with propane in your car, although propane is less volatile than gasoline,,,not to mention that in case of an accident and leak, propane dissipates MUCH quicker than gasoline fumes, and is actually LESS likely to ignite.


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