Security Cameras?

[Pento240sx]

I was wondering if anybody knows a good website where they sell good security cameras or cheap prices.What I will probably need of a camera is: 7 to 16 Mile radius of signal, night vision and assessable from the internet.

-Pento

[Xdisaster240sX]

Sounds like a mission for...Bond...James Bond

[JimmyMethod]

How frequent do you need it to upload? Streaming video, or just, maybe every second or so? The latter is easy peazy, just set up a netbook within a wifi network and a small digital camera, and RD in. The former requires some hefty equipment. Uploading video live isn't a small feat, wirelessly, it might be impossible with any sort of quality.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

7 to 16 mile "radius of sight (??)"?

And night vision?

You're looking at military grade low-light cameras with those specifications. Bring your checkbook.

[JimmyMethod]

He said 'radius of signal'. I assume that means point of camera to point of user.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Signal radius shouldn't be a concern if you're looking for an internet uplink. One of the best ways to do internet video monitoring if you just want to check in from time to time is VPN. Just set up your DVR PC locally running software of your choice, and access it anywhere through the VPN. That way you get real-time feed anywhere when you need it, but you also have video written to the DVR machine in the event that something actually happens on camera.

Keep in mind that the resolution of most consumer-grade security cameras is terrible, and cheap ones are even worse.

[PoorManQ45]

With a signal distance that you're looking for expect to push $1k per camera.

OR you could go the right way and set up a commercial grade exterior AD-HOC wireless repeater. If you can maintain line of site from the repeater to the end location you can set up a directional antenna(think small satellite dish) and focus the signal on both ends.

Commercial repeaters are on the order of Watts, whereas consumer grade equipment is good for ~70mW.

[xfactor0707]

http://securitydistributors.com/. Just call and they will be willing to answer any questions you may have

[Beancooker]

Axis cameras. They are about as good as you can get, until you get into the really expensive stuff.

[Pento240sx]

Thanks everyone. The thing is that I'm setting up a surveillance for my cousin is for his house, night club and clothing store. The thing is the town is not that big so that what I mean for 6 to 14 mile radius from the camera to me. The thing is that in some places like the clothing store or house there is no INTERNET access so that is the only problem. I have a 5K to 15K budget from him, so I just want something good. Some of the Ideas are great and I really appreciated, I'm going to look into those.

[Dattebayo]

16 miles? haha

Anything over 1 mile is gonna require several megawatt transmitters that you can't put on a car. I mean, like imagine a giant radio tower's weak signal. And that would most likely be line-of-sight only. Anything gets in the way and it doesn't work. There are some low-powered COFDM transmitters (~microwave) that cops are using, but the most they go to with objects in the way is about 500ft or so.

Sounds like you have a pipe dream to me...

[PoorManQ45]

Not really.

He just needs to get to an internet connection.

There's probably one within 100yards of these places.

As long as the sender and receiver can get to the internet you have a nice link

[Urabus GodofTraction]

He said 'radius of signal'. I assume that means point of camera to point of user.

It said sight, unless I'm kakakarazy!

[Dattebayo]

Not really.

Yes really. You can't do a mile from a car, let alone more.

I used to do security for cops and for civilian applications. A wireless signal that even reaches out 100 yards is rare, and the amount of traffic it would require to stream the data would likely take over the connection. It would have to be a special directional antenna and probably some kind of repeater in between to get it to internet somewhere, and then you'd have to have your own connection for it to be reliable.

[snwbrdr435]

A store with no internet huh. Weird lol

[Pento240sx]

A store with no internet huh. Weird lol

Is in Mexico BTW.

[PoorManQ45]

Yes really. You can't do a mile from a car, let alone more.

A cell phone data plan could be used to tether the phone in the vehicle to a small laptop. That should work just fine

The store should be a little easier to figure out. Is there an internet connection anywhere around that you could tap in to?

[Dattebayo]

A cell phone data plan could be used to tether the phone in the vehicle to a small laptop. That should work just fine

You watch too many movies.

[numbnuts240]

You watch too many movies.

so "hackers" wasn't a documentary?

[PoorManQ45]

Not really.

