Scott Brown wins the Massachusetts Senate seat! There is hope!

[Empty V]

Now that the Republicans have won a Massachusetts Senate seat that has been controlled by the Democrats for 40+ years there is a glimmer of hope. Maybe, just maybe this healthcare bill will get rejected and we can all live in a free market.

Profile of Scott Brown, victor in Massachusetts Senate race

[themadscientist]

I would like to thank the voters of the great state of Massachusetts for delivering this victory.



And for the ladies.

[audtatious]

There is hope that all politicians should learn from this; the people will speak. Dems in power need to stop being elitist (won't happen) and Reps need to follow conservative values or they won't last either.

[RobPaulson]

BUWAHAHAHAHAA is that really him!? hahahahahaha

i have an ear-2-ear grin this morning from this news, awesome, couldnt be happier, SUCK IT DEMS!

[bigbadberry3]

As a dem, I'm ok with Brown winning, hopefully bringing Obamacare to an end. (I don't like Brown that much from some of his history but that's besides the point). I was sick of some of the ridiculous concessions and backroom bargains being made by the dems to get votes for Obamacare. Now maybe Congress and Obama will be able to do something, you know, maybe about the economy?

[RobPaulson]

also want to point out that NICO had cynthia adds up all day yesterday, i know some of the subject matter is not really regulated by the people of NICO, but deng, its good to know that c*nt lost.

its about time both sides were equally represented.

[dusred]

I, too, want to offer a thanks for the all the good Lib's in Massachusetts for electing Brown and thus possibly stopping the health care monstrosity. To me this seems like a giant slap in the face of Obama and all the democrats. If the Liberal state of Massachusetts will elect a republican than I dare say about any state will.

WE THE PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES IGNORING US AND IF THEY KEEP IT UP WE'LL THROW THEM OUT!

And don't forget it.

[Empty V]

Well Obama said that he wanted to drop party lines and unite us as a country, I think we're witnessing this right now. I doubt his intentions were to be united over opposition of his administration though. So if Obama really believes in what he promised during his campaign, which his short history shows that most of it was lies, then this is somewhat of a bittersweet victory for him. This is really a major mark in US history and the country is coming together in force to show that we do not want this healthcare bill to pass. If this doesn't send a shockwave to congress then I don't know what will. This shouldn't be rubbed in the faces of the Dems because they're the ones that made this possible.

Obama's 8 Open Policy Promises

[srellim234]

Unfotunately this victory for the Republicans masks bigger issues that must be addressed.

One person, one vote no longer exists in the Senate. Each vote in the majoriy is only worth 6/10 of a minority vote.

Power is still limited to the two corrupt parties who through gerrymandering have ensured that there will never be competition. The people have allowed them to create a situation where the parties have a vested interest in keeping the two parties first, America second.

Brown may look good now, but I have very little faith that he won't be a corrupt politicin in the Sente in no time at all. He probably had to sell out to the party to even get the nomination let alone get elected.

Our political system stinks from top to bottom and it's not going to get fixed until true competition is restored.

[audtatious]

also want to point out that NICO had cynthia adds up all day yesterday, i know some of the subject matter is not really regulated by the people of NICO, but deng, its good to know that c*nt lost.

its about time both sides were equally represented.

You should have brought that to our attention. I didn't see any political ads yesterday.

[audtatious]

Unfotunately this victory for the Republicans masks bigger issues that must be addressed.

One person, one vote no longer exists in the Senate. Each vote in the majoriy is only worth 6/10 of a minority vote.

Power is still limited to the two corrupt parties who through gerrymandering have ensured that there will never be competition. The people have allowed them to create a situation where the parties have a vested interest in keeping the two parties first, America second.

Brown may look good now, but I have very little faith that he won't be a corrupt politicin in the Sente in no time at all. He probably had to sell out to the party to even get the nomination let alone get elected.

Our political system stinks from top to bottom and it's not going to get fixed until true competition is restored.

I agree. First thing to do is fix the economy and get the US growing again. The only thing that will help end poverty is by growth and available jobs for US citizens.

[RobPaulson]

You should have brought that to our attention. I didn't see any political ads yesterday.

i was thinking about it... but i didnt want to step on NICO toes by bashing the add policies or something like that... but ya, the top banner, on every nico page i refreshed/visited yesterday had 'vote for cynthia' with her stupid face and whats-his-face with his pompous little smirk.

[audtatious]

G would have blocked any political ad (Brown or the loser) had anyone said anything.

[UpStar]

Maybe, just maybe this healthcare bill will get rejected and we can all live in a free market.

Billy,

Slow down! I’d like to see more balance myself, but 1 to 59 is no reason to start celebrating. I hope everyone that voted for him doesn't think like you. Please do not think that just because this guy got elected that the health bill will get rejected, but you did say "Maybe", right? I hope people voted for him for other reasons besides rejecting the health care bill. Shame on them if this is what they are expecting from him.

....and the talk of him running for prez is garbage.
Modified by UpStar at 6:26 AM 1/21/2010

[WDRacing]

Blocking a partisan health care bill is an excellent reason to vote for someone. The fact that you don't understand that makes it obvious that you're out of touch with what the people really want. We don't like back door dealings and behind the scenes bartering. We don't need to rush something into law simply for the sake of getting it done.

The Obama admin has been so concerned with health care that they have left other more important things totally off the table. Well that's inexcusable and it's going to lead to a GOP landslide in fall.

Obama and his admin put on horse blinders for their first year and the people have spoken. This Fall all of the idiots that fell inline with their party for the sake of the party will find themselves unemployed and rightfully so.

I'm no GOP lover btw and I know that the last 8 years under Bush sucked big time. But that is no excuse to allow what's happening now to simply continue without checks and balances.

