S14 SR into 97 S14

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RPS13 DRIFTER
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trying to find info on wiring and fitment and what not.i've searched and i cant only find stuff about S14 Sr into an S13.any info will help.


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keep searchimg there is plenty of infor on her for it

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will the fr sport wiring guide not work?:http://www.frsport.com/SR20DET....html

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vocationalzero wrote:will the fr sport wiring guide not work?:http://www.frsport.com/SR20DET....html
No. The S13 and S14 F4 plugs are different.

There is plenty of info on this site for doing a S14 Sr swap into an S14. I did my wiring, it was cake. After I finished my wiring I realized it would have made it a million times easier if I had the harness side-by-side. I think the only difference in the KA and SR harness is the fuel pump wire. The Sr fuel pump wire is black/yellow and the KA one is black/purple, I believe. But you should be able to do this yourself. The SR and KA FSM both have the F4 plug pinouts. This is a time consuming process but easy.

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I can't wait to get my s14 SR this week. Im going to be putting my engine in my 97 s14. I don't think the swap will be hard at all, I only have one question. I found all of the pin-out's and downloaded both FSM's. Im somewhat confused about the re-pinning. I guess I want to know if for e.g.( pin 1 from m63, goes to the pin 1 spot on F4, pin 2 spot from m63 goes to spot 2 on f4, and so on)? When Im finished I will post the pin-out, and color codes because all 3 that I found from the search are different. I need to look at the FSM again but I don't remember it telling what each pin was for, and each pin's wire color.

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^ I looked at the FSM again, and it looks like the KA F3 plug, plugs into M63. I assume I need to make the SR's F4 plug match the KA's F3 plug so it will successfully plug into m63.

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Yes ...you need to convert your f4 plug to the m63.

here is something that might help you out. Not perfect but a good start.



I used this along with both FSM's to get my swap right.

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^ Thanks, helpful. Since Im retarded what are the numbers outside of the grid area?

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somebody needs to make a wiring thread for on here for it, so your rewiring the ecu to dash plug?

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^ I think I have all of the wiring figured out. When I get my engine , and if it works I will take pics+ a write up. I went through and figured it out myself then compared what I did to 2 other people. My re-pin matched the other 2 so I hope it works. If it decides not to work than that sucks, but it's not to hard so it should.

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http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/....html

that should be about everything you need to know. installation wise the motor is a direct drop in.

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thanks man

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david200095367 wrote:http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/....html

that should be about everything you need to know. installation wise the motor is a direct drop in.
What confused me while reading through that is the ECCS relays part.

Granted, I don't have access to the car at this moment, but I could have sworn I had two down there. . .This is the blue and white boxes roughly an inch high, correct?

God this is going to suck for me. I know practically nothing with wiring or "repinning" a harness. Dun du duhhhh.

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CRyan wrote:
What confused me while reading through that is the ECCS relays part.

Granted, I don't have access to the car at this moment, but I could have sworn I had two down there. . .This is the blue and white boxes roughly an inch high, correct?

God this is going to suck for me. I know practically nothing with wiring or "repinning" a harness. Dun du duhhhh.
I have a blue and brown color.

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CRyan wrote:
What confused me while reading through that is the ECCS relays part.

Granted, I don't have access to the car at this moment, but I could have sworn I had two down there. . .This is the blue and white boxes roughly an inch high, correct?

God this is going to suck for me. I know practically nothing with wiring or "repinning" a harness. Dun du duhhhh.
yes you dont have to repin the relays if thats what you are saying.

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CRyan wrote:
What confused me while reading through that is the ECCS relays part.

Granted, I don't have access to the car at this moment, but I could have sworn I had two down there. . .This is the blue and white boxes roughly an inch high, correct?

God this is going to suck for me. I know practically nothing with wiring or "repinning" a harness. Dun du duhhhh.
i sent you an email


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