Shopping help plz

[Sentientbydesign]

Ok guys. Here's my shopping list. I'll probably only be getting 1 of these at a time, but I was hoping for sources to get the best prices.

UR Non-underdrive pulleys (preferably the whole set)

Intake- I'm on the fence about which one. I don't like the look of the Stillen/JWT-Z-tube combos, but my buddy at infiniti told me they see better gains than the AEM/Injen style intakes.

I can get the Stillen/z-tube for $228. I'm looking for something a little cheaper if possible.

Grounding wires- Should I just take the plunge with the Grounding Gear? I'm not really happy about paying $130-$150 on some wires, but the eBay crap just looks horrible (I could make something better looking).

[SVTCOBRA]

stillen's wires are on sale for 89

I contacted the G man at groundinggear to see if would match.

He said 'no', and it sounds like they may have a price increase soon.....

I have the Z-tube & K&N with bottom baffle removed......not sure I'm crazy about having a whistle under the hood....

Z-tube was a 350Z take-off at Nissan that I got for $15 - check your local Nissan to see if they've NISMO'ed a Z and have a Z-tube laying around.

[Beancooker]

I was looking into ordering a set from Grounding Gear, but WTF is up with the money order crap? No CC, no paypal. That is weak sauce.

Makes me hesitant on ordering.

Personally I say JWT/ztube. Looks so-so, but sounds great!

[rn79870]

I don't know why a guy couldn't make his own ground wire system. All you have to do is look at the connections on an existing system, then custom cut and solder the wires to fit. And I don't think it would do much good on a relatively new car. Once the OM wires get a little old, and the resistance increases, I can see an advantage.

The Apexi system has a little block box with their system, that regulates the system. I'd look into that one.

[G_whizz]

Well...if the Stillen is on sale for $89... go for the Stillen..it can't be THAT different from Gordons. I am really anxious for someone to do this mod on their 6MT first and give feedback.

I don't know why some of you don't like the look of the JWT... I personally love it!

As for the pulley's... this is another mod I have been on the fence about for eons.

It's been awhile since I spoiled myself and bought a mod so I'm getting itchy.

As for the prices...I have shopped around and found that everything35.com is pretty damn comparable to anywhere else.

Let us know what you decide on first!

[smockers83]

GroundingGear is totally legit. Method of payment shouldn't scare you away, you can also do a certified check as well that can be cashed in Canadian (that's the route I went with). That's no different than buying a car in cash. Maybe he's just not set up to do Paypal or CC over the Internet. What you're paying for is not only the wires, but the time spent on R&D for finding the best way to arrange the wires. A grounding kit will work very well on a new car, the much larger gauge wires of the kit provides much better signal transfer by greatly reducing resistance.

Personally I like the way the Pop Charger looks and have it on mine, so I by default am going to vote for that. I also don't like the design of the Fujita intake as the filter is tucked away from direct airflow coming through the hood, at least that's what I remember seeing from pictures. JWT claims a consistant 6.5 HP at the wheels. You can get the whole setup and a can of filter oil for $195.

[rn79870]

Just out of curosity, would a Non-underdrive pulleys be an overdrive pulley? You want a smaller crank pulley that turns the accessories slower right? (more engine RPMs per belt RPM) Nitpick here, but wouldn't that be an underdrive pulley?

[Sentientbydesign]

GroundingGear is totally legit. Method of payment shouldn't scare you away, you can also do a certified check as well that can be cashed in Canadian (that's the route I went with). That's no different than buying a car in cash. Maybe he's just not set up to do Paypal or CC over the Internet. What you're paying for is not only the wires, but the time spent on R&D for finding the best way to arrange the wires. A grounding kit will work very well on a new car, the much larger gauge wires of the kit provides much better signal transfer by greatly reducing resistance.

Personally I like the way the Pop Charger looks and have it on mine, so I by default am going to vote for that. I also don't like the design of the Fujita intake as the filter is tucked away from direct airflow coming through the hood, at least that's what I remember seeing from pictures. JWT claims a consistant 6.5 HP at the wheels. You can get the whole setup and a can of filter oil for $195.

