i hope u dont view this as apolital thred.. if u find that its inapropreate (sp?) then just delete it, i found it interesting and thought u all would like to see it..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/pro...5.stm
Saving Private Lynch story 'flawed'
Yeah I read an article similair to that at http://axisofjustice.org ... I always had a feeling that the Jessica Lynch story was just over-exaggerated and manipulated to blow up more support for the war in Iraq. Its just a different kind of propoganda ---
Jason Blair has nothing to do with this. I am aware that he fabricated the story about having visited Lynche's family..but thats besides the topic. The point is - there were a lot of other troops who were taken POW and didn't get glorified as much as PFC Lynch...and have you ever found it funny that throughout other US conflicts there has always been a POW that was glorified and used to stir up sympathy towards the US and blind the population from the obvious deceptions. The case here in "operation Iraqi Freedom" is quite obvious. Think about it - we went into this operation with the Bush Administration's assurance that there were weapons of mass destruction... and that a smoking gun would be found rapidly. Well - as the operation began I'm sure light was shed unto the fact that the weapons we had been promised either didn't exist, or were going to be very tough to find. So what did the administration do? They changed the countrie's focus to removing Iraq from the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein! Then the whole PFC Lynch thing came out once support for the war began to drop because of lack of what had been promised we'd find...does anyone find this ironic?
on top of all of that...think about it. I thought about this before reading the article btw... She miraculously came down with amnesia after conflicting reports of whether she had been stabbed or shots began to arise... oh and the doctor's say she'll never remember that SPECIFIC ordeal again. Don't make me laugh - open your eyes.
Beside the topic? Pardon me for calling you blind, but Masterman said "maybe they tell the real story"doraemon wrote:Jason Blair has nothing to do with this. I am aware that he fabricated the story about having visited Lynche's family..but thats besides the topic.
Blair fabricated stories. He printed lies, which would mean that in this instance, NO, they did not tell the truth. You've posted your opinion, so now we all know where you stand, but I think it's you who needs to *open your eyes* and notice the glaring contradiction here.
Nobody said all three fabricated stories, they just run hit pieces and smear campaigns against our government and our leaders on a regualar basis. To say that this wasn't the first piece Blair fabricated is to prove my point about the NY times further. I've made a messenger out of you too. If you're gonna go on making my points for me, please drop the anti-war/anit-bush administration tone.
Ok, then you please drop the Pro-War/Pro-Bush Administration tone.SmithSR wrote:Nobody said all three fabricated stories, they just run hit pieces and smear campaigns against our government and our leaders on a regualar basis. To say that this wasn't the first piece Blair fabricated is to prove my point about the NY times further. I've made a messenger out of you too. If you're gonna go on making my points for me, please drop the anti-war/anit-bush administration tone.
I find it funny that you accuse other people of having certain beliefs (and are thus biased) while you spout off your own rhetoric without a second thought.
Obviously, you are right, and everyone else is wrong, correct? :rolleyes
Get off your high horse and realize this is America. People are entitled to their beliefs. That's our government.
Oh, and as far as all of them "running hit pieces and smear campaigns against our government and our leaders on a regular basis" - That again is a strong opinion. If it weren't for news organizations and their constant reporting, I think serious injustices and indiscretions would occur more often in our government. If you think the U.S. has never done anything wrong or "questionable," then you, my friend, are very naive.
A: If he's gonna make my points for me, then he should do so without the naive attitude that mass murderers are ok as long as they are on the other side of the world.B: What rhetoric? What agenda do you feel i pushed on you?
C: I know what country I live in, for you to remind me is a waste of your time. I know fullwell my right to speak my opinion. I see a couple of you are heatedly in opposition to my point of view.. which means both sides of the issue can be shown.
D: I agree that fair news agencies keep leaders in check. The problem is with the people in charge of the not-so-fair news agencies that promote single-sided reporting. This is common knowledge to most Americans that BBC, CNN, LA Times, and the NY Times are controlled by symathizers with the left. Ted Turner publicly says so. You do know what news agency he owns, right??
final point: you can argue what you want to, but don't tell people to get off their high horse and act in a condescending manner. You will never convince people of anything if you are condescending. I've tried to explain the fact that Jason Blair promoted stories which he KNEW to be fabricated. Why would he do that? What does this tell you about modern news reporting? The people in charge of very large news agencies are PROMOTING THEIR OWN AGENDAS, which often are smear tactics of our President and his administration, and the war that was fought. That does not make for fair and accurate reporting. Don't believe everything that you read, because there's a good chance it came from a guy who gets paid to blatantly lie, fabricate facts, and promote his boss' agenda.
no harm done i hope? we're all here to talk about cars anyways, but please respond if you feel the need.
C: I know what country I live in, for you to remind me is a waste of your time. I know fullwell my right to speak my opinion. I see a couple of you are heatedly in opposition to my point of view.. which means both sides of the issue can be shown.
D: I agree that fair news agencies keep leaders in check. The problem is with the people in charge of the not-so-fair news agencies that promote single-sided reporting. This is common knowledge to most Americans that BBC, CNN, LA Times, and the NY Times are controlled by symathizers with the left. Ted Turner publicly says so. You do know what news agency he owns, right??
final point: you can argue what you want to, but don't tell people to get off their high horse and act in a condescending manner. You will never convince people of anything if you are condescending. I've tried to explain the fact that Jason Blair promoted stories which he KNEW to be fabricated. Why would he do that? What does this tell you about modern news reporting? The people in charge of very large news agencies are PROMOTING THEIR OWN AGENDAS, which often are smear tactics of our President and his administration, and the war that was fought. That does not make for fair and accurate reporting. Don't believe everything that you read, because there's a good chance it came from a guy who gets paid to blatantly lie, fabricate facts, and promote his boss' agenda.
no harm done i hope? we're all here to talk about cars anyways, but please respond if you feel the need.
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doraemon wrote:...does anyone find this ironic?
I find your choice of what you are willing to believe to be a little curious. If it's a sensationalized, ripe, and juicy conspiracy plot... it makes for good reading. It’s all the more likely that 'certain' people will be easily convinced.
I'd elaborate.... but I believe the ban on political threads is still in effect... and I'd hate to stir the waters with you silly chumps. Oh, by the way... I've got this bridge in Baghdad I'd love to sell you.:pface