I have my laptop tethered to my MyTouch all the time. Average speed is ~200KBps. With compression that is more then enough for low FPS streaming video.

[Dattebayo]

Maybe one screen shot every ten seconds, yeah... stationary only.

No options for motor control. That makes an Axis camera useless.

[PoorManQ45]

Check in to Android.

I can VNC in to my computer at home.

So if you have a computer at the shop as the DVR with motor control you use VNC to log in to that computer.

The delay is not to bad. From the cellphone, through the network, through my network, to the computer it's about a 5 second lag. But the actual information is displayed close to the same speed, just ~5 seconds later.

I will try watching youtube over VNC if you'd like me to test.

[Dattebayo]

What's your resolution?

[PoorManQ45]

The resolution on the computer is 1920x1200.

The resolution on the screen is 320 x 480.

The VNC starts zoomed all the way out so you can see the entire remote screen. Then you zoom in to areas.

[Dattebayo]

The camera resolution

[PoorManQ45]

I don't have a camera setup...

I am just talking about the remote viewing portion of the system. i have no information about cameras.

I am simply giving a setup that can be used for remote viewing and control of the DVR.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Dude I can help you out here, I've been installing CCTV setups for almost 3 years along with commercial/residential security and fire systems and access control. Camera systems are butter and actually a lot cheaper than most people think. The most expensive part is the DVR, the camera's on their own are relatively cheap. Let me know how many camera's you want, more than likely most people think they need more camera's than what they really do. I also need to know if you need indoor or outdoor camera's, if you want them to move on a set tour or not and what your budget is?

[Pento240sx]

I see. Well I will need Outdoor and maybe a few indoor wireless cameras with a good battery life. All of them have to be night vision or good low light settings and good video quality. The budget is around 10,000. To tell you the truth I don't know much about cameras, but I'm learning. I appreciate your help

[Chaotic_Warlord]

I see. Well I will need Outdoor and maybe a few indoor wireless cameras with a good battery life. All of them have to be night vision or good low light settings and good video quality. The budget is around 10,000. To tell you the truth I don't know much about cameras, but I'm learning. I appreciate your help

Ok CCTV run off of standard 110V DC current not batteries. They utilize power supplies much like those used for chargers. With a $10K budget you will be able to get some fairly higher end camera's. Deduct $1-2K for your DVR. Your standard indoor dome or bullet camera run from $150-300 a piece. Tamper proof domes are usually in the $500 range and they generally have a really good color picture and the IR is of excellent quality. Exterior camera's are more expensive due to their nature but still not as expensive as most think. For $8K (remember the DVR will be roughly $2K) can get some pretty awesome camera's and still have plenty left over for the Siamese cable and BNC connectors need to make it all work, plus be able to pick up a 12/24V power supply to power up all the camera's.

Camera's systems are the easiest systems to install, but they are very labor intensive because you have to pull a Siamese cable from each camera location to your head end (where your DVR and power supply are located). Plus if you are planning to run it over the internet for remote view ability you will need to run a Cat 5e from your DVR to your network hub.

You're going to need a BNC crimper to put the BNC's on each of the Siamese, If you are running to outdoor camera's you'll need a hammer drill and a 1/2" or 3/4" masonry bit to drill through the side of the building, plus a 1/4" masonry bit to drill the holes for the anchors to screw the camera's in to the wall.

Have you ever run wires before? It's generally a 2 man job depending on the size of the building that you're running the wires in. I can run a fairly large building by myself as long as I have a green stick and ceiling doesn't fight me, but I've been doing it for 3+ years. As far as adjusting the camera's to get the best picture possible, that is definitely a 2 man job unless you have a portable monitor.

My email is in my profile, please feel free to email me and I can totally help you out here. Under no circumstance DO NOT go cheap and get one of those CCTV systems that COSTCO sells, they are garbage and will haunt you when it comes time to trouble shoot and will wind up costing triple what you would pay if you did it right the first time. Look into PELCO and SPECO camera's, they are relatively cheap, have really good pictures, and are of good quality.

[PoorManQ45]

BNC connectors

BNC, what RCA should have been!

I love secure connections