Should I feel bad??

Post by **Charlie240sxt** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

Ok me and my girl was drivein down the highway(@ about 80)when all of a sudden this car come right up on my *** so close I cant see any light off its head lights (about 1030pm). So I let off the gas guy gets a little closer, so I down shift to 4th still the guy/girl stays inchs away from my car cant see all the hood now down to 3rd line next to me is wide open still on my *** so I tap the brake all of a sudden dude spins out in front of traffic didnt get hit tho could of got hert bad just been on my mind what you guys think??

Post by **Auto-X 240** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

If you were in the left lane you should have pulled over to let the car go by. However, there's no reason that person should have been right on your *** like that either.

Post by **zombieman** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

wow, that person must be in a hurry if you're already going 80......dont feel bad, that bastard deserve it for tailgating........they should of change lane before even approaching another person car who seems slow to them......

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

yea if you were in the left lane thats ur fault, but the guys an ahole anyway. Hey in germany its illegal to tailgate.

Post by **240SXedUp** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

On the autobahn you cant be in the left lane unless you are passing. I think that should be a US rule as well.

Post by **Rockenreno** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

Silent Drifter wrote: Hey in germany its illegal to tailgate.

Hey, in America its illegal to tailgate too :thinker

Doesn't matter what lane he's in, he could be going 20 on the freeway in the left lane and he would still hold no responsibility for that guy spinning out. It is your responsibility to deal with the traffic in front of you, because they can't always be looking behind them. Obviously you should move right if you are slower than other traffic as common courtesy, but it sounds like that guy got what he deserved to me.

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

240SXedUp wrote:On the autobahn you cant be in the left lane unless you are passing. I think that should be a US rule as well.

It is.

Just not enforced much here as the PPL who make the laws (old PPL) are guilty of it so much themselves.

If you are in the left lane, you MUST check your rearview mirror every few seconds, for a faster car and then move over to the rightif one approaches

You cant be in the left lane, unless actually passing someone at that time.Even if you are going faster than traffic.

In the left lane, the faster car, has the right of way.

Fred

Post by **InstantRice** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

yeah you weren't exactly innocent but tailgating at 80? i wouldn't lose sleep over it.

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

Charlie240sxt wrote: so I tap the brake all of a sudden dude spins out in front of traffic didnt get hit tho could of got hert bad just been on my mind what you guys think??

I am, usually not the judgmental type, of other members, but you were clearly in the wrong to begin with, and then you compounded it, by provoking an accident, instead of realizing your original error and pulling to right.

Dont forget, he can't pass you on right technically, so he couldn't pull around you legally.

Tailgating was the only tool he had, other than flashing his hi beams, to communicate with you.Since it was dark, maybe he didnt wish to blind you with a flash?

Fred...

Post by **D1SR240** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

240SXedUp wrote:On the autobahn you cant be in the left lane unless you are passing. I think that should be a US rule as well.

it is a law in illinois

Post by **StrangeLove** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

Quote »Dont forget, he can't pass you on right technically, so he couldn't pull around you legally.[/quote]

I SERIOUSLY doubt he was concerned about the illegalness (my own word) of passing on the right. He was already speeding and tailgating... Also, since he was behind you, he is at fault. He was in control of his own actions, and he chose to tailgate you.

don't worry about it.

Post by **Rex** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

Charlie240sxt wrote:Ok me and my girl was drivein down the highway(@ about 80)when all of a sudden this car come right up on my *** so close I cant see any light off its head lights (about 1030pm). So I let off the gas guy gets a little closer, so I down shift to 4th still the guy/girl stays inchs away from my car cant see all the hood now down to 3rd line next to me is wide open still on my *** so I tap the brake all of a sudden dude spins out in front of traffic didnt get hit tho could of got hert bad just been on my mind what you guys think??

Unless I mis-read the original post, he never mentions he was in the left lane.

Keep in mind if he was in the left lane, he should have moved over assuming traffic would have allowed (and he said it would have).

BUT, if someone's driving at or above the speed limit (80mph) and is "overtaken" by a faster car (more than 80mph) is it really relevant to talk about the legality of him moving to the right or not?

Post by **240SXedUp** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

It may be a law but I can guarantee you that no cop will pull you over for being in a left lane going the same speed as the car in the right. On the autobahn you can be going 120 in the left lane and still have to get over on the right so the people going 150 can go through, and they have to get over for the people going 175. I think in the US there a bunch of people who figure theyll enforce the speed limit by going the speed limit and not letting anyone pass them

Post by **Charlie240sxt** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

Well i was passing people till he got up on my *** speed limet 65 3 line highway just so you guys know and he had 2 more manes to get in after i slowed down still on my *** so i dont think i should but still he could of got killed

Post by **240DRFT** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

i wouldnt feel bad. i'd just be like uh and shrug my shoulders and drive on home. then have some waffles in the morning with Mrs. Butterworth syrup and a glass of orangejuice.sorry for straying off.

Post by **TheSnail** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

I would of turned around to see if they died, then take pictures of their dead a-s-s to make a bumper sticker for other tailgaters.

Post by **Nathan** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

Charlie240sxt wrote:but still he could of got killed

Tailgaters should just be shot on sight, there is no good cause for tailgating and I can proudly say I've never done it. However, I have done what you did to that guy, to TONS of people.

Post by **Phax** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

As it was pointed out, you should have just moved over and let the guy go by. You shouldn't feel bad for them wiping out though. It even says in the driver's manual (here in CA at least) that when you are being tailgated, you should lightly tap your brakes a few times to encourage the other person to go around.

