Selling race civic for 240sx

Post by **turboex** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

ok, I found a 92 240sx in good condition with no motor for $500 and i decided to sell my fully built turbo civic for it. heres my ride on ebay as we speak http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 1863164566 IM gonna do the turbo silvia motor setup. right now my civic runs easy 13's at 259hp, how much hp does it take for a 240 do do the same? Am i crazy or are these cars worth it? See right now i still pay on my civic so i want a car with no payments.

Post by **95exludesi** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

where do you live? i have a n/a civic that would be a good race for you

Post by **turboex** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

i live in minot ND. what times does your pull? so is the 240 a good idea?

Post by **SpeedRacer1** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

turboex wrote:i live in minot ND. what times does your pull? so is the 240 a good idea?

Minot??! thats gotta suck are you in the military?! The 240SX with an SR(red) is gonna be low 15's to high 14's stock so you shouldnt have any trouble at all getting 13's. If you get an S15 engine you'll be starting off with about 225-230 rwhp from the start.

Post by **95exludesi** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

damn, ND, too far :b. i live in dallas tx. the civic has hit 13.4 with iffy tires.

Post by **S13240** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

turboex wrote:ok, I found a 92 240sx in good condition with no motor for $500 and i decided to sell my fully built turbo civic for it. heres my ride on ebay as we speak http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 1863164566 IM gonna do the turbo silvia motor setup. right now my civic runs easy 13's at 259hp, how much hp does it take for a 240 do do the same? Am i crazy or are these cars worth it? See right now i still pay on my civic so i want a car with no payments.

I think that's a good buy, let's put it this way...if you spent all that money into a 240sx instead of the civic you had...you'd probably be in the 12s or 11s already. But yes go with the 240sx...I'm sure it's a better project than the civic.

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

we have an all motor civic running 11.80's : )

http://www.b20vtec.com

Jesse

back to topic....figure 6k or so if your doing it yourself, and have good resources...could cost up to 8k.

Post by **Cyberkreig** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

Man, I never bust on peoples cars... BUT... Even if that car is 7 years newer than mine, and has more HP than my SR.. I wouldnt trade my 240 for it.. I wouldnt trade for 2 of them.

Good luck sellin it man.. but honestly, the only people that want it are kids rollin in 92 civics with $200 catbacks.

Post by **turboex** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

Good luck sellin it man.. but honestly, the only people that want it are kids rollin in 92 civics with $200 catbacks.

I dont understand this statment? My civic runs low 12s on drag radials and 13s on street tires with a full interior, and full tank of gas. It made a +350hp pull on the dyno with pump gas at 19psi of boost. Its a car you can drive to work everyday and then take to the track. I know i wount pull the same power out of a 240sx even with the turbo motor, for the same price as i can in the civic. But i dont want a car thats this fast anymore. I now have a child and honestly my car is hard to drive on the street at only 10psi. So i kinda want to give the autox thing a try.Please help me understand that statment you made...

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

umm...you could prolly pull 350+hp for less than 10k if you know what you are doing and if you install stuff yourself, because that saves a lot of labor cost. How much total did you spend on that honda? including initial car cost, etc? Like over 20,000 i bet. Damn if i had that kind of budget on a 240 my car would easily be running 500-600 hp.

Post by **95exludesi** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

i dunno how much his car cost, but my civic was about 11k including the car

Post by **Cyberkreig** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

turboex wrote:Good luck sellin it man.. but honestly, the only people that want it are kids rollin in 92 civics with $200 catbacks.

I dont understand this statment?

I simply ment that the only people that want hondas, own hondas. And the only people that want a fixed up honda, are poor kids that can't afford it.. after all.. thats why they own hondas..

Post by **turboex** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

damn i have been on honda boards for 3years and never heard any nissan hating but i come here and theres tons of honda hating. whats up with that?

Post by **95exludesi** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

its mostly just ignorance, all sides have their strong points...afterall, what is the fastest naturally aspirated nissan you have seen? 4 cyl at that?

Post by **Cyberkreig** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

turboex wrote:damn i have been on honda boards for 3years and never heard any nissan hating but i come here and theres tons of honda hating. whats up with that?

Dont take it the wrong way, its not you, its not even honda, its the average owner. If anyone buys a nissan and straps a buncha plastic crap to it, i'll hate that too. Your civic has crazy engine work, i hope you bring that know-how to your new nissan.

