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jdmsilvia240sx
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Well, I have finally worked out all the quirks and have got the car running well. I have got a walbro fuel pump, blitz downpipe, catco cat, and blitz exhaust. The problem is that I thought the car would be a hell of a lot faster. With the KA I would keep up with my buddy's integra gsr with an intake and exhaust, and now I hardly seem to pull on him. I haven't taken it to the track to see actuall numbers, but does this seem right? Would there be anything anyone could suggest that I could tweak to make this baby move a bit quicker? I mean I know it is a pretty stock SR, but I was just so much more excited at first and now I am a bit let down. :confused:


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Well since an SR20DET only has about 50hp more than a stock KA and you added probably 15hp with an intake and exhaust on the KA, you only actually probably gained about 35hp. That's really not a great deal. Imagine running a 20shot of nitrous on your KA and that's what the SR should be like.

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haddixracing wrote:Well since an SR20DET only has about 50hp more than a stock KA and you added probably 15hp with an intake and exhaust on the KA, you only actually probably gained about 35hp. That's really not a great deal. Imagine running a 20shot of nitrous on your KA and that's what the SR should be like.
You're retarded, stop talking.

Somehow the mods to the SR do nothing? (downpipe, exhaust)And you think intake/exhaust gives 15hp on the KA? :rotflmaoDon't talk if you don't know

jdm, check your timing, and if you dont have a boost gauge, get one...make sure youre making a full 7 pounds

finally, check your compression, then check the turbo

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Machine wrote:<snip>


Thank you for handling that, good job.

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Really? I'm more than satisfied with the SR in my '93 240. I used to have a '90 240sx. That car is way slower than my SR redtop powered '93. As machine said, check the timing. This is where a lot of ppl messed up. Set the base timing right (read S14 SR FSM). And time it to 15 BTDC with a timing gun. Then test drive. That'll put a smile on your face.

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Homie, your car isn't tuned right. A properly tuned SR20DET with your mods will walk away from GSRs all day long.

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Why does everybody think the SR is going to make their car a rocket? Too much Sooper Street?

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my thoughts exactly sam, kids and there issues of popper street

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SingleCamSam wrote:Why does everybody think the SR is going to make their car a rocket? Too much Sooper Street?


because 14 second 1/4 mile times on a stock SR (some people can go faster) is a whole hell of a lot faster than the KA.

Everybody on this board with a *properly* running SR could not be more satisfied.

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I'd have to agree that the car isnt tuned right. But at the same time, Why did you put the cash into a motor swap? All the money you spent could have gone into making up the HP differnce between the KA & a stock SR...

Dont forget, now you have something to build off of.. almost everything you do from here on is going to make you quicker..the SR is more or less a scaleable turbokit.

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:because 14 second 1/4 mile times on a stock SR (some people can go faster) is a whole hell of a lot faster than the KA.

Everybody on this board with a *properly* running SR could not be more satisfied.
a stock SR (bone stock, smic, air box) will not run a 14 flat, more like 15 flat...this is STOCK

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Cyberkreig wrote:Dont forget, now you have something to build off of.. almost everything you do from here on is going to make you quicker..the SR is more or less a scaleable turbokit.


:Werd

Just crank up the boost until it pops!! :ylsuper

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I have a pretty comparable set up to yours it looks like, and even with my timing issues unresolved it felt much better than my old KA.

Definetly look at the timing. Check your boost. Are there any indications that something else is wrong? Ugly noises?

It seems that many people getting these engines tend to forget that when you get any new engine you will have to work out some bugs. Nature of the beast. You can't expect it to just be perfect right off the bat. After I got my car back up and running (from a shop even) things still werent perfect, they still aren't. Be patient and take the issues one at a time.

Also. How long have you been running it? Are you racing people without breaking your engine in? Could be bad.

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Machine wrote:a stock SR (bone stock, smic, air box) will not run a 14 flat, more like 15 flat...this is STOCK
maybe you should do a little more research
TurboEX wrote:at 99mph with a 1.8 60ft i hit a 13.5 all stock
people hit mid 15's with stock KA's

-matt :)

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My 95' 240SX SE with KA did 15.5 all stock, just intake and exhaust. 2.22 60ft and 87mph

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yah no way a stock KA will run 15 flat.

My SR with only bolt ons ran a 14.1 at 8psi and a 13.4 @ 14psi... Check for timing, boost leaks, and a clogged cat

before fixing my timing the car went a 14.3 at 14 psi... timing is a big deal

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RobDET
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oah and the best my ka ever ran was a 15.9 and it won't get under a 2.2 60ft yet (crappy tires)

jdmsilvia240sx
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I'll definately check the timing, and I appreciate all of the suggestions. It could be just me thinking the car isn't as fast as it should be. Shouldn't the shop have checked that though when it got installed.

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1.Why do people always blame super street when someone talks about an SR powered 240 taking on a slower car? Last time I checked, a car with 30 more hp, RWD, and same weight as a slower, FWD car, will win.

2.Why do people say "I'm all stock", then proceed to list their mods? ( intake, exhaust, etc. ) Stock means factory, unmolested, unchanged. By definition, modifications mean to change what is not OEM. I've seen the term "stock" thrown around incorrectly all the time around here. Intakes, exhausts, blah blah, they are bolt on modifications. So if you have an exhaust, your car is not stock.

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RobDET
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<-- didn't say his car was stock...

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yeah, i know, i was referring to ItzGenX Quote »My 95' 240SX SE with KA did 15.5 all stock, just intake and exhaust. 2.22 60ft and 87mph[/quote]

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he's saying his engine is stock EXCEPT for intake exhaust...

I got it... :)

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Wuss wrote:1.Why do people always blame super street


I don't call it 'Stupid Street' for nothin'... It's one of the worst publications I have ever picked up, and wasted my time reading. IMO, people blame said publication due to its overwhelmingly large customer base of 'rice bois'. I'm not saying all who read this mag. are dumbasses, just 90% percent of them.

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i'll admit i don't like super street. I'm an SCC guy myself. I also really like GRM.

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RobDET wrote:i'll admit i don't like super street. I'm an SCC guy myself. I also really like GRM.


werd

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yeah, we all know the real enthusiasts read grassroots. I mean, everyone knows to pick up a copy of GRM when you see another car guy at Barnes and Nobles right? Don't want to look like a dork!:rolleyesI love GRM as well as SCC, but I also pick up I2NR and SS for the hell of it. ( I dont pay for any of this, i just sit my butt down and read for 2 hours ). I don't pick up the latter 2 for informational reasons, but I can still appreciate looking at cars for entertainment value.

Besides, 99% of the cars featured in SS, as much as you make fun of them, you can and will never be able to own or build.

Don't get me wrong, I'm the first to jump all over anything remotely close to rice, but get off your high horse and stop acting you never picked up an issue.

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i love super street! they got great pictures!

no comment on the articles...

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Ditto on that.

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once again taken out of context. I never said that i have never read super street. Just that i don't care for it.

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once again, my post wasn't directed towards you Robdet :pface


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