Should i buy this G?? wrecked =/

[joneperry]

I was looking forward to buying this G and can someone who has knowledge about repairs tell me about the frame and other body damage. Here are some pics

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-it looks like the engine is "crunched" can anyone confirm?

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-rear bumper broken

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-passenger airbag deployed

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[IMG][/IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/42378901@N06/3905913784/

-here you can see the door is effed up, and u can see the hood coming up a bit, does this indicated frame damage.?

I am scared to take a risk thats why im asking all you to help me out here. The car sits about 1.5 hours from my house and will need plenty of advice before checking it out.

[Nazc0]

what do they want for itbut honestly i would say no unless its dirt cheep it looks like a total loss from those picsbtw url goes in between the [img][/img]

[spacy9]

Couple of quick questions right off the bat:

1) What year is it and how many miles?2) What are they asking for it?3) Can you do the work yourself, or are you going to have to pay someone to do it?

I'm definitely not an expert, but looking at the A Pillar on the passenger side and how the body panels are all out of wack it could very well have a bent frame. It may just be the part of the frame that holds the engine cage in but it's very hard to tell.

Here is my quick advice without knowing all of the facts - Don't do it! I was in an accident back on June 4th. Here is the link to the thread I made.

http://forums.g35club.org/zerothread?id=429092

There are a couple of pictures in the first post and some more farther down. Take a look at the A Pillar on my car - it looks similar to the one on this car. My frame was bent 1 1/2 inches and the engine cage had to be replaced. Honestly I don't think mine looks half as bad as the car in your pictures does.

Do you want to guess how much it cost to fix my car?

$18,957.23

Well, there is my 2 cents anyway.

[joneperry]

Sorry to all that replied, I am 100% newbie today is my first day on this forum. But to those who asked it is a 2004 with 80k miles on it. The place listed $5700 for it, which i know is over priced. Most of the cars on this lot are already $2000 overpriced right off the bat. But I am confident I can bargain with them. I am doing most of the work myself. I have experience with my 3 series with basic engine work like changing the spark plugs, thermostat, and changing the bumpers.

I will take it to teh body shop to get the frame straightened if it costs around $500 ( idk about that). But if i do manage to get the car for $2500 to $3000 is it worth it?

[joe603]

First, welcome to NICO!

As for the car...I would only buy it if you can do most of the repairs yourself. The problem with a salvage car is that you'll have a hard time getting a loan for it...and an even harder time selling it later.

[BrandAidDesignG35]

I would do it for 3K, but it's going to take time and dedication.

Your frame looks bent, so it will need to be repaired.

I think I would want to have it professionally looked at first if I could bargain with the dealer.

Good luck

[G_whizz]

Welcome!



I agree with Joe. Unless you are going to do all the work yourself. I wouldn't. That's ALOT of time and $$ you'd be pissing into her.

[RobTurbo]

When you say..."I have experience with my 3 series with basic engine work like changing the spark plugs, thermostat, and changing the bumpers."

I hope you realize that body work and mechanical work are not the same. People spend years perfecting body work, and it is still not always perfect. "I will take it to teh body shop to get the frame straightened if it costs around $500 ( idk about that). But if i do manage to get the car for $2500 to $3000 is it worth it?"

If you think they will replace a door panel, rear quarters, straighten the frame, repaint the car ect ect for under $3000 your dreaming. Even if my best friend owned a bodyshop I couldnt get it done for that.

My suggestion to you is to take the pics to a bodyshop, tell them what you want to do yourself, then ask them for a ball park on what it COULD cost to get that thing on the road. Dont forget about writeoff inspections ect ect

[bentrod]

A rule of thumb in the insurance claims business is that a car like this has a salvage value in the 20% to 30% range of it's ACV (Actual Cash Value) On top of that, we figure at least 20%+ for hidden damage. I would try to find out from the seller if there was a written estimate of repairs so you don't get surprised. Try not to pay more than 20% of the car's ACV, especially since you do not have body shop experience with total loss cars.

