s14 or sr20det intercooler kits on s13 ka24de

[BackIntoAnS13]

looking into getting the greddy turbo kit for my s13 here like in 2 months. Got to finish my motor build and the question that i wanted to ask is...... does anyone know if i were to buy the greddy vspl intercooler kit that is made for the s14 work on my s13 and also what if i bought an intercooler kit that was made for an sr20. A friend of mine told me that he bought an intercooler kit that was made for an s13 sr20det and that it would work for the ka. I just want to make sure if he's an idiot or not and which intercooler kit i should buy. oh yeah i did search but there yes or no answers. More i dont know answers to tell you the truth. Thanks

PS i know the intercooler itself will work im looking to see if the piping works with the ka24de with no modifications.

[Craving4Boost]

I bought an intercooler kit for my KA-T and it still needed modifications...so...yeah.I'm sure a SR intercooler kit can fit since the motors are basically aligned in the same way but when dealing with turbo you'll soon realize that nothing is plug and play. No worries though, if everything was plug and play then people wouldn't really strive to become DIY guys. The s14 intercooler kit probably would need some modifications as well.

[BackIntoAnS13]

cool thanks man thats the answer i was looking for. What mods did you have to take into making your kit work with your ka? Did you just have to figure out the hot pipe side??

[Craving4Boost]

My cold pipe had to put cut only about 2 inches shorter. But to not tamper with the bends, I had to slice the 2 inches off the middle and get it rewelded. The hotpipe, however, I just had to cut off a couple inches of one end. Do you have something to cut pipes? If so, just buy some pipes, some couplers, and make your own kit. It will make it fit soooo much better since it's made for your set up. It's possible to make your own intercooler kit without any welding, just cutting and couplers.

[BackIntoAnS13]

no i dont have anything to cut pipes with and yeah thats what my friend did was cut and use couplers to fit his piping to his interooler. He actually used his injen cai piping. Sorry for such a stupid question but where would you buy piping from?? Is there a specific shop you have gotten yours or just any type of hardware store?? Thanks for the help craving4boost, appreciate it.

[Craving4Boost]

Depends on the quality you want and your budget. Check this intercooler pipe kit from ebay...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...WDVW I'm not sure of the quality of those T-bolt clamps though...might hold...might not.

theres lots of cheap kits like these on ebay. Do you need an intercooler as well or just the pipings?

Or if you want more quality and sturdiness...check out summitracing.com for J and U bend pipes.

Also, I would reccomend this welding thread from hondatech[url=http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1022818[/url] I know you're not running a honda but a lot of welder/DIY people post up where to get cheap pipes and such. It's a Sticky

[BackIntoAnS13]

i will also need an intercooler. My budget is not low by any means but i dont mind spending the money. I have learned the hard way that "you get what you paid for" so i dont mind spending money. May take me a lil longer to get some things then some folks but in the end i get what i want. Like i said im building my motor right now so wont be turboed until maybe april or may. I got to get it done before the summer but im always looking into getting little things here and there.

[Craving4Boost]

What kind of intercooler set up are you planning to do? front mount? V-Mount? sidemount? Or maybe even no intercooler with water injection.

[BackIntoAnS13]

front mount

[Charlie240sxt]

get a s13 kit for the SR or ka(there both out there)it should be pretty close. The throttle body is about the same place on the s13 SR. The s14 SR uses a high port intake and the throttle body sits alot higher.

[BackIntoAnS13]

cool, can you point me in the right direction to get this s13 KA intercooler kit. Ive never seen them on any online store nor ebay. Every kit that i have seen is for the freaking s14 KA. If the s14 KA kit is what your refering too then ill just buy the sr20's seeing how greddy has the new M Spec intercooler kit for $445. Craving4boost i was searching for wideband systems and i ran across your post of the plx m-300. What are your impressions of it now if you still have it seeing how that thread was back in 2005.

[Craving4Boost]

noooo don't look at my old posts! it's too embarassing haha..

http://www.streetrays.com/cata...=2970

This is where I got my plx m-300 from. It's free shipping but it used to be cheaper, around the 280$ range. Under 300$ still good though but I recall pretty recently someone from the Ka-t.org/forums classifieds section was selling this same wideband sensor for 250$ + shipping.

I like this wideband sensor and it has very accurate readings. A lot of people has mixed feelings about other wideband sensors but I have yet to hear a bad review about the plx m300. The only Con I would say is that there is no output for a laptop to datalog my readings. Datalogging is recording the stuff your wideband monitors and you can save it on a file to go back and review it. The new versions have datalogging capabilities but the price range is up there at about 4-500$. No worries though, just get a video camera and have someone record your AFR's

[BackIntoAnS13]

i think that is the one that im going to be getting. I was thinking of the NGK one but havent really read much about on here. What turbo kit are you running? Did you piece together one? hope you dont mind me asking, i was just wondering about my other options if i decided not to go with the greddy kit.