My wife has an AEM true CAI in her Celica. I'm also used to seeing sexy piping and sweet filter shapes. The JWT looks like something that came out of Star Wars...Oh $#IT. Can a mod move this thread to the Politics forum. I just made it political

The Stillen wires are a possibility. I wish the pulleys were so damned expensive though.

[smockers83]

I was under the impression that a non-underdrive pulley was like an OEM pulley, just lighter.

[rn79870]

I was under the impression that a non-underdrive pulley was like an OEM pulley, just lighter.

The theory used to be that a smaller crank pulley turned the accessories slower, therefore, less power was required, freeing up that saved power to go to the drive line. That's why I questioned whether he wanted an overdrive pulley (would turn the belt more per engine rpm therefore more accessory rpm.) or an underdrive pulley.

I can't see any real advantage in just using a lighter pulley.

[Sentientbydesign]

UR advertises 7-11 HP or something around those numbers with the non-underdrive system.

I have different plans than most for their Gs. I'm looking at performance mods that have the added benefit of Fuel Economy.

So right now, I'm contemplating, the intake, UR pulleys, grounding kit, and a synthetic overhaul (engine, transmission, differential).

Anybody with a ground wire setup wanna take some measurements for me? I'm going to attempt to make one, then I'll start producing them and sellling them at around $100 or a little less

[rn79870]

Tat was my point. If they are advertising a non-underdrive then it must be normal size, or larger. Either way, there would be no advantage that I can see in adding it. Even if it took a few ozs. off the stock weight, the gain, if at all, would be negligible. For it to gain 7 to 11 HP it would have to slow down the accessories, and that would be underdrive. (and 7 to 11 would be a stretch)

What is the diameter of a stock pulley and what is the diameter of theirs?

[Sentientbydesign]

They have both Stock Diameter and Under-drive pulley systems.

I just called. Stock pulley set is 7lbs 8.6oz. The UR Stock Diameter set is 3lbs 9oz.

So there's a rotating weight savings of just shy of 4lbs (most of it is probably towards the center and not the outer diameter, but weight is weight).

The sales guy claimed 8-12 HP gains.

Anybody interested in a group buy???

[rn79870]

8 to 12 HP due to 4 lbs. I'll bet it only works if you get the red ones and the little blue stickers for the back window.

The underdrive do work a little, I can see maybe a 5 hp regained, but the stock ones, the guy is fulla

[grantman240z]

I like the look of the Stillen intake...more stock looking than the JWT. Take a gander at mine next weekend!

[Sentientbydesign]

I like the look of the Stillen intake...more stock looking than the JWT. Take a gander at mine next weekend!

Will do!!!

8 to 12 HP due to 4 lbs. I'll bet it only works if you get the red ones and the little blue stickers for the back window.

The underdrive do work a little, I can see maybe a 5 hp regained, but the stock ones, the guy is fulla

Dynos can be fudged, but the 3.5L Maxima showed 9 ponies and 11 ft lbs . It was a very nice consistent increase (which it should be).

[pae9132]

hey sentient...I noticed that you are in riverside...If you are like me then you hate having to wait for the parts to arrive so if you are willing to drive a little then you can get your parts from Stillen in Costa Mesa. I pick up my parts from there all of the time. Most of the stuff they sell is usually in stock and they will also price match!!! Plus they have cool cars in the parking lot

[av8or]

hey sentient...I noticed that you are in riverside...If you are like me then you hate having to wait for the parts to arrive so if you are willing to drive a little then you can get your parts from Stillen in Costa Mesa. I pick up my parts from there all of the time. Most of the stuff they sell is usually in stock and they will also price match!!! Plus they have cool cars in the parking lot

same here.. i drove to stillen to get my grounding kit... hate to wait... saving up for their exhaust...