Sure, your honda civic kicks ***.. it is maybe one of 10 in the world that do. I just hate to see these local economy-car-racer kids encouraged. come to York County, PA. You will understand.

Post by **turboex** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

dont worry man, we have our fair share of rice boys up here to. Even if i dont sell my civic ill stil be getting the 92" 240sx this week, and then i gotta order the motor for it, so im sure you guys will see me around. As for how much money is in my civic, 20grand is real close. About 15grand new and a ton of mods. i kinda want to keep the 240 all race and no show, i might even give the drifting stuff a try. I took a spin at an autox track up here a few weeks ago and with 17inch rims on my car is still just spun them when the gas was mashed. High HP fwd cars suck at track racing, but on the highway. you can beat 350hp in a 2600 car. I have no found a production car that i cant destroy on the streets, my neighbor has a z06 vette and even he has trouble keeping up. He gets me in topend, but 0-100 his all mine. Ill have to post the vid up.

Post by **95exludesi** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

turboex, i would i recommend stiffening the rear suspension to keep pressure up on the back and down on the front during the weight transfer

Post by **A51_RPS13** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

I don't hate hondas, i give hondas a lot of props. But for me, and overall, RWD will always out-do a FWD. True, w/ the money you've already spent on the honda, you could have a 12 sec. 240sx on street tires, it's too late, but if you are going to start over, the 240sx is a very good way to go. I can hit a 14.5 almost completly stock ( FMIC, custom 2" downpipe mated to stock exhaust. ) . Depending on who installs the motor, will determine the ET you can hit stock. Thats is my own opinion and i hope that it helps you out. Good luck. Peace

Post by **Cyberkreig** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

I hate hondas =). Except the S2000.. damn that car is sweet. I guess after reading about your car on ebay, i owe you something of an apology. Your not the average owner, and that isnt the average civic. I hope you can understand my frusteration when I hear "I have a civic, but I want a 240!". All I hear is "Instead of putting this big stupid aluminum wing on my economy car, I wanna slap it on a car with a ton of potential!"

Nissan Family Pride, You Understand.

Post by **turboex** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

this will be my forth nissan, ive had a 91 hard body pickup94 hardbodyand a 91 300zx twin turbo. i got ride of the 300 due to the cost of performance parts. i just so much to make it faster. i hope the 240 will be easier to work on too cause the 300 was a biatch

Post by **minoru** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

Quote »--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by turboex Good luck sellin it man.. but honestly, the only people that want it are kids rollin in 92 civics with $200 catbacks.

I dont understand this statment? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I simply ment that the only people that want hondas, own hondas. And the only people that want a fixed up honda, are poor kids that can't afford it.. after all.. thats why they own hondas..[/quote]I own an integra, does this mean I'm a poor kid? If you think honda enthusiast are just a bunch of poor kids modding their cars with wings and kits your wrong. I actually think the nissan group takes easier to rice than the real honda enthusiast's, I recently saw a post about this guy and his car, guess he decided on showing his rice 240 with aluminum spoiler, no one flamed him. Now if you were to do the same thing on h-t.com you'd get flamed up hole.

You think the only people that want honda's own them, you want an s2k does this mean you own a honda? Since when were people considered to be "poor kids" if they wanted a fixed up nsx, which cost up words of 90k brand new from the dealer?

Cyberkreig wrote:I hate hondas =). Except the S2000.. damn that car is sweet. I guess after reading about your car on ebay, i owe you something of an apology. Your not the average owner, and that isnt the average civic. I hope you can understand my frusteration when I hear "I have a civic, but I want a 240!". All I hear is "Instead of putting this big stupid aluminum wing on my economy car, I wanna slap it on a car with a ton of potential!"

what about an nsx, which would blow the doors right off an s2000

Post by **Cyberkreig** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

Acura is not Honda. The same way Infinity is not Nissan. They may be the same parent company, and they may share some aspects of parts/design. But Nissan cars are not built on the same level as Infinity.. same goes for Honda and Acura.

How you can say that Nissan takes easier to rice than Honda, I do not know. I do accept that there are ricers in *every* group.. but no car is more covered with plastic crap than the civic. If you read a later post, I pointed out that I hate Nissan rice even more, b/c I feel its destroying a better car.

As for my comment about 'everyone that wants one..' it was poorly worded. The point I was trying to get is this, He has spent a large amount of money on this car, and is asking something like 14K. Not many people can afford to drop 14k. And the people that would *really* want a 300hp civic, are kids that can't afford it..