[smockers83]

Answer = no.

Buy one when you can afford one, you'll have a car that's in good condition with a warranty. You're going to find yourself with your head up your a** trying to fix it.

It would cost you as much to fix as it would be buy one of the same year, it may even be cheaper to buy a non-wrecked one. So I guess get it if you can get it for free.

[joneperry]

Yeah I realize how much it will cost to fix it, that is why I would be doing most of the work my self. The only thing i cannot do is repaint, and straighten the frame, otherwise everything else is pretty much do-able for me. Mechanical work is not a problem. Body work is the only pain in my a$$. I am going down to this dealer in about 1 to 2 weeks, going to ask him about 1000 to 1500 for it, if not im not going to worry about it. Hopefully he has pity for me and gives it for free

[4wheelkillr]

Yeah I realize how much it will cost to fix it, that is why I would be doing most of the work my self. The only thing i cannot do is repaint, and straighten the frame, otherwise everything else is pretty much do-able for me. Mechanical work is not a problem. Body work is the only pain in my a$$. I am going down to this dealer in about 1 to 2 weeks, going to ask him about 1000 to 1500 for it, if not im not going to worry about it. Hopefully he has pity for me and gives it for free

The 20% rule for total losses isn't always the case. There's no specific rules (in most states) regarding when a vehicle MUST be totalled. I've personally seen insurance carriers repair vehicles with damages over 100% of their value; they also consider expenses to sell and cost of salvage recovery when deciding to repair or not- quite honestly some insurance companies are better than others. What the other guy was saying was about current salvage value based on acv. 20% is a good figure for salvage value if the vehicle has no to minimal unibody damage and no mechanical problems...it's all just body and cosmetic. If that were the case this car should have a salvage value around $3400. $5700 asking price for that car says this salvage yard believes this thing has ONLY body damage and NOTHING else..that's about a 34% bid which is pretty high in my opinion based on only the damages I can see.

I bet I'm not too far off when I say parts alone are going to exceed $10,000. Assuming you can get good deals. Check into used parts too car-parts.com is a great place for all kinds of stuff. Here's a quick list as far as i can GUESS:Passenger airbag and control modules/seatbelts/brackets: $3000lt fender: $500rt fender: $500left door: $2000 (shell and all subcomponents) ( car-parts has a used one for $800)left quarter: $1500front cover: $500rear cover: $500 (look for aftermarket on these- you might get it down to $250ish)so at rough guess that's about: $8500 in parts...that does NOT include the small stuff up front like rebar, absorber, headlamps, and front inner structure that the pictures dont show. Hood might be ok, hard to tell but it looks like it's in line over both fenders on the front picture.

This car also is going to have minor hinge-pillar, lock b-pillar, and moderate to severe inner quarter damages.

You need to have a moderate to high level of body repair experience. Replacing a quarter panel and working out all the inner structure so the replacement parts all fit perfectly is not an easy feat for someone with no experience. As stated previously it takes years to learn the body trade and 10+years to be truly proficient.

On this car I'd agree with most people here...do NOT do it.My rough guess on value on this car based on nada is $17,000. You're going to spend $10,000 in parts at the very minimum, you're going to spend another $1,000 to have the body shop do the unibody setup and pulls that you can't, another $2,000 in paint costs (if done professionally) and at least $3,000 to buy the thing. That's $16,000 to repair a wrecked car that's only worth $17,000. Totally not worth it.

99% of the time the only time this would be feasible would be if you owned a bodyshop, you got all parts at cost, you can do all the paint, mechanical, and bodywork on your own, and you have the time to do it. Even then it's going to take you $5,000-$7,000 and months of your free time working weekends and nights after your dayjob.

check out cars.com: 2003 Infiniti G35 $15,999 79,801 mi.2004 Infiniti G35 $14,450 66,677 mi.2004 Infiniti G35 $13,995 71,995 mi.

Happy hunting!