[SVTCOBRA]

same here.. i drove to stillen to get my grounding kit... hate to wait... saving up for their exhaust...

Are you please with the Stillen grounding kit?

Could you tell a noticeable difference??

[tollboothwilley]

They have both Stock Diameter and Under-drive pulley systems.

I just called. Stock pulley set is 7lbs 8.6oz. The UR Stock Diameter set is 3lbs 9oz.

So there's a rotating weight savings of just shy of 4lbs (most of it is probably towards the center and not the outer diameter, but weight is weight).

The sales guy claimed 8-12 HP gains.

Anybody interested in a group buy???

GROUP BUY!!

Less ratating weight = less lost power to heat/belts

Well...if the Stillen is on sale for $89... go for the Stillen..it can't be THAT different from Gordons. I am really anxious for someone to do this mod on their 6MT first and give feedback.

I don't know why some of you don't like the look of the JWT... I personally love it!

As for the pulley's... this is another mod I have been on the fence about for eons.

It's been awhile since I spoiled myself and bought a mod so I'm getting itchy.

As for the prices...I have shopped around and found that everything35.com is pretty damn comparable to anywhere else.

Let us know what you decide on first!

WHizz...

I'm awaiting my new sway bars tomorrow. I've read up a lot about them and I'm told they are definitely one of the best mods/dollar.

I'll let you know. Stillen has them on sale right now...$279

[C-Kwik]

Less ratating weight = less lost power to heat/belts

As Sentient said, the weight is fairly close to the center of rotation. Assuming the volume of material is roughly the same, the moment of inertia would also be similar. In any case, I really can't picture much of a power gain unless it actually underdrives the accessories...

[G_whizz]

Sweet... let me know what you think!

[rn79870]

Do you really think Infiniti wouldn't shave 4 pounds off the pulleys if doing that would net another 8 HP? Wouldn't cost Infiniti a cent to do so it. Same with many of the other items. I understand why they would be weary of going to underdrive, but not lighter pulleys.

[Beancooker]

Infiniti won't be putting in aluminum pullies, since you have to have it perfectly balanced. That costs a lot more than an old faithful steel pully with a harmonic balancer on it.

[av8or]

Are you please with the Stillen grounding kit?

Could you tell a noticeable difference??

for $89? hell yeah... ... any noticable difference? well, my horn is louder now...

[eZg001]

GROUP BUY on the pullie set +1!!!!!!!

[rn79870]

for $89? hell yeah... ... any noticable difference? well, my horn is louder now...

Heheh. That one I believe.

Frankly, I think the rest of the guys would find more performance gains adding new grid squares, or running liquid atmosphere in the fuel tank, instead of changing pulleys.

[SVTCOBRA]

for $89? hell yeah... ... any noticable difference? well, my horn is louder now...

Well, I was hoping for a little more than pimping my horn...

[Sentientbydesign]

Do you really think Infiniti wouldn't shave 4 pounds off the pulleys if doing that would net another 8 HP? Wouldn't cost Infiniti a cent to do so it. Same with many of the other items. I understand why they would be weary of going to underdrive, but not lighter pulleys.

Actually, No. I don't think Infiniti would. There are a lot of "cheap" mods that improve power and decrease weight that they could have done, but they don't.

Obviously from the overwhelming reviews, Infiniti's grouding is comical.

CNCing balanced aluminum pulleys is more expensive and requires even more R&D to Infiniti than casting some steel.

Same goes for the exhaust. Sure they could have squeezed another 15HP out of the exhaust, but at the price of more R&D and a hell of a lot of sound (sound that the little old mexican lady driving the red G yesterday wouldn't have wanted).

Bolt-ons wouldn't be available if the manufacturers always maximized performance.

[av8or]

Well, I was hoping for a little more than pimping my horn...

nothing compensates the loud exhaust tone the g35 makes than a good, strong, well grounded horn up front... honk! honk!... get out of the way!!

but seriously, i just got my engine oil changed recently and coupled with adding the grounding kit, i would say the car has a better throttle response...