SCARED to start it....

[Ka24de240sxS13]

K so i purchased a 240sx with a blown motor early last summer, and since then i have been pouring me and my friends sweat into rebuilding that damn thing. I removed the motor, and replaced it with a motor that i purchased from a douche bag that told me it ran...turns out it had a dent on the edge of one of the cylinders where the head touches... making a oil/antifreeze leak. creating nothing but a smoke machine. so i took a s*** on his doorstep and did some donuts on his lawn. anyways, i took the internals out of that block, and put them into another block that i honed out myself, and replaced the headgasket. In other words, I used a new head with its internals, and shoved them into an old block. Because i had doubts in how the new head and old block would seal, i used a crap load of copperspray on the new headgasket. I also did a auto to manual swap. so as I near the first startup in nearly a year, im worried its not going to start... My question is, what should i check before starting it the first time, what steps should i take considering it hasn't ran in a year to insure it starts? what are your guys opinion on this? do you think it will pull through?
Modified by Ka24de240sxS13 at 9:16 PM 3/27/2008

[mutiny]

K so i purchased a 240sx with a blown motor early last summer, and since then i have been pouring me and my friends sweat into rebuilding that damn thing. I removed the motor, and replaced it with a motor that i purchased from a douche bag that told me it ran...turns out it had a dent on the edge of one of the cylinders where the head touches... making a oil/antifreeze leak. creating nothing but a smoke machine. so i took a s*** on his doorstep and did some donuts on his lawn. anyways, i took the internals out of that block, and put them into another block that i honed out myself, and replaced the headgasket. In other words, I used a new head with its internals, and shoved them into an old block. Because i had doubts in how the new head and old block would seal, i used a crap load of copperspray on the new headgasket. I also did a auto to manual swap. so as I near the first startup in nearly a year, im worried its not going to start... My question is, what should i check before starting it the first time, what steps should i take considering it hasn't ran in a year to insure it starts? what are your guys opionion on this? do you think it will pull through?

you should be fine. this is my first car ive ever touched, first motor ive ever worked on, and first motor ive ever rebuilt and it started up just fine.

as long as youve done whats needed to be done, torqued everything down, made sure oil pump operates etc, and wiring is all fine, just crank her and see what happens. most likely the worst that will happen is it wont start, and you can start troubleshooting but you never know til you take that step

[kpariaug]

just my .02 but make absolutely sure your timing is ok and no valves are hitting the pistons.

(this should def go w/o saying but just lookin out 4 ya)

[xekushnr]

Make sure the pump is primed and your timing is correct. Check all your connections and check the torque on everything again. Don't be worried to start it, if you followed the FSM you should be fine. Let us know how it works.

[Vegascorbin]

Just crank it over by hand a few times to ensure things feel right (no binding etc.) and then go for it. Check your work twice and fire it up.

Or if you want you can try praying to the Engine Gods. This requires a full moon, a chicken suit, motor oil, a crankshaft, and some ignition parts.

On the night of hte full moon you pour the oil in a circle on your garage floor. Put on the chicken suit and sprinke the ignition parts inside the circle. While chanting the type of motor and it's fireing order followed by the sound of a smooth ide (KA24E 1 3 4 2 hUMMMM KA24E 1 3 4 2 hUMMMM) you ballance the crankshaft on the front pully end. If the motor god look upon you faverably it will ballance and you car will start and run fine. If it falls over then your car will never run again.

Or you can just trust in good workmanship and check your work:)

[98s14inaz]

...anyways, i took the internals out of that block, and put them into another block that i honed out myself, and replaced the headgasket. In other words, I used a new head with its internals, and shoved them into an old block. Because i had doubts in how the new head and old block would seal, i used a crap load of copperspray on the new headgasket. I also did a auto to manual swap. so as I near the first startup in nearly a year, im worried its not going to start... My question is, what should i check before starting it the first time, what steps should i take considering it hasn't ran in a year to insure it starts? what are your guys opinion on this? do you think it will pull through?

I am not familiar with your experience working on engines. Copperspray is usually not a good idea on oem headgaskets. How did you swap the internals over to the new block? Did you do new rings? Did you use new bearings? There is a lot that could go wrong if you reused used parts. Did you use an fsm?

[h.240]

Definetely turn the engine over by hand before starting it. A couple things to check for when you do get it running are oil pressure and coolant temp. Watch these gauges, or indicator lights for awhile. Also check for leaks and wierd noises coming from the engine.

[Ka24de240sxS13]

I am not familiar with your experience working on engines. Copperspray is usually not a good idea on oem headgaskets. How did you swap the internals over to the new block? Did you do new rings? Did you use new bearings? There is a lot that could go wrong if you reused used parts. Did you use an fsm?