If anyone else wants to flame, flame away. But note, I am bustin on Honda, not Acura. I *do* respect honda for what it is, an excellent, economy car. I appologised to turboex, stating that his car has the power to demand respect. I disrespect anyone who is show over go.

Post by **minoru** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

Cyberkreig wrote:Acura is not Honda. The same way Infinity is not Nissan. They may be the same parent company, and they may share some aspects of parts/design. But Nissan cars are not built on the same level as Infinity.. same goes for Honda and Acura.

How you can say that Nissan takes easier to rice than Honda, I do not know. I do accept that there are ricers in *every* group.. but no car is more covered with plastic crap than the civic. If you read a later post, I pointed out that I hate Nissan rice even more, b/c I feel its destroying a better car.

As for my comment about 'everyone that wants one..' it was poorly worded. The point I was trying to get is this, He has spent a large amount of money on this car, and is asking something like 14K. Not many people can afford to drop 14k. And the people that would *really* want a 300hp civic, are kids that can't afford it..

If anyone else wants to flame, flame away. But note, I am bustin on Honda, not Acura. I *do* respect honda for what it is, an excellent, economy car. I appologised to turboex, stating that his car has the power to demand respect. I disrespect anyone who is show over go.

infinity might not be built on the same level as nissan, but that doesn't mean honda's aren't built on the same level as acura. Your reason might be that most infinity cars are built in america, same goes for honda, but there are rules and specs to follow when building a car, weather it be in a america or japan. As for honda's and acura's sports cars (integra, nsx, s2k, civic) most of them are built in japan while the family car's like accords and mdx's are built in america, so you can't really say either branch has a lower level of build quality, cause they both share sporty cars.

Nissan and Infinity may be different in the fact that most of their sports cars that are sold in america are built in america.

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

well to me, Acura is honda....as Infinity is Nissan....Lexus is Toyota, etc etc....maybe sports devisions, or luxury devisions, but still.....

If you live in Japan, do they even have acura dealerships??

Isnt a NSX Type R a honda?

You know those video's honda releases of the Type R vs. the Silvia....Honda releases those videos...

acura is honda.

Post by **Cyberkreig** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

DSM -- Excellent point.. I couldn't answer about acura dealerships in japan.. but here in the US an NSX, Legend and 3.2 are all Acura, and represent a higher quality (and dollar amount) than the Civic or the Prelude.

Minoru -- Right, but the Civic is not a sports car. Its an economy car, an excellent economy car.. It was designed and built to last forever and get great MPG.

Either way, you are both missing my point about "acura is not honda" In this country, Acura represents a higher standard and a higher price tag, same as all the other sister companies. I'm sayin, dont use "infinity makes a $40,000, and they make my $20,000 240." To me, that is trying to make your car into something it isnt.. same as rice...

Post by **battyx** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

I've been on h-t.com for close to a year, and they don't do rice. Unfortunately, h-t.com is not anything like the streets. There are still idiot ricers in all forms of cars all over the streets. That's the way it's going to be. I consider a riced out supra just as lame as a riced out civic hb. If the owner doesn't understand what he's driving, and is only putting aesthetic mods on the car, he's a ricer.

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

Cyberkreig wrote:DSM -- Excellent point.. I couldn't answer about acura dealerships in japan.. but here in the US an NSX, Legend and 3.2 are all Acura, and represent a higher quality (and dollar amount) than the Civic or the Prelude.

Minoru -- Right, but the Civic is not a sports car. Its an economy car, an excellent economy car.. It was designed and built to last forever and get great MPG.

Either way, you are both missing my point about "acura is not honda" In this country, Acura represents a higher standard and a higher price tag, same as all the other sister companies. I'm sayin, dont use "infinity makes a $40,000, and they make my $20,000 240." To me, that is trying to make your car into something it isnt.. same as rice...

Yes, i didnt know you meant "in the US"....But like i said, if you have build a JDM type R in the US, your putting "H" (honda) badges on the car...in japan, everyone Type R i have seen (and im pretty sure) it IS a HONDA...just like the Honda Type R civic Hatch...

I dont even know if there is and Infinity in japan...i believe they are all nissans....

Yes in the US they use different names, because thats the american way...you have a different badge, and its a status symbol...same as US manufacturers did with Ford/Mercury, etc....

