SEARCHED! just swapped, running like sh*t. fuel pump whining after a while

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turbodcivic
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*** new probem***

so i get everything ready to go, i hop in ans try to put it into gear and i have NO gears at all... it will not go into any gears. i try to start it in gear and it just lunges forward...

i just need to see a picture of someones fuel line/filter setup. to see if my lines are on right. i switched them around and got it to rev past 3000rpms but idled like **** . then i put them on what i thought was right and i had NO throttle at all but idled really well

i need help!!! i need this car to run before 2pm today!!!
Modified by turbodcivic at 7:06 PM 8/12/2007


turbodcivic
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nothing huh??

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heres a video.


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looks like youve got them hooked up correctly. feed --> filter --> rail --> fpr --> return. tried running some good gas through it? are any of the injectors sticking? might want to run some seafoam through it and see if it clears anything up...

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oh, and whats your fuel pressure? is it steady or does it fluctuate?

turbodcivic
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which one is feed the top hardline with a slight bend, or the bottom hardline with the extreme bend?

. i had the lines run one way and it idled reallly nicely, but i had no pedal. when i would hit the gas it fell off completelty. and the fuel pump was whining really loud the there was wayyyy to much pressure

ill uplload another video of the good idle.



listen to the fuel pump. and when i hit the throttle it just dies

bias
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When I got my car together it ran like that. I had to put in some High octane gas, rewire my maf sensor, replace the plugs, and hook up the knock sensor. Check your ecu for codes that always help to find the problems.

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top one is feed, bottom one is return. try filling it up with gas that doesnt suck.

turbodcivic
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ok so i just got back from camping , im gonna try and get it running enough to get it to the gas station and get some better gas and some plugs. but what would explain the fuel pump to whine like that???

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ok , so it runs now and idles ok, it still seems like its missing a little.

BUT ********* a new problem i got everything together and i try to put it in gear and i have nothing.... it WILL NOT go into gear. i try starting it in gear and it lunges forward... any opinions??

ca18det240hatch
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make sure your clutch is properly bled, then move on to this step, which SOOOOOO MAANY PPL overlook. If you put in clutch and wont go into gear, chances are you need to adjust clutch freeplay. Look behind your pedal, where it connects to the rod that goes thru the firewall to the master clutch cyl. The bracket that connects the top of the pedal to the rod, theres a nut on it, which when you loosen it, allows you to spin the rod in or out. Spin it clockwise, so the threads on teh bracket disappear....

ca18det240hatch
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oh and btw what fuel pump did you use. I would NOT advice using the stock one even to limp around with. I had a friend i did a swap for, he insisted to leave the stocker in for awhile, killed it in 1 day with his SR20

get a walbro and a FPR if you can. Should NOT whine like that


turbodcivic
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ok so i just tried adjusting the pedal and i still got nothing, im going to try and bleed the system tommrow.

i shouldent have to tho, i never leaked it, all i did was unbolt it from my sohc transmission and bolt it up to the ca transmission...

oh and the fuel pump dosent whine anymore, i have a line hooked up wrong.

but i am throwing codes 13(ets)34(??)43(tps)

ca18det240hatch
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better check the items corresponding to those codes.......

if the pedal comes back on its own and theres pressure from top to bottom, it shouldnt need bleeding. Its really such a simple system tho, i cant see what else could be the problem. Are you sure you didnt turn the clutch adjustment the wrong way?


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34 is knock sensor.

turbodcivic
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yeah the pedal is fine , i have no idea why it wont go into gear..

could it be the shaft that go into the transmission maybe not in all the way?

i pulled my driveshaft out to remove the dust shield from my ca trannyand it dosent look like it goes in all the way . theres about 1.5 inches of shaft showing still.

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Did you take the transmission off before you put in the engine? Did you replace the oil with GL-4? Make sure you wire up the knock sensor. It's not in the lower harness on the ka24e. You will have to run it straight to the ecu or find the wire in the harness at the fuse box.

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i didnt take the transmission off before i put it in. i know i should have but i needed the car running for work / an event., but that proved to be problematic.

im gonna have to pull the motor out again and seperate it and see whats up. venus auto is sending me a new clutch and pressure plate overnight. ill update again tomorow.

and i didnt wire up the knock sensor, i was unaware i needed to. i just followed the wiring guide on frsport.com for the sr20 swap

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Yah. I think it's only the sohc 89-91 cars but you have to wire up the knock sensor to the ecu or if you can find it in the harness you can do it that way. It makes a big difference. I went through it when I did my swap. I read something saying the ecu adjusted things to run on low octane to protect the engine. Maybe someone else can give more info. I just know my car ran better with it wired up than without it. As far as the transmission "We all Learn from our Own Mistakes! I made a lot wih my swap, and still learning. Good luck, and keep us posted.

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after the first swap u should be able to have that dam thing out, apart,back together, back in in about a day. something is up with the clutch then. it can go into gear but not while the cars running right? so its not ur gears. if ur car lurched forward then ur engine and transmission are connected too so rule that out. ur clutch isnt disengaging so chec the throwout bearing. which throwout bearing did u use?

ca18det240hatch
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Sounds more like maybe the engine sat outside and hte clutch disc somehow siezed itself to the flywhee?


turbodcivic
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ca18det240hatch wrote:Sounds more like maybe the engine sat outside and hte clutch disc somehow siezed itself to the flywhee?
someone buy this man a drink.

ok so i pulled the motor again today. only took me like an hour.

pulled the clutch off and it indeed was seized to the flywheel. so i had that resurfaced, and the cluc\tch was actually really good too, and aftermarket 6 puck!

well i manage to get the engine bolted in but not running again yet.

ill post up tommorow if i get the car running and what goes on.

thanks for all your guys' help.

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ca18det240hatch wrote:Sounds more like maybe the engine sat outside and hte clutch disc somehow siezed itself to the flywhee?
Yep, I had the same think happen to my 4x4 suzuki samurai after a weekend of wheeling. I drove for about 4 miles with the clutch on the floor until it eventually broke off. Shifting with out using the clutch is not thhhat hard :D


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