s13 wheels/offset HELP!

Post by **one80** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

i've searched, found similiar topics but no cheese!!

to all the wheels/suspension pros out thurrr please help!!!

ok, so i have a a set of tenzo r type c wheels 17x7 +40 offset mounted on 235/45 tires. Im also running on GroundControl coilovers with AGX shocks/struts. The two rear wheels fits fine, doesn't hit coilover but when i mount'em them on the front it RUBS my coilovers!!! if i were to use wheel spacers (even though alot of people don't recomend it) how thick of a wheel spacer should i get just on top of your head if not i'll find out myself but i just wanna be sure.... right now my wheels are "sticking in" i want them FLUSH to give it that great look THANKS!! i need help ASAP my only day off for awhile!!!

THANKS!-steve

Post by **rico05** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

If your stock wheels fit, then a 5mm spacer should do fine as the stockers are +44 IIRC.

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

stocks are 40mm, and only 6" wide,

so let me get this straight, you bought wheels with too high of an offset, and ran a tire thats both too wide for the wheel(depending on mfr) and too tall for effective gearing and you're wanting to use a spacer to fix the problem

You'd need a 5-10mm spacer to "fix" it, but for the love of your car, just get the proper sized tires(for both the car and wheel) and get a set of proper sized wheels(offset) instead of band-aiding your way through performance upgrades like it seems you are doing, spacers cause many problems, which if you searched I am sure you found out our(myself, smith, grant, et al) extreme distaste for spacers and "band-aid" solutions.

do it once, do it right. -chetI would put you stock wheels back on until you figure out a new set of proper wheels and tires for your car man.

Post by **rico05** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

Chet, you are da man. Just had to say that;)

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

hahahaha, thanks. I'm just here to help man

Post by **one80** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

yeah that was my second option... thanks guys. any recomendation on some nice 16inch wheels meant for MY car??? i was thinking about kosei k1s.

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

s14 wheels, if you have a five lug(I am guessing you do not..) kosei K-1's, theres a few enkeis that fit..and any volk will offer multiple offsets for you..-chet

Post by **rbsileighty** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

one80 wrote:yeah that was my second option... thanks guys. any recomendation on some nice 16inch wheels meant for MY car??? i was thinking about kosei k1s.

If I were going to run 16's on a budget... I would get Rota Slipstreams in the 16x7's with the 40mm offset. This offset will put outside lip of the wheel .5" further out, and put the inside of the wheel .5" closer to the strut (http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html). I would think it should fit fine, and the wheel only weighs 13.5 lbs!

I am going with the real version of this wheel, the Rega Master EVO (they are not only "Spoon knockoffs"), in a larger size some time down the road. My stockers will work just fine until I get the EVO's.

This site, http://www.jaydm.com/slipstream.htm, has wheel/tire combos for reasonable prices... but I've never delt with them... so I don't know how their customer service is etc.

Just wondering... is that the "rattle can" paint job or just wet sanding without buffing?

Post by **one80** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

thanks for your input rbsileighty! greatly apreciated... so 40+offset 16x7 rota ss would look " DECENT " i dont want my wheels to be sticking in.. "FLUSH" preferred...

oh btw, its a "RATTLE CAN" paint job, low gloss..after i purchase my wheels the s13s gonna be in for a paint job can't wait..ohyeah anyone selling some sideskirts ?!

thanks!

Post by **rbsileighty** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

I would actually be all over those Rota Slipstreams if I weren't upgrading my brakes. The price is right, the weight is awesome, and the tires are cheap (even good brands/styles).

I was thinking of doing the wetsand thing to my black 92, which is why I was asking about the paint job. Your paint really doesn't look bad... why are you changing it? I'm going with a dark charcoal paint job down the road, but I have a lot of functional items I'd rather put my money toward first. I digress... glad I could help!

Post by **one80** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

any picture of rota ss's on a s13?? maybe that'll motivate me...lol j/k....i always liked the way rota ss looked like...now to think of it..why not... pics pu-leaseee

thanks again rbsileighty

Post by **rbsileighty** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

Glad to help bud, anytime!

