Sandy Hook shooting, WAS PLANNED!

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So uhh... where's all the links he promised to share?

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I mean there's tons of conspiracy theories out there. For example:

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(a Federal Emergency Management Agency [FEMA] drill that just so happened to be scheduled at Sandy Hook fire dept between the hours of 8am and 5pm on the day of the shooting)

Or this guy, who was seen smiling walking up to the camera, then put on a sad face and then said when he starts acting like the parent of one of the kids:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5OMOJoUye4[/youtube]

Or Obama seen hugging a "victim" of Sandy Hook just before the memorial service.
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And suddenly, Joseph Ametrano only has 4 videos, whereas we saw in that video he had 87 videos when this was made.
http://vimeo.com/user12212360

RIP Victoria Soto Created on Facebook December 10
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(of course there are a hundred pages dedicated to her now and they all say December 15th.)

United way creating their Sandy Hook Relief Fundraiser 3 days before the shooting:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/08/unite ... n-advance/
And calling it a "flawed google search result." Google searches might get a little weird with time zones, but not 3 days weird.

Wow, just found this one myself. I set a custom image range date from Dec 10 to Dec 12 (before the shooting) and this image came up:
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This is a "bravelet" made for sandy hook relief. The picture was uploaded (with keywords "sandy hook" and "united way") between 10Dec and 12Dec, based on my search parameters. Here's my google image search link, just for verification. It's the fourth image. All of these other things have been changed to December 15th, but this one still shows as being uploaded beforehand.

Wow, I got to digging a little deep in the conspiracy wagon. Most of those I found on Google, but one of the sites suggested I try an image search for those dates and the united way Sandy Hook logo would show up. It didn't, but that did.

*****RELEVANT EDIT:*****
HOLY DAMN I just tried the same thing (editing the search date parameters) for 11Dec to 13Dec, and searching for the Newtown United Way Relief URL, and the relief page is the first result. If it hadn't existed on these dates, and was really created on the 15th, then it wouldn't be indexed in these search results! This is enough to even make me lift an eyebrow. Click this massive blue link and see for yourself.

Oh, and there's your damn links, James.

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Damn!

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Weirds me out.

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Feeling slightly unsettled right about now.

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Whaaaaaaat?

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Was originally going to post "propaganda" but the further I dug into it the more I was getting a bit disconcerted. This is some serious stuff....

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Huh? OP and Ace you better not dig any deeper or you might be next on the hit list.

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Pretty sure I'm already on the FBI watchlist. *shrugs*

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Ace, I'll leave this here for you.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp

Scroll to the bottom.

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Reddit/4chan picked this up as well. All of this is rather confusing and disconcerting. Assuming the event was actually planned, why was it so incredibly sloppy in terms of websites and such going up before it happened? That seems like a pretty easy thing to avoid. I'll just eat my popcorn and see where this goes for the moment.

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I fall somewhere between ACE and Papa. But no matter where you fall you should be concerned about the governments interest in limiting or restricting any of your amendment rights.

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Agreed.

Now, just reading through that Reddit post, Did they change the FEMA site, or what happened?
http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetai ... CD83CDC9C7
Now says in Bridgeport on Main Street, when the screenshot above was for the school's address...

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Ace2cool wrote:
Oh, and there's your damn links, James.
hahah it was actually a legit question... I thought I was missing it. The guy kept saying "Ill post the links below this!!" because the video quality was bad enough to where I couldn't read anything, but I never saw any links. Go figure.

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Loki wrote:Reddit/4chan picked this up as well. All of this is rather confusing and disconcerting. Assuming the event was actually planned, why was it so incredibly sloppy in terms of websites and such going up before it happened? That seems like a pretty easy thing to avoid. I'll just eat my popcorn and see where this goes for the moment.
Seems quite far fetched to me.
I wonder what the parent of that girl would think if they saw that picture, where people are claiming she didn't actually die and was chilling with Obama, when infact they're putting her in a grave.
And apparently Obama is running low on "crisis actors", since they're recycling the same people for different roles. Or maybe some people just look similar.
I also don't get why the FEMA schedule is anything suspicious.