Post by **D1SR240** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

yea dude, don't worry don't feel bad

Post by **SpeeDDrifT** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

i can understand your concern you feel responsibly for contributing in possibly killing someone on the freeway (of course he is also at fault)....i hate tailgaters more than anyone....however you never said you weren't in the left lane so i will assume you were....i would have moved over when i saw the faster car coming in my rear view....it is just not worth it to play games on the road....he WAS wrong in tailgating you but you were at fault for not JUST switching to a slower lane....i assume you main purpose for driving was to GET somewhere, and brakechecking someone doesn't help achieve that.

Post by **Bubba1** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

Personally, I would have moved over and let the Kamikazee by. This is not racing. But if your intent was to get him to back off without your moving over, I think the emergency flashers might have been a safer stategy without slowing down. It would make him less likely to nail your rear when he reacts. Bear in mind, an impact might be considered his fault, but you and your car still could get hurt/damaged, so there are no winners with an impact. And with a passenger in your car that you are responsible to protect, you shouldn't be taking unnecesary risks like that. The other driver was clearly wrong to tailgate, but you were not helping the situation by tapping the brakes. I think if the situation arises again, IMHO, you should let the faster driver pass you.Let him get nailed for speeding instead of you

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

The usual procedure for alerting folks in the left lane that are traveling slower than you are, is by a couple of quick flashes of your brights or by turning on your left run signal..

In this country most would just assume you forgot about your signal..

and keep on driving, hence the brights.

If he didnt use them, that means he was being extra polite because it was night and didnt want to blind you.

The greatest breach of driving etiquette known to me, is ; not moving over for the faster car on the left lane.

Even when I go 95 mph, I <always> check my rearview, for a faster car, every few seconds and move over immediately when one approaches.

If I was in left lane with the road clear ahead of me and I noticed someone behind me, I would be embarassed at my error for not already being in the right lane, pull over in a jiffy and even apologize with a handwave.

As a rule of thumb:If the road is clear in front of you , no one should be able to tailgate you, as by the time they are there, you should already be in the right lane (assuming its clear).

I think todays "drivers ed", skips all these "road rules", so as not to encourage speeding, which is why many younger members are unaware of these basic rules of the road.

Tailgating is bad, but he shouldnt have been able to tailgate, if ettquette had been followed.

When I think of tailgatin,g I dont think of someone communicating with you, but if the road is clogged all around and for no reason moving too close.

I often notice keeping the proper interval and someone will just slip in, turning you into a tailgater for a second or so, until you can brake to re-restablish proper interval,And then another guy slips in.

Sigh, I really wish Drivers Ed would cover basic behaviour rules on the road.

Much of so called "Road rage", is due to 2 drivers going by seperate rules, one by proper ettiquette and the other by none.

And they both think they are in the right and that the other made the driving error.

Fred...

Post by **Charlie240sxt** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

I never seen him coming. I was passing car like crazy and not lookin behind me next thing i know he was on my ***. Frist i thought it was a cop cuz i was 15 over the SL but we passed under a light and i saw it wasnt. ther was cars in all 3 lanes me being in the far left then after i started slowing down thay still at 70 or so me now at 65 tring to get this guy off my ***

Still i hope this guys ok even tho he was an *** and tailgated

Post by **Bubba1** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

Well said, Fred.

Post by **SloS13** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

Nathan wrote:Tailgaters should just be shot on sight, there is no good cause for tailgating and I can proudly say I've never done it. However, I have done what you did to that guy, to TONS of people.

^^

Post by **offtheline** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

240SXedUp wrote:It may be a law but I can guarantee you that no cop will pull you over for being in a left lane going the same speed as the car in the right. On the autobahn you can be going 120 in the left lane and still have to get over on the right so the people going 150 can go through, and they have to get over for the people going 175. I think in the US there a bunch of people who figure theyll enforce the speed limit by going the speed limit and not letting anyone pass them

My grandfather was once pulled over in Pennsylvania for driving in the left lane at 2:30 in the morning with nobody else on the roads. The cop just wanted to pull him over for driving in the left lane. Can you believe that?

In Georgia, nobody knows the rule that the left lane is for passing. I thought that was standard procedures in all states...

Post by **JESTER** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

Reguardless of what lane you were in, he got what he deserved. Matter of fact he should have hit something hard just for being an a$$. I have little use for people like that.

You were going faster than you probally should have been, and I would guess he was doing just to be a prick. He deserved to get his ride messed up for being stupid.

Sorry for being mean. No, I take that back. I'm not sorry.

Post by **EazyBreazy** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

some of you guys arent reading everything you read the first post then post your oppinion. thus leading to misinformed opinions. he was passing someone... someone else came up behind him. and was on his *** as he was passing them. mind you cars in every lane so even an illegal pass onthe right wouldnt have worked for the car in the rear. and he imediately began slowing......i as welll hate tailgaters but this is a situation where if he had passed the car to his right as planned hastily and gotten over it all could have been avoided. was he completely wrong. no the other guy could have backed off till he had passed the car and had sufficient time to change into the right lane. should he feel bad hell thats a personal thing......ever have a family member die and people tell you to feel better.....doesnt work....same way with someone telling you you should feel bad.....fred was right in what he said and thats the way i drive as well.....common courtesy will get you a long way

Post by **Cyberkreig** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

I dont think that people choosing to drive 95mph deserve ettiquette. Will I move over? Yes, but only to avoid an accident and keep you from tailgateing me. At that speed you are breaking the law, you dont deserve a clear lane & special rules so that you can continue breaking the law without the bother of law abiding drivers. At that speed (it is my humble opinion that) you are a danger to yourself and other drivers on the road.

My friends all hate driving with me because I am known for doing 5-over. Leave early, arrive alive.

Post by **EazyBreazy** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:03 am

he himself said he was doing 15 over when the other car pulled up on him......how does that make it right to not pull over for another car going even faster

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