[Craving4Boost]

I run a custom kit with Boostdesigns intercooler kit. It's not really a good kit and you probably can't do much research on them since they died out on a bad note.

Personally, I believe you shouldn't go with the Greddy kit. I think you should get the JGS kit from http://jgsturbo.com/index2.html . I like this manifold because it's cheap, durable, and you can make the turbo flange where you choose so it will clear your brake master cylinder. There will be more things you need but just ask what your confused about. If you have good money to spend, check out Grounzero's manifold or Turbo240.

[BackIntoAnS13]

The only thing that worries me about going custom is that i dont know squat about tuning turbo motors. There are shops around my area but i dont really trust them and i would HATE to blow my motor. Thats why i prefer a "KIT". Can you tell me YOUR reasons of not choosing that kit. At the end of this, if i can build a turbo system to be reliable with the help of you and others i might just lean that way.

[Craving4Boost]

Well, the greddy turbo kit comes with emanage but is tuned for an s14 and will not work.

I think the easiest and best way to go for a new person to turbo is rom tune + SAFC. Look up JWT or Enthalpy tunes. with the Rom tunes, most of the tuning is done for you and will give you that street drivability that you probably desire. With the SAFC in addition to it, you can do some fine tuning to your needs. And don't worry, SAFC is very easy to use and you should learn how to use it in a short matter of time. I run the enthalpy tune + SAFC. Together costs about 750$ brand new.

You can run the SAFC + MSD BTM combo but most new people seem to struggle with it for some reason. Not sure why really....

[BackIntoAnS13]

thanks for the info, i think im going to go with the AMS kit. Ill just have to piece together everything else. Any suggestions for the extra things ill need?

[Craving4Boost]

Come up with a list and I'll let you know what you should get rid of or add. Don't forget downpipe and turbo wrap though. Some people tend to forget it since it doesnt come with most kits and melt their brake master cylinder.

[BackIntoAnS13]

Ok here is what i have going on right now and what parts i have.

Ka24de rebuildWiseco 8:5:1 Forged Pistson Eagle RodsARP Head, Main and Rod Studs.Nissam OEM Gaskets including Head Gasket ( Was told that i wouldnt need a metal one unless i wanted 400 or more Hp)Clevite Main and Road BearingsMr Gasket Copper Exhaust GasketSpec stage 3 ClutchSpec Auminum Fly WheelKoyo RadiatorFlex-a-lite Dual Electric Fans with thermostat Nismo thermastat

What I plan to buy in the coming months

Greddy Turbo Kit (Maybe) more then likely not so will go with....

Ams Turbo Kit with GT32Walbaro Fuel PumpNismo FPRAms Fuel SystemZ32 MAFGreddy M-Spec FMICEither use greddy Piping or Custom piping with Hks ssqvBoost gauge, Oil Pressure, EGT and WidebandFuel Managment ????

Thats my list for now so please let me know what i need or dont need. thanks man, no ones helped me out more then you and im not talking about people on here im talking bout people in general.

PS Just in case you add it i forgot to mention that i already have a 3" HKS Hi Power exhaust.

[BackIntoAnS13]

and if this helps any im shooting for 300-350 hp. wanna be ably to roll up to the common V8s and just destroy them. also keep it reliable seeing how this is my daily driver.

[Craving4Boost]

looks pretty good and solid. I would go ahead and get an aftermarket Headgasket for that peice of mind. Don't know if you really need the EGT but if you must, go for it. I would prefer getting a water temp gauge instead because the gauge on the cluster sucks balls. It won't tell you you're overheating unless you hit like 220 degrees which is extremeley hot...

As for fuel management, do you know of anyone or a company that are local and have quality tuning capabilities? With such a quality build I'd hate to see a cheap fuel management. Look into the megasquirt and see if you like it. the AEM EMS is going to cost you around 1600$ + tuning but it's going to be one hell of a tune.

I have a ROM tune + SAFC and with your build, I wouldn't go any less than that. I have no regrets with it at all...it's great.

[BackIntoAnS13]

i was just told that i choold use en egt but water temp seems more important seeing how ive already gone though 2 motors with overheating problems. Megasquirt??? what is that never heard of that one. Aem ems i was looking at and yeah your right that thing is expensive but you gotta pay to get the best right?? As far as local shops that are some but ill have to do my research on which ones to take my car too. Rom tune.... what exactly is that. I would probably like to go that route seeing how it hasnt seem to give you any problems.

[nissanfanatic]

Don't go with anything short of a ROM tune for that setup. Full builds like that are so retarded when someone busts out with SAFC and 370s..