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Fascinating stuff. I'd like to know more about this Rodia guy whose name was supposedly a match for the Civic's plates. I couldn't find anything on Snopes about that.

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Oh yeah. All Facebook pages (or maybe just one with low amount of subscribers), can be renamed.
And they'll retain their original creation date.

Who's the Rodia guy?

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Razi wrote:Oh yeah. All Facebook pages (or maybe just one with low amount of subscribers), can be renamed.
And they'll retain their original creation date.

Who's the Rodia guy?
Apparently, there's recordings of a cop reading off Adam Lanza's Honda Civic plates and attributing them to Chris Rodia, some pedoph:le junkie who moved from CT to Florida.

I'm sure (or at least hope) there's a reasonable explanation.

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Ace2cool wrote:Agreed.

Now, just reading through that Reddit post, Did they change the FEMA site, or what happened?
http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetai ... CD83CDC9C7
Now says in Bridgeport on Main Street, when the screenshot above was for the school's address...
You didn't read the debunk of all this from snopes I linked. So I'll paraphrase a few highlights.

The issue with the "crisis actors". The main advocate for this theory is a nut job. He runs wellaware1.com. I took a minute to go to his website to see what he was really trying to get at, and I swear his entire site is dedicated to furthering the art of psychosis to the next level. Most of his look alike claims are complete and utter crap that are so far fetched that it's ridiculous (He claims Walt Disney and Hitler were the same guy by comparing ear lobes). So, the primary proof of this theory is coming from the meandering ramblings of someone who probably should be under some psychiatric care.

The problem with the FEMA meet. From looking at the agenda in the screen cap, it looks to be a seminar schedule. Also, the address doesn't match up with Sandy Hook El's address, 12 D1ckinson Dr.

And as far as the Google search dates, the authors at snopes were able to get Google to spit out all sorts of dates pre-dating the shooting.

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Hijacker wrote:(He claims Walt Disney and Hitler were the same guy by comparing ear lobes).
:spitout:

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Hijacker wrote: Also, the address doesn't match up with Sandy Hook El's address, 12 D1ckinson Dr.
I meant the fire station's address. My bad. Freudian slips and all.

But yeah, I realize the google dates are wonky now. But Snopes didn't explain the fundraiser being set up 4 days in advance. And that big flow chart thing that entails all the banks and stuff is kinda eerie. Idk man, it's just all a little weird to me, and no one could keep a straight story.

Also, what's the explanation for the guy walking up to the camera laughing then suddenly putting on a sad face when he started talking?

Disclaimer: I'm not a conspiracy theorist at any rate, but when there's this much pointing to something, I'm not really sure what to believe. I've stopped believing what the news tells me for a LONG time now.

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Tupac did it.

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Some people deal with tragedy and the unknown in different ways... I concur with gwoods 100%.

Doesn't mean I don't trust our "elected morons" any further than I can throw them.

I'd be more inclined to question Benghazi... and why it took a cable TV show to put the JFK conspiracies to rest (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27705829/ns ... PDoWm_LTni)

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Eikon wrote:Tupac did it.
I saw him at a BP station in the city just a couple weeks ago.

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Oh yeah? How's he doing? Still making music?

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No, but I did learn that he's a fan of menthols, Dr Pepper, and scratch tickets.

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Well who isn't?

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Razi wrote:
Loki wrote:Reddit/4chan picked this up as well. All of this is rather confusing and disconcerting. Assuming the event was actually planned, why was it so incredibly sloppy in terms of websites and such going up before it happened? That seems like a pretty easy thing to avoid. I'll just eat my popcorn and see where this goes for the moment.
Seems quite far fetched to me.
I wonder what the parent of that girl would think if they saw that picture, where people are claiming she didn't actually die and was chilling with Obama, when infact they're putting her in a grave.
And apparently Obama is running low on "crisis actors", since they're recycling the same people for different roles. Or maybe some people just look similar.
I also don't get why the FEMA schedule is anything suspicious.
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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:Well who isn't?
What if Tupac was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on a bus
Trying to make his way home
Back up to Roland all alone


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