short ram or full intake?

Post by **DarkStar** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

I've been pricing and trying to find out information on the two (short ram and full air intakes) for the past week or so, with no luck. So if any of you guys could tell me which one is better (performance-wise) it would be a big help. Thanks.

Post by **Nathan** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

Lets see...short ram = sucking large amounts of hot underhood air into the engine. Full COLD AIR intake = sucking large amounts of much cooler, freshly ventilated air into the engine. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you'll probably see the best performance gain from the full intake

Don't expect it to add HUGE amounts of power though, the best you can really hope for is about 7hp at the wheels. The best part is that it sounds wicked cool.

Post by **rco8786** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

7hp is pushing it. go with the cold one.

Post by **MOTOP** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

Dark Star,

Get ShortRAM and make your own extension for it. Look for my post in KA24E/DE forum.

Post by **DarkStar** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

Much thanks for the feedback guys, I really appreciate it. I'm still kinda new to this whole thing since the last car I had was a 93' subaru legacy, with the only aftermarket part being an intake....and that was the ONLY thing you could get for it. But thanks.

Post by **Hijacker** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

just remember to be careful when it rains if you go with the cold air. with it down in the fender well, it'll suck up water if it rains too much. the SRI should be fine as long as you mount it near where the stock box was. a cold air inlet is in that section of the hood, so you'll get your cold air anyways.

Checkered-Member · Post by **Checkered-Member** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

I have an Injen Short Ram, and it is much louder then any CAI (full intake), and there is no danger of sucking up water, HP gain are pretty much the same maybe you’ll get an extra 1-2 hp with cold (remember the engine has to suck air from 4 feet of tubes while a short ram is no longer then a foot.)

Post by **canadians14** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

i agree with checkered but if you are planning to go cold air ... aem makes a bypass valve that won't let any water in ever .... sport compact car did a test on it and it did not injest any water completely submerged

Post by **float_6969** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

AEM CAI.

Post by **Hijacker** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

The age old argument of CAI over SRI. Go with what you feel is best. As stated, both types have their plusses and minuses.

I am interested in this AEM bypass valve. Got a link to a review on it?

Post by **whiterps13** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

I have the injen short ram, and im happy with it. IMO paying an extra 100 for the CAI extension is not worth the 1-2 hp youll get. It sounds way cool under full throttle, and it will never ingest water into your engine. Thats usually a good thing.

Post by **canadians14** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

heres the link for the review http://www.sportcompactcarweb.....html

Post by **Turb0wned** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

go with a cold air the only bad thing about it is that water can get in....

Checkered-Member · Post by **Checkered-Member** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

here is the thing with the bypass valve:

You are still sucking hot air threw that filter, which kills the point of having a CAI in the first place.

you loose hp because the bypass valve creates turbulences, and the cold air is barely coming threw, because it has to go threw 4 feet of tubing, and be mixed with hot air.

Might as well get a SRI, get more power and save a few bucksNissan performance magazine talked about how bas it is for performance

Checkered-Member · Post by **Checkered-Member** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

95ka24de wrote:go with a cold air the only bad thing about it is that water can get in....

DUDE...

Which will only crate hydro-lock, only bend a few rods and only bend the drive shaft

Post by **Hijacker** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

Checkered-Member wrote:DUDE...

Which will only crate hydro-lock, only bend a few rods and only bend the drive shaft

jeez. you make it sound like a bad thing

Post by **Nathan** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

Come on, what's a few bent rods...that's like 20 bucks to fix at pep boys, just slap a few stickers on and your good to go!

Post by **ShadowKnight006** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

Doesn't K&N make a little cover that slips over the filter of a CAI to keep water out but only reduces air flow slightly?

Checkered-Member · Post by **Checkered-Member** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

ShadowKnight006 wrote:Doesn't K&N make a little cover that slips over the filter of a CAI to keep water out but only reduces air flow slightly?

Nope that’s a heat shield if you have a SRI it helps suck more cold air then warmAnd if you have a CAI it gathers the air, kinda acts like a ram air thingy

Post by **Nathan** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

I swear I've seen that thing too...it's kinda waterproof but doesn't cut the air down too much (sounds like a contradition to me)

Post by **float_6969** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

ok fine, make your own CAI. Move the battery and run it right down into the passenger side fender well. Short, Cold, Minimal Bends. Water could be a problem, but only if you're a friggin idiot. Honestly, how many of you here would see a big puddle of water, and think, "Man, I'll bet I can drive through that with out totally screwing up my motor by submerging my filter..."? I would certainly hope none. I think most of us would avoid the named puddle at all costs.

Post by **ShadowKnight006** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:46 am

Nathan- I am looking but I think its only for their typhoon intake, bummer

Checkered-What we were talking about is like a material "sock" kind of thing, not the metal shield.

Float- wouldn't the winshield resevoir get in the way?

short ram or full intake?

short ram or full intake?

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