S13 wheel offset

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WeldingHank
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what would 15X8 +6 offset look like on my S13? would it fit on the front and back?


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SmithSR
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It will fit on the car, assuming you have the correct bolt pattern wheel, but will stick out from under the front fender about 29mm using a plum bob on level ground.

I would pass on those.

WeldingHank
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sounds good, now i've found some 16X8 +27's

BuudWeizErr
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they will fit nice with some camber.might need to roll not pull fenders or run stretch tire depending on ride height.good size though. i'd rock them.
WeldingHank wrote:sounds good, now i've found some 16X8 +27's
those will be sunken. need 10-15mm spacer to look ok.

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SmithSR
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Never try to reverse-engineer a car's alignment by dumping camber while trying to fit the wrong wheel and hence, limiting tire contact patch to the extreme inner edge of the tire, just for the sake of clearing a wheel. If you spent only a few short days in the tire replacement industry, you'd gain a better understanding as to why.

Daily driven cars shouldn't be hacked and backyarded just to fit wheels that have wrong offsets for the application.

A show car can be modified to one's liking. Those usually get pushed to and from their show booths. A daily car that actually sees real world driving conditions, where mileage and tread life are of some concern needs tires, wheels, and alignment settings that offer SOME longevity, not this "I saw it on the video so I have to have it for my commuter car" nonsense.

BuudWeizErr
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i run -2.5f and -1.75r every day on 17x9 +15 with 0 toe.my treadwear is very good. and the car handles great. but i have coilovers and other assorted arms.

if you want to roll sunken wheels, go for it, but prepare to be made fun of.if you want a flush wheel, you might have to work at it.

it's not like 1-2 degrees of camber makes that much difference in tread wear. not talking like 8 degrees here. thats why i said 'some' camber.

an 8" wheel with a +6 offset is easier to make fit than a 9" +15

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Dori Dori
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WeldingHank, if you want to take some measurements of your own, the stock wheel size is 15x6 +40. Use the wheel offset calc, http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html and you'll see how much farther out the wheels will come then you can make the decision on your own.

I can tell you that an 8" wide wheel with a mid 20's offset looks perfect on the front of an S13 to me. By the actual text book definition of flush, it would be almost perfectly flush.

Now, using the gayDM new school definition of flush, an 8" wheel with a +27 offset will be 'sunken' and yes, you will be laughed at. Rest assured though, the only people that will be laughing at you have IQ's equivalent to birds...maybe worse. These are people that rely on the acceptance of others to survive. It’s odd though that they desire acceptance and fear rejection from other fuctards just like them.

WeldingHank
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so i'll just put on spacers where needed to be "acceptably flush"

chmercer
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why would you want to hastle with spacers if you can just get a good sized wheel.

BuudWeizErr
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Dori Dori wrote:Now, using the gayDM new school definition of flush, an 8" wheel with a +27 offset will be 'sunken' and yes, you will be laughed at. Rest assured though, the only people that will be laughing at you have IQ's equivalent to birds...maybe worse. These are people that rely on the acceptance of others to survive. It’s odd though that they desire acceptance and fear rejection from other fuctards just like them.
whatever makes you rest easier at night buddy.

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Exar-Kun
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Handles great......

compared to?

seriously now...do you honestly think ANY of us can out engineer a japanese suspension designer? I don't think so. If you can, please let me know, I need to get some questions about a road race setup answered.

OTHERWISE, what dori and smithsr said is right. Keeping the wheel in propper offset and width will make the car handle better and more predictably, increase treadwear (which, by the way..even treadwear means the tires contact patch has better utilization...) and keep you from screwing with sensitive things that most people here don't have any business messing with:-scrub radious, kingpin inclinations, front to rear wheel centerline differentiation, suspension alignment/geometry(more than just the readings folks..the frame/arm interaction) etc, etc...

Sure if you want to be a mad-tight drifter or whatever, you may not give a damned about those things..you just want it to look a certain way, and since your main goal is to smoke the crap out of a tire anyways..true static traction and other things don't really matter, much less hub stress, etc...

If so, please just say "I want to make it look cool with big/wide wheels"

We'll be more than happy to tell you howto screw up the engineering that some of Japans finest engineers put into your car-just so you can look cool.seriously.

-Chet

chmercer
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First off let me say that half of the time, my alignment choices are guided by things like "how close to the ground can i get my car without shredding my wiring harness" so anything i say should be taken more from an aesthetic standpoint rather than chet's 100% function view.

not arguing with you chet, or your wheel sizing/allignment principles, since they make a lot more sense than mine, but i think the "japanese engineering" argument is pretty weak. it was engineered to be driven to work, school, grocery store, and home, and clear every speed bump on the way with flying colors. If it was engineered to be a race car, things would look a lot different. (not saying that they would engineer it to have 18x11 -5 wheels all around with 5 camber, but you get my point.)

BuudWeizErr
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Wide wheel, stretched tire, low offset.Now functional, not just for looks!

I couldn't out engineer my way out of a cardboard box. But I can follow what other people do to achieve what I want out of my car with the best of them. Plus I can also make adjustments that people haven't done before in an attempt to test what works best for me.


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