sequential shifter

[acside]

anyone know anything about sequential shifters? how well do they work and are they hard to install. i am talking about the ones that i see being sold for around 3k

[Joe]

good god why?

what a waste of money

[themadscientist]

If you mean the Ikeya Formula ones that bolt onto a stock transmission they work. They still require you to put the clutch in though. All those really do is use a drum with keyways to convert foward and rearward shifter motion in up and down, left and right down at the transmission. If you mean a real sequential dog mission that that is the shizzy!

[sil_eightyRPS13]

If you mean the Ikeya Formula ones that bolt onto a stock transmission they work. They still require you to put the clutch in though. All those really do is use a drum with keyways to convert foward and rearward shifter motion in up and down, left and right down at the transmission. If you mean a real sequential dog mission that that is the shizzy!

theres nothing wrong with still having to use the clutch. up and down while drifting is still easier than finding that belove'd 3rd gear...lol but i have a OS GIKEN cross-misson gear set so, i dont have that problem...woot but id still liek to go up and down...those damn HKS trannies start at 8g's i believe, and go up from there

[acside]

if using one of the Ikeya Formula ones how fast can it shift. and if i wanted to drop 2 gears quick could i just pull it twice and be 2 gears lower. also does it say what gear you are in

[RB_Dreamin]

please stop

[ISUJinX]

Yes. If you pull back twice, it will drop two gears in a sequentially shifted application. I would suggest being a very good driver and having lots of extra money burning a hole in your pocket first. Most sequential setups that are any good at taking racing abuse are dog face engagement - IE no syncros, and thus revmatching is particularly important, and life span is shortened. Basically... if you are asking the questions and dont know enough or haven't done your research... you dont need it or aren't ready to buy it. I can't see sequential being much of an upgrade in "dorifto". Though admittedly I don't know jack about drifting besides the general principle. If you are doing drag - you should think about drag automatics or Lenco lever systems.

[positron1]

Don't know anything about them except that they are EXPENSIVE! Race-On has one for a S13 for $10,000 dollars...WTF!!!

[Sil240]

Are you getting it for a Car show??You'll probably get madd crazy jdm points for that, but for racing that Ikeya Formula shifter is not necessary.If you really want it get it, but your going to have a shifter that costs more than your transmission.If you were really into racing then I would take that JDM tyte shifter money and put it into building up your trans.

Either that or you can get some B&M stickers and maybe some HKS stickers. It'll make your trans hold more torque and take more abuse. LOL :-)

[skillzilla]

Look at how many pro Drift drivers use a sequential transmission? Anyone?

[CursedGTR]

The Ikeya Shifter is alright, I have seen it in action and have not really been impressed. I was however, pretty impressed with the NISMO short shifter pretty solid piece of gear. Stillen makes one that will be partially sequential for about 600.00 (up to 4th gear) and the Ikeya is about 1,000.00 - 1200.00 depended upon application if I remember correctly the RB25DET one was about 130,000 yen which is roughly 1180.00 (that price is here in Japan, so god knows how much the ricer boys are paying for that crap in the states) I have not seen the stillen in person and cannot give a comparison of the two but the Ikeya one does come with a cute little LED deal that will tell you what gear you are in.

Sequential Trannies are totally different from a shifter and I believe he is asking about a shifter. But I have seen great results with Sequential Trannies on GTR's, Silvia's, FD's and the like but then again if I was in the states I would most likely go with a Lenco, Liberty, Jericho or what have you. However, here in Japan when building a project with parts like sequential missions, trust me the owners do not even blink at the price of the HKS, Holinger, Trust, OS Giken (the OS 88 is a sequential Box for the GTR) or other available boxes that are bolt on for their application.

Drift Cars using Sequential Missions off of the top of my head, I believe the Kazaama car had one, Signal uses one in their 15, HKS uses one, I am pretty Sure Greddy is using one, and there are a few others but I am in Iraq and do nto have the ability to start opening old Option Magazines to look for them all.

[TOPSECRT88]

I went to the Ikeya Formula website and watched some of their video's they had using the shifter. Its pretty cool, and my only question is...how can you go to neutral? Would you have to downshift all the way?

EDIT: Here are the vids in case anyone else wants to watch..it brings you to the home page so go to product information then seqen shifter.

http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/en/index.html

[themadscientist]

I think so. They are clunky though. I tried one in a guy's GT-R and you had to rack it hard or it would hangup between gears. Maybe he needed to lube the drum tracks or something. Stillway makes a shifter with spring-loaded rails that aim the shifter into the next gear for you but it's pricey as well. Might I suggest you learn how to shift and save yourself some money. I can shift as fast as another guy with an Ikeya with the stock shifter and H pattern.If it is not a true sequential transmission it's just good for "wow" factor.

[sil_eightyRPS13]

I went to the Ikeya Formula website and watched some of their video's they had using the shifter. Its pretty cool, and my only question is...how can you go to neutral? Would you have to downshift all the way?

EDIT: Here are the vids in case anyone else wants to watch..it brings you to the home page so go to product information then seqen shifter.

http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/en/index.html

good question about neutral prolly all the way down, or maybe a button or something....and yes there is a bunch of drift cars running sequental shifters, usually the higher sponsored ones..aka expensive option..

[ISUJinX]

You push the clutch in to go into neutral!!