sea foam???

[G'd up]

good day,

just curious if it would be okay to run some Sea foam or injector cleaner in with my gas next fill up. i know manufactureer only recommends dealer products but its like 30 bucks for a bottle i pour into my tank.

i know SEAFOAM works pretty well.

will this be okay to do without any damage ?

Or lucas oil fuel injector cleaner ??? What do you guys recommend??

thanks

[suby01]

ive used lucas fuel injector cleaner with my other cars cant say for the G's its 5 years old so i cant seem why it wouldnt help.

[Jacko3]

Lucas fuel injector cleaner works well. I have used it before. It is a non-solvent injector cleaner as recommended in the manuals of our cars. Frankly, your best advice would be to start using Chevron Supreme with Techron---beleive me when i say this gas is the best way to clean your injectors everyday. Just my 2 cents.

[G'd up]

yupp. chevron is all i use. ill run a bottle of lucas through my car and see what it does.

[tollboothwilley]

i use lucas injector cleaner every now and again.

I've also used the Seafoam in engine oil about 500 miles before i changed my oil.

I've never used it on the vacuum lines to clean out carbon build up, but i have heard it is very good.

i've never had any problems with my injectors...

[Jacko3]

How often do you flog the car? I ask becasue i see no reason to use Lucas Fuel Injector Cleaner. I think Chevron adds more Techron to their Supreme than their regular brand. So, with each fill up and constant flogging of the car, you should not have a need to use Lucas Injector Cleaner.

[Jacko3]

Toolboothwilley:

How is the little bundle of joy doing? Yep, if you ain't using Chevron gas everyday, then Lucas Injector cleaner every now and then, is okay.

[G'd up]

what do you mean by Flog???

i asked the dealership to do a fuel induction service when i first got the car but i didnt notice anything. as a matter of fact the dealership didnt even give me a new air filter for 60k which was when i did the FI service so it makes me wonder if they really even did it.

so i have decided to try a fuel additive myself.

seafoam or lucas injector cleaner

from talk here i guess lucas will be better, also i just started using chevron gas

[suby01]

whats a chevron, i use mobile or shell. am i covered haha. mobile is most expensive.

[Jacko3]

By flog, I mean making love to the car on the road---that means driving her as hard as she can take until she screams. trust me, she will be fine.

Fuel induction service at 60K?? This is completely unnecessary except if the previous owners of the car had been using low quality gas or inappropriate additives in the car. The only time I have ever done a fuel induction service on any of my cars was with my little nissan at 130,000 miles due to serious and heavy highway use for the first 7 years of its life. And even then, I was advised to avoid doing an induction excessively throughout the life of the car. Fuel Induction service isn't a service that should be done on a whim. May I ask why you even considered doing it in the first place?


Modified by Jacko3 at 9:24 PM 11/13/2008

[G'd up]

well my car was previously a lease. so i figured whoever leased the car probably didnt spend the money to put premium in it.

also my transmission shifts very hard into 3rd and going into second it seems to "slip" and not catch fully.

Damn infiniti's

and Suby Chevron is a gas company. they specialize in "chevron with techron" techron is an additive that helps keep your motor clean. generally speaking they have the best gas out there very good for your motor

[silverbullit05]

well there could be a few things that may be the problem if your car is 6mt first of 03 to the first batch of 05 6mt are not great for smooth shifting however when i brought my car to the dealer for this problem they advised me this i a technical bullitin. and they would replace both dm flywheel and transmission. however with that replaced and over 700 miles on them i still find 2nd to be notchy unless im slammin gears. now depending on your milage with the mt6 it is known that the stock clutch is junk! they are noisy and normally get less than 50000miles out of them. now if you have the auto tragic i mean automatic they suck all around there shifts are slow and trannys seam like sliping between shifts. however this can be fixed with stillens valvebody swap. hope this info helps you.

