SAD NEWS MY MOTOR HAS SEIZED!!

[Nicksemianiw]

Well i just started my car for the first time in 3 months and she seized up. I wanted to start it every week but my dad is in afganistan so i am at my moms and his girl firend hates me so she dident let me come and start it up once a week so this wouldent happen. It was away for the winter. So now i have to go buy a new car because i dont want to go through the hassel of puting a new motor in and such. So i am parting out my car check my home page for parts and make a offer. I am also sad to say that i am leaving the 240 family I am probaly going to buy a 300zx TT or maybe a RX7 TT. But i'll stay on the bord lol.

[own3d]

that really sucks, your car was definatly tight. i might be intrested in buying some stuff. ill email ya.

[DawgMode]

yea sry to hear what happend

just sent you an email about some stuff

[ruthless_S13]

Hey sorry to hear that. But I do need parts, so how much do you want for the gauge cluster shipped to 42223? I am also in the need of the ps setup, all the lines and resivor. I would like to know how much for that also if you have it. And why I am at it the sparco pedals, nismo shift knob and shift boot. And did you get the safc II, if so how do you want for it. Email me at [email protected]

Thanks, Josh

[eliterit]

how much for just the intercooler piping???

or if u'll only sell the whole kit, how much?

email me at [email protected]

[Nicksemianiw]

Ok sory boys i just spoke to my dad and he is going to pay for the repairs to the motor i am just going to build the bottom end. So can a mod please lock this thread?

Nick

[kane2g]

Well i just started my car for the first time in 3 months and she seized up. I wanted to start it every week but my dad is in afganistan so i am at my moms and his girl firend hates me so she dident let me come and start it up once a week so this wouldent happen. It was away for the winter. So now i have to go buy a new car because i dont want to go through the hassel of puting a new motor in and such. So i am parting out my car check my home page for parts and make a offer. I am also sad to say that i am leaving the 240 family I am probaly going to buy a 300zx TT or maybe a RX7 TT. But i'll stay on the bord lol.

someone forgot to prime the motor before starting it and booooom!Am I right???

[Nicksemianiw]

It would have been fine if i would have been able to start it once a week. And i forgot to as sad as it seems i had alot on my mind at the time because it wasent starting at first and i had to go through step by step of what it could be. So i guess in part it is my fault.

[kane2g]

sorry to hear it, I just wanted to see if I was right.Turbo cars need to be primed after sitting for a while like that, so you can always blame it on your dad's GF and make her buy you a fully built SR

[yellow_jacket]

First of all, you don't need to "prime" a motor. I'm not quite sure what you're referring to as priming something is referring to pumps, but that motor should be able to sit for a year with no major issue. As a matter of fact, most of them do when they are sitting in junkyards in Japan and then get shipped here.

As far as you starting it once a week just to run it, that is a bad idea. You are wearing the bearings on the bottom end out.

Now the question becomes how did you sieze it? Did the pistons weld themselves to the cylinder walls? Did the cams weld themselves to the journals? What exactly siezed? Was it caused by low oil pressure? Caused by the motor overheating?

Before you slap that motor back together you need to figure out why this happened.

[Nicksemianiw]

Yea i know but i am not to sure what seized. But when i get it rebuilt they will tell me. And it dident over heat it was runing for literly 1 second. What i think happend was there wasent enough oil in the car so when it sat for 3 month all of the oil near the top went in the oil pan. Becuase the second i started the motor it seized. When i find out i'll update you guys.

[nismostate]

wow, I've never heard of this happening.. i'll be sure to check my oil before i crank my car if it sits for awhile. my question, what happen to the oil? slow leak somewhere? and how do you know it seized?

[Nicksemianiw]

I have no clue there wasent any oil leek. And when i started it made a REALLY bad noise like girnding. And now it wont even start up. I am hoping by chance if i put oil in the top and let it sit for a day i might start or un seize i am just hoping (but i am still building the motor even if it starts LOL)

[TogueDrifter]

Good thing your getting another SR paid for. You should of had that ***** pay for it... Oh well, I don't think that enigine should have failed unless there is a lot of miles on it, or it went throught lots of abuse. Good luck dude!

[mynismo]

what do you mean it seized?

a motor, though running badly, will run without oil even if for some odd reason the motor dried up.

check your battery.

[ItzGenX]

The motor shouldn't make a grinding noise at all, no matter what condition. The only sound that comes from it even without oil should be lots of ticking and clapping. I think maybe the starter gear got stuck onto the flywheel without retracting itself. The only thing inside the motor that I can think of grinding is the chain slipping the teeth extremely fast.

[eliterit]

thats what i was gonna say, but i didnt want to sound dumb cuz i barely know what im talking about most of the time.

[yellow_jacket]

There was a grinding noise? how many rpms did the motor come up to when it stopped running?

You could have completely drained the engine and ran it for 30 seconds and the motor will not sieze. It would destroy the bearings, but it wouldn't sieze.

It really sounds like you have another problem. Have you tried turning the motor over by hand?

On one rare occasion I worked on a truck that the starter had come apart and jammed the flywheel. Customer thought that the motor was siezed. I would start inspecting it, or if you are unsure of what you are doing then take it to a competant mechanic.

[Nicksemianiw]

Thank god, So it might not be my motor and it ran for exactly 1 second! And it acctually might be the starter because when the car wouldent start i was trying to start it for 20 min so maybe i killed the starter. It makes more sence. But i am still ketting my bottom end built! lol!

[ill_sil]

hurry and unbolt that starter and get it tested im interested in what happened!

[ItzGenX]

After many cold start tuning sessions in my driveway to get my motor to start well (Haltech tune from scratch), my starter began to make a grind that sounds like a large turkey crying (I should have gave it 5 mins between each unsuccessful start). It eventually froze up in the "start" position and stopped the motor with it. 10 minutes under the car and a spare starter in the garage had it cranking again.

[Nicksemianiw]

Can i use a factory 240 starter or do i need to find a sr20det starter? And if so where can i find one? Ebay??

[ItzGenX]

It has to be an SR20 starter. The starter is unique to japan and will not be found in a parts store. Ebay or a SR20 parts vendor should have it. You can have the SR starters rebuilt in the USA though.

[Nicksemianiw]

Thanks!

[Henry G]

Okay, you figured it out. When I first read this I was like... uhhhh no.

Hope you get it all sorted out.

[ItzGenX]

I do not know if he has confirmed it was his starter yet. Check to see if the starter works by hotwiring it to a car battery. See if the gear pops out when it spins (or if that gear is stuck out like mine was). I would also do like someone else suggested earlier. Try to turn the motor by hand with a large ratchet or breaker bar and a 27mm socket over the crank pulley bolt (turn it towards the driver side looking down from the top).

[kane2g]

you are supposed to prime your turbo with oil.If you got it from JDMland and didn't, well maybe you got lucky or something.but after every rebuilt, you are supposed to prime the pump, and turbo, than without ignition/fuel turn the motor over few times checking you got good oil press and than proceed to start.Good luck, starter is a lot cheaper to fix than the buildup of bottom end.

[yellow_jacket]

He did not install a rebuilt motor, he started the motor that he had been driving in his car. And even if he had not cranked the car to build oil pressure, it would have trashed the turbo, not siezed the motor.

As far as turning the car over after a rebuild or oil change, that should be done.

[tubakins]

maybe your dads girlfriend dumped sum in your oil? i dont know, just a thought, im dumb

[own3d]

maybe your dads girlfriend dumped sum in your oil? i dont know, just a thought, im dumb

reading > tubakins he already found the problem