Get a Lexus IS300, cause its a "lexus"...in Japan, its a TOYOTA altezza....toyota, just like the Tercel, : ), but in the US they badge it a Lexus, for the status of having a LExus...i would bet most people dont realize its a Toyota, just like a lot of Inifity's dont know they are nissan...

Like i said, im not 100% and im sure the infinity guys could help, but i dont think there is any thing called an Infinity in Japan, its all badged under Nissan...but in the US its a status symbol to drive an infinity...

jesse

Post by **I 8 v8** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

Ricer? is that a Real Egnlish word? what does it mean?People have there own taste, you cant flame because they do something to there cars. Most of the time, Hondas with stickers all over are own by teenagers. They are young and they want to get into the groove with a Honda that was given by there parents. They cant afford a nice car like *240sx*. maybe they dont even know what a 240sx really is. Hondas make cheap suff and they only put couple hundred to the car, it could make a heads turner, well, not in a good way

. I give respect to every car on the road, wheather its a Ford or a Honda. If you are faster than me, you have a good car. If you slower than me, go home and do your Homework. *TurboEX*, that honda is sweeeeeet, If you in NJ/ Philly area, my friends might interested. Here in Philly, we have over 10 civics with b16a and b18a. Every friend of mine have civics mostly HB, all are b16/b18 powered and they are not *ricers*. Only me with SR powered 240sx :ylsuper and the fastest. 240sx is not easy to work on like civics but it will be easier than 300zx. It cost me $6000, couple days playing around with it and my car running mid 13 on G-tech Pro. With all that money you get from your civic, put $10,000 on the 240sx you'll go 12's or even 11's and its streetable too. Spend 2,000 more for supension and nice rims for autox and there you'll have an ultimate street/drag/auto/drifting/ vette killer

/etc.......By the way am also a teenager, but not a ricer or hater.:ylsuper peace......

Post by **minoru** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

I 8 v8 wrote:Ricer? is that a Real Egnlish word? what does it mean?People have there own taste, you cant flame because they do something to there cars. Most of the time, Hondas with stickers all over are own by teenagers. They are young and they want to get into the groove with a Honda that was given by there parents. They cant afford a nice car like *240sx*. maybe they dont even know what a 240sx really is. Hondas make cheap suff and they only put couple hundred to the car, it could make a heads turner, well, not in a good way . I give respect to every car on the road, wheather its a Ford or a Honda. If you are faster than me, you have a good car. If you slower than me, go home and do your Homework. *TurboEX*, that honda is sweeeeeet, If you in NJ/ Philly area, my friends might interested. Here in Philly, we have over 10 civics with b16a and b18a. Every friend of mine have civics mostly HB, all are b16/b18 powered and they are not *ricers*. Only me with SR powered 240sx :ylsuper and the fastest. 240sx is not easy to work on like civics but it will be easier than 300zx. It cost me $6000, couple days playing around with it and my car running mid 13 on G-tech Pro. With all that money you get from your civic, put $10,000 on the 240sx you'll go 12's or even 11's and its streetable too. Spend 2,000 more for supension and nice rims for autox and there you'll have an ultimate street/drag/auto/drifting/ vette killer /etc.......By the way am also a teenager, but not a ricer or hater.:ylsuper peace......

Very nicely put, I agree with you100%. I can't stand rice in any form, just hate it.

I just wanna say one thing thoug about costs, honda has put alot of money in r&d (research and development for those who don't already know) building an na (naturally aspired) engine. I'm not flaming nissan's but it does cost less to build a turbo powered engine with decent hp than a reliable fast na, just thought I'd clear the $ related issue up.

btw I own both honda and nissan(s13 240) and I enjoy both for what they were made to do, (handle greatly). I use both for mountain racing and road competition, this is where they both really shine.

OH yeah this is me at the bmw autocross event

Post by **steveredz32** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:03 pm

My first car project was a 96 civic hb dx. why? i'm poor and go to school. For 12 grand i had a show car. Than includes car. I ran high 13's mostly because of weight and intense detail in interior. The reason 'ricer kids' buy hondas is becuase they are the most dependable cars in my opinion, and you can treat them like S**t and they'll still go. My friend didnt change his oil for 36,000 miles on his 1990 accord with 286,000 miles before it gave out. My 300zx would collapse if i didn't change it exactly at 3000. Honda makes good cars, not good race cars IMO. Everybody gotta start somewhere..

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