I'll support health care reform, but not that POS bill that was drawn up already. How about start small and go from there? Why would I trust a Gov that has a crap track record to do what in my best interest? Easy, I wouldn't.

WD

[dusred]

I hope people voted for him for other reasons besides rejecting the health care bill. Shame on them if this is what they are expecting from him.

Why not? It is a bill that could flatten our wallets and mess up our lives severely.

[UpStar]

Blocking a partisan health care bill is an excellent reason to vote for someone. The fact that you don't understand that makes it obvious that you're out of touch with what the people really want.

Sure, so would Brown be considered a failure in the eyes of the ones who voted for him if the bill gets passed? I guess what I’m saying is that it would be unfair to Brown if everyone thinks like you and Billy, especially if the bill goes through. Brown is talking the good talk now, but he will fall in line very soon if he want to survive the vicious game of politics. You are correct, I do not know what the people really want and neither do unless you’ve spoken to the 125,181,518 of them that voted in 2008….and you call me out of touch?!?! Don’t speak for the people; speak for your self next time.

[UpStar]

Why not? It is a bill that could flatten our wallets and mess up our lives severely.

can YOU personally back that comment up and prove it without posting some link from someone saying so?

I dont to debate healthcare in this thread about Brown, but I gotta hear this.
Modified by UpStar at 11:12 AM 1/21/2010

[WDRacing]

Sure, so would Brown be considered a failure in the eyes of the ones who voted for him if the bill gets passed? I guess what I’m saying is that it would be unfair to Brown if everyone thinks like you and Billy, especially if the bill goes through. Brown is talking the good talk now, but he will fall in line very soon if he want to survive the vicious game of politics. You are correct, I do not know what the people really want and neither do unless you’ve spoken to the 125,181,518 of them that voted in 2008….and you call me out of touch?!?! Don’t speak for the people; speak for your self next time.

It's all but dead, Pelosi has already said they lack the house votes. It will NEVER happen now...as a Nation we have just won big time.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/201...rhaul

As to the rest of what you said, I can't understand how you come to have the opinions you have. We're just different people. I will never understand the way a lot of Liberal types think. That doesn't mean you're wrong, it just means we disagree.

I don't understand how you can even make statements like that. Why would we see someone that thinks along the same lines as us, as a failure when he gets elected to office in place of someone that was about to seriously impact my life personally and for a long time. Even if they managed to pass some crazy health care plan, I would still have one more representative on the floor.

I was merely weighing in on your original statement. That the HC plan alone wasn't a good reason to vote for Brown. The fact that you don't understand that, further makes my point about not being able to understand how people like yourself even operate on a day to day basis. That's not meant to be slanderous, I'm just trying to illustrate how differently you and I think.

WD

[Empty V]

Billy,

Slow down! I’d like to see more balance myself, but 1 to 59 is no reason to start celebrating. I hope everyone that voted for him doesn't think like you. Please do not think that just because this guy got elected that the health bill will get rejected, but you did say "Maybe", right? I hope people voted for him for other reasons besides rejecting the health care bill. Shame on them if this is what they are expecting from him.

....and the talk of him running for prez is garbage.

Modified by UpStar at 6:26 AM 1/21/2010

Alex,

First off I don't think anyone expects Brown to be the hero and spearhead the rebellion against the proposed health care bill. This has nothing to do with that, it's about the dems having a filibuster proof congress which is something that should strike fear in the hearts of this nation. This is all about party affiliation and his seat just evened the odds.

Why do people vote? They vote is because they believe that their candidate will vote the right way for them and shares the same values. That is exactly why he was elected. The majority of people do not want this bill to pass, every pole I've seen has stated this and the percentage of the opposition is increasing rapidly. This is completely obvious as Massachusetts has historically been overwhelmingly Democrat and they just chose a Republican as their representative to the senate. The party lines are starting to blur which is what this nation needs. Brown winning a democratically controlled seat has given congress a chance to vote on this bill, opposed to it getting forcefully pushed through. Do you really want all the radical liberal zealots in charge of public health care? Especially considering that our own President said that he wouldn't trade his own govt health care plan for the one he's proposing? The radical liberals that are pushing this won't even subscribe to it themselves. And you think that we're wrong for voting for someone that helps even the playing field when it comes to it getting voted on?

Realistically Ted Kennedy's seat wasn't his seat, and it wasn't the Dem's seat either. It's the people's seat and they have spoken. So yeah, I'll vote for someone that will reject a bill that I object to, that's the whole point of voting. BTW no one is celebrating, the celebrating will begin when this bill is rejected and a new one is drafted that is feasible for the people of the U.S. A public health care system would be amazing if it was done right, this just isn't the right way to do it.

Billy

[WDRacing]

Well said sir.

[Empty V]

Well Obama said that he wanted to drop party lines and unite us as a country, I think we're witnessing this right now. I doubt his intentions were to be united over opposition of his administration though. So if Obama really believes in what he promised during his campaign, which his short history shows that most of it was lies, then this is somewhat of a bittersweet victory for him. This is really a major mark in US history and the country is coming together in force to show that we do not want this healthcare bill to pass. If this doesn't send a shockwave to congress then I don't know what will. This shouldn't be rubbed in the faces of the Dems because they're the ones that made this possible.

Obama's 8 Open Policy Promises

[dusred]

can YOU personally back that comment up and prove it without posting some link from someone saying so?

Yes. I said it. Got a problem with that? Higher taxes = flatter wallet. National health care = rationing and overall poor health care.

[Empty V]

Yes. I said it. Got a problem with that? Higher taxes = flatter wallet. National health care = rationing and overall poor health care.

Hopefully we didn't scare him away with reason, I think he was expecting conjecture.

Billy
Modified by Empty V at 1:09 AM 1/23/2010