Here are some 17'' Desmond Regamaster Brights on a S13, which are another version of the same style of wheel. I am not big on the "bling" of that wheel, but it gets the idea across:

This one's not even a Nissan, but it's a sweet example w/ that style of wheel (Rega):

Couldn't really find any pics of 240's with the Slipstreams... looks like you'll have to set the mark for everyone else!

Post by **one80** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

cool i think i just might!!! what size tires should i run.. 215/50? or maybe even 215/45 on 16x7s

Post by **krazy skwerel** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

rbsileighty wrote:If I were going to run 16's on a budget... I would get Rota Slipstreams in the 16x7's with the 40mm offset. This offset will put outside lip of the wheel .5" further out, and put the inside of the wheel .5" closer to the strut

The wheels he currently has are 17x7 +40 all he would be doing here is losing an inch on the wheel and changing the tires. I would think that if his currnet wheels don't work this set up wouldn't either. I have 15x7 +40 wheels and I am afraid they wont clear coilovers. I am running 205 60 r15 Falken Ziex tires. I am looking to get a wheel in the +32-35 area. Hate this so much becuase I love my wheels a lot.

Post by **rbsileighty** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

Quote » mount'em them on the front it RUBS my coilovers!!![/quote]

Good call Krazy, I guess I didn't read the line above when I was browsing. Looks like a no go for your Rota's bud... sorry, they will definitely rub unless you use a 5mm spacer (if your stockers aren't rubbing). When I read you had ground controls I must have just thought springs and not coilovers. Hybrid (a buddy of mine on the forum) is running spacers on his wheels and he has been fine with them so far. I would never go over a 5mm spacer, and if you do use them make sure you have a decent number of threads showing.

Post by **aither** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

It seems like it is too much tire. For 7", 205 width will give you more room. So, 205/50/16 or 205/45/16. Also, if you did go with a spacer, 15-20 mm should work. The easiest thing would be to just get new wheels, like has been said. K1's are offered in 16x8.5 with a low offset. The problem with looking for wheels with the "correct" offset from the start, is that no one really specializes in 4x114.3, low offset, light weight wheels in the U.S.

Post by **one80** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

yeah, what offset am i to run if i were to get kosei k1 in 16x8s??? or 16x7.5???

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

the 16x7.5 is a great wheel, allowing a 225-50-16 nice sticky tire, get the something below a 35mm offset and it should be fine, a better choice would be a 30mm or 27mm offset...-chet

Post by **one80** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

coool, and is that for sure going to clear my groundcontrol coilovers???

Post by **rbsileighty** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

Start with the stock wheels and measure how much clearance you have from the inside of the wheel to your coilovers. Once you've done this, use this calculator http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html to get an idea if certain wheels will fit.

Post by **skydragoness** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

Exar-Kun wrote:the 16x7.5 is a great wheel, allowing a 225-50-16 nice sticky tire, get the something below a 35mm offset and it should be fine, a better choice would be a 30mm or 27mm offset...-chet

Don't want to post a new thread, so i'll just post a follow-up to your reply Exar.

I plan to go with 16" rims, i believe they are the most versatile rims over 15's because of tires choice, and streetability. Therefore, my question being what offset i should go for with a 16x7 rim? I want to go to the widest width i can go in the rear, (225) is what i've been told i could go. But the Rota Circuit 8's that i'm lusting over are a 40 " offset. Bad, good?

(Oh, I am adding z32 26mm brakes up front shortly. )

mmm..circuit 8's

Post by **rbsileighty** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

The wheel you are looking at is the same size as the Slipstreams One was looking at... if you don't have a coilover setup they might work in a 40 offset. You know that is a Mugen (Honda tuner) copy right? Going by that offset calculator, you will have .5" less clearance between the inside of that wheel compared to your stock wheels.

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

thats "bad" SD. Keep it arounda 38mm offset or less in a 7" wheel. especially with Z brakes, you run into the problems of spoke clearance, and those may hit. you have much more clearance in the back than front, I've seen peope run the kosei K1 16x8.5" in the rear of s13's with no problems, but I dont reccomend it since there is relaly no additional benifit to spliting the offsets and widths like that in such a light car(with such little power :P)-chet

Post by **skydragoness** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:59 am

*sigh* my wheel search continues. I really do like the Kosei k-1's. But they're out of my price range. We'll see. Thanks for the info.

s13 wheels/offset HELP!

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