[G'd up]

thanks silverbulet. but my car is 5AT , i notice it clunks sometimes going into 3rd and 2nd slips when i gun it hard

[tollboothwilley]

Toolboothwilley:

How is the little bundle of joy doing? Yep, if you ain't using Chevron gas everyday, then Lucas Injector cleaner every now and then, is okay.

I don't think chevron is any different from other high quality gasoline

The little baby girl is doing good. Me and her are watching some college football together today. I bet she's almost up to 7 pounds now...she's 5.5 weeks old now.

[tollboothwilley]

How many miles are on your car G'd Up?

Are you out of warranty?

clunking into 3rd gear is a bad bad thing...Do you have grounding wires on yoru car yet?

[SVTCOBRA]

Have used Lucas in my Exploder and Max, but not in the G's yet.

Have always heard that 60K miles is a good time to do your injectors.

HOWEVER, not sure about the G, but my SVT Cobra injectors had special coatings and the manual said to NOT clean the injectors. Lucas injector cleaner was fine tho. I'm sure one of the techs will chime in.

[SteveTheTech]

I've read this thread a few times and have been weighting chiming in, I'm just going to voice my opinion.

I think (my opinion and not fact) There are so many useless products on the market, fluid wise. There's a dedicated isle to any type of treatment you can imagine. I find the information from the company is always slanted in their direction to make them seem like an ideal choice, or they have a very vocal TV spokesman. I am not saying I think the products don't work at all, I think the majority of them may actually do what they claim to to some extent. The fuel system doesn't really need additives I feel drop in cleaners are not the best way to clean injectors the dilution rate and potential effect to fuel system components when using high quality premium only is not needed.

As for engine treatments like oil additives. Most of the guys here are using over kill quality oils, and the additives in them should be sufficient to keep the engine clean.

Many if not all dealers have contracts with additive salesmen and they all profit off these products regardless of their claims. If your thinking about using any of these things just research them before trusting something in your car.

Dam Fbpem1 is rubbing off on me. lol

[silverbullit05]

you also might want to have the transmission service if you have 30000 miles or so on the fluid. also someone said put ground wires on it this stabilizes voltage and help automatics shift better. but if the transmission is slipping check fluid level and color first if fluid is low under hard accel tran will slip but during normal driving it wont seem to slip but shifting engagement can be rather harsh. also if the fluid looks tingy brown or discolored the fluid needs replacement. hopefully it hasnt slipped enough to make fluid burnt if the fluid is burnt really bad transmission clutches maybe worn and transmission may need replacement or rebuild.

[G'd up]

i had my transmission flushed at 52k now my car is at 60k i notice that when i drive in tiptonic and i shift 3rd gear and occasionally 4th gear clunk and kind of gives my car a quick jolt you can hear it. also when i drive in normal mode if i get on it when the car shifts into second gear it seems to slip and rev up pretty high before it catches all the way. like when you drive a stick and the clutch is going out the motor will rev and not catch all the way, buit it will be pulling. just seems like at a higher RPM.

also no grounding kit

i think my engine and powertrain warranty are still good till 70k so i will take it up to them soon and see what they say.

Do you think grounding kit will help alot?? Also will it effect warranty?

Thanks for the help guys

[tollboothwilley]

grounding kit should not affect warranty, but I would wait to put it on if you are going to take it to the dealer, just in case they try to give you grief.

the hard shifting is the part that would scare me. When i first got my car at high rpms during shifting it seemed like it was slow to go between gears, like it was still spinning but not being put into the next gear yet. Since I put the grounding wires on I've had no problems with this at all.

powertrain is 5or 6yr/70k I believe. You should still be covered. So i'd go with that route first. Take a technician for a test drive where you can show him what you are talking about so you don't get the "could not replicate problem"

[kmckis1029]

after putting my grounding kit in when im in auto everything is smooth even under WOT... but in manual mode 3rd gear (about 6000rpm) does come in with a "clunk" or hard... but dosent slip at all...

So i should get that checked out? my car has 25k miles and is a 05 g35x... maybe just old fluid? i brought it with 18k so i know the car was sitting before i brought it.