I did copperspray my OEM headgasket, my buddy did the same thing and it stopped the smoking on his block. No new parts, just straight across swap... I have already cranked it over by hand, i triple checked the timing, and i used assembly lube. Also everything was torqued down to specs. No wierd noises or anything like that.

Does the fuel have to be primed somehow? or do you just krank it over until the gas gets through all the lines?

[Ka24de240sxS13]

Just crank it over by hand a few times to ensure things feel right (no binding etc.) and then go for it. Check your work twice and fire it up.

Or if you want you can try praying to the Engine Gods. This requires a full moon, a chicken suit, motor oil, a crankshaft, and some ignition parts.

On the night of hte full moon you pour the oil in a circle on your garage floor. Put on the chicken suit and sprinke the ignition parts inside the circle. While chanting the type of motor and it's fireing order followed by the sound of a smooth ide (KA24E 1 3 4 2 hUMMMM KA24E 1 3 4 2 hUMMMM) you ballance the crankshaft on the front pully end. If the motor god look upon you faverably it will ballance and you car will start and run fine. If it falls over then your car will never run again.

Or you can just trust in good workmanship and check your work:)

....lol

[98s14inaz]

I did copperspray my OEM headgasket, my buddy did the same thing and it stopped the smoking on his block. No new parts, just straight across swap... I have already cranked it over by hand, i triple checked the timing, and i used assembly lube. Also everything was torqued down to specs. No wierd noises or anything like that.

Does the fuel have to be primed somehow? or do you just krank it over until the gas gets through all the lines?

What about bearings and tolerances? I'd be nervous about starting that thing too lol.

off topic, it's funny seeing my avatar pop up on the internet every now and then. I made that "no drifto for you" with the family guy monkey years ago and posted it on a cell phone image download site.

[Ka24de240sxS13]

ok like i believe that

[98s14inaz]

Believe what you want noobie. I was attempting to be nice to you and have a conversation but you want to be a d!ck.

[Ka24de240sxS13]

ouch! wow i really hit a soft spot on the pro, look lets keep this conversation oriented around the problem at hand. i was just saying that the chances that you made it are slim. and there is no way we can prove or disprove your statement, so lets just leave it be. anyways, how about my fuel question? Does the fuel somehow get primed?

[h.240]

Since your car has an electrical fuel pump it should prime the fuel lines automatically as soon as you turn the key to the on position (the position before it cranks). If you want you can leave the key in the on position for a few moments to help the system self prime. It probably won't take long.

[leonelrr]

You should be fine, bro. Good luck don't be afraid of starting that ***** up. If it fails fck it next time you'll know how to do it better. I understand all the time it took you, but sometimes that's just how u learn by messing things up.

This is my list of fallen engines..

2) F22A ( accord engine) 1 for time belt, other one for turbo1( H22A ( Honda prelude) Bad water pump, blown headgasket2) VG30ET ( 84-89 300zx) One for Time belt and other for excessive PSI on stock, turbo, fuel system and non-intercooled.1) VG30DE, dented piston cause by a bolt on the cylinder, slipped when i changed the spark plugs.

And now my KA24DE so far it's been good i've replaced Time chain, Water pump, Starter, Alternator, Air filter, and basic tune ups without messing it up?

To come RB20DET

[fromeast2west]

After you turn the engine over by hand you can crank it w/ the starter before you add fuel, just to be extra safe.

[Vegascorbin]

Well, Did you start it? Tell us what happened.

Or are you just waiting for the next full moon?

[Ka24de240sxS13]

Lol yeah i'm waiting for a full moon...lol

no uh im still trying to figure out my friggen vacuum lines!i have my intake off and im trying furiously to figure it out!

here is what else i have left to do on the car:

mount the radiator,vacuum lines/emissions stuffsome wiring, tourqe the transmission to the motor.Thats about it.

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH THESE VACUUM LINES!!!

[Ka24de240sxS13]

By the way, all the lines are bare, nothing is hooked up...But I do have all my needed parts mounted in their place, EGR, PAIRC, FPR...etc...

[alkemyst]

just my .02 but make absolutely sure your timing is ok and no valves are hitting the pistons.

(this should def go w/o saying but just lookin out 4 ya)

true, if everything was assembled right (don't know what you did with the copper seal stuff...) just hand crank it with a 27mm socket on the lower crank pulley bolt a few times to make sure nothing is interfering.

Give it a fire up at that point and worst case is it just doesn't run...should not cause any damage.

Of course if it was not assembled right all bets are off. Regardless you either go back through the whole motor or give it a start.

[Ka24de240sxS13]

BUMP!

The factory diagrams just dont cut it if you dont have anything hooked up... can someone check their car and somehow show which lines go where? for example, bottom egr to bottom of the EGRC-BPT valve. Thanks in advance guys

[Ka24de240sxS13]

BUMP

I know there is someone out there with all their vacuum lines hooked up... please, help me out here.

[andrewsmc]

....lol

Word... That was hillarious