[G'd up]

after putting my grounding kit in when im in auto everything is smooth even under WOT... but in manual mode 3rd gear (about 6000rpm) does come in with a "clunk" or hard... but dosent slip at all...

So i should get that checked out? my car has 25k miles and is a 05 g35x... maybe just old fluid? i brought it with 18k so i know the car was sitting before i brought it.

exactly i get that clunk/ hard shift.

i think i will bring it in and see what they have to offer.

do they make a grounding kit that allows for the engine shroud to be put back on?

[kmckis1029]

i got my kit from a NICO member search "SBD Grounding kit" and it fits under the engine cover.

the nearest dealer is 1 hr away... i do have a nissan dealer by me... but they wont do warranty work and they are always booked. maybey when i go home for thanks given ill bring my car in that friday... and just let them see it...

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

Im taking mine in for all the problems I have the wednesday before thanksgiving. That way I will get to drive the loaner for like a week!

DJ

[Sentientbydesign]

do they make a grounding kit that allows for the engine shroud to be put back on?

Yes. I think all of the kits on the market (including mine) allow for the engine cover to be replaced.

[tollboothwilley]

i've never seen a grounding kit that wouldn't allow you to leave the engine shroud on. The grounding points are all lower than the shroud or outside it.

[C-Kwik]

There are so many useless products on the market, fluid wise.

I was fairly skeptical of Seafoam for years. Then I ran into a misfire problem on my mom's van. I suspected the ignition first so I replaced the plugs, wires and distributor cap and rotor. Problem persisted. No biggie, those were probably nearing the end of their life anyways. After some poking around, I speculated it was a fuel deliver problem. The issue with chevy vans is they use these odd poppet valves at the end of long tubes to deliver fuel to the ports. There is a single injector that feeds all 8 lines to the motor. They have to run with a minimum amount of pressure in order for the poppets to operate. As these are embedded into the manifold (its a van so getting it off is a pain). For the cost of a couple bottles of seafoam, it was worth a shot. Dumped 2 bottles in along with fresh gas and 20 minutes later, the misfire was gone. How does it work? Beats me. Did it save me the headache of removing the upper manifold? Absolutely.

[kmckis1029]

called nalley infiniti of marietta, ga and he told me that the hard 3rd gear shift could be the "gear locking" ... thats what it sure feels like as 3rd gear dosent slip one bit... and its the only gear that dose that... but he said he is willing to take a test drive with me to make sure... so ill drop by there next week before the holiday.

[tollboothwilley]

called nalley infiniti of marietta, ga and he told me that the hard 3rd gear shift could be the "gear locking" ... thats what it sure feels like as 3rd gear dosent slip one bit... and its the only gear that dose that... but he said he is willing to take a test drive with me to make sure... so ill drop by there next week before the holiday.

If he says its normal and isn't worried about it at all, make sure you put on a grounding kit. I think it will help every shift in your car. I can't even remember waht it was like to drive my car without the grounding kit but I do know that I don't ever want to drive it like that again.

I was fairly skeptical of Seafoam for years. Then I ran into a misfire problem on my mom's van. I suspected the ignition first so I replaced the plugs, wires and distributor cap and rotor. Problem persisted. No biggie, those were probably nearing the end of their life anyways. After some poking around, I speculated it was a fuel deliver problem. The issue with chevy vans is they use these odd poppet valves at the end of long tubes to deliver fuel to the ports. There is a single injector that feeds all 8 lines to the motor. They have to run with a minimum amount of pressure in order for the poppets to operate. As these are embedded into the manifold (its a van so getting it off is a pain). For the cost of a couple bottles of seafoam, it was worth a shot. Dumped 2 bottles in along with fresh gas and 20 minutes later, the misfire was gone. How does it work? Beats me. Did it save me the headache of removing the upper manifold? Absolutely.

Hey C-Kwik...have you ever tried using the Seafoam in the vacuum lines to eliminate carbon build up?

[kmckis1029]

i have SBD's kit... and yeah i cant remember how my G used to be when i first brought it!