s13 w/ RB25- Suspension?

[bmadd2402]

My engine is runny pretty well, so its time to blow some cash on the suspension. yes, my question is related to suspension, but more specifically to RB engine cars. I am looking for coilovers, and was wondering what some of you are running. I would assume that we are doing something diffeerent than the KA/SR crowd, but I could be wrong. what is some of your inputs? my car will see some time trials, and a little sideways action. not treally worried about streetability, but dont have the $ to totally race prep the chassis to handle the stress from super high spring rates and metal bushings. I also am not a good enough driver to go full blown ultra race anything. so what do you guys think? up the front spring rate a bit?

[Joe]

you dont need to do anything different than an off the shelf system for your car.

since its a street car essientally id reccomend 8/6 spring rates. will be stiff..but still bearable. your budget is gonna have alot to do with suspension too.

[mean green s14]

get some megan street series coilovers, 8/6 spring rate , adj camber plates, 32 way adj , same as the apexi coilovers , under 900.00 shipped.

problem solved

[bmadd2402]

yeah, but edfc is soooo cool.

[AmoebAssassin]

yeah, but edfc is soooo cool.

Tein overcharges for substandard, yesterday's-technology products. No non-inverted multitube shock is worth the mild convenience of EDFC.

[Joe]

Tein overcharges for substandard, yesterday's-technology products. No non-inverted multitube shock is worth the mild convenience of EDFC.

tein's entry level stuff is sub-standard but their track orientated stuff is phenominal. RA's, superdrifts, etc.

[bmadd2402]

I was a little concerned with the quality of the megan equipment. a lot of people have em. I was thinking TEIN flex or superdrifts. I dunno.

[Carl H]

silkroads 4 lyphe yo!seriously tho i had them on my s13 with a rb20 in it and it was loads of fun.

[Joe]

i would highly reccomend against the superdrifts for a daily driven car. they are uber stiff.

[bmadd2402]

so, how about the megans? any good? I will be competing with them. I just dont want to spend 900 bucks to get a deal when I could spend 1500 for the better product. please keep this thread here, so I can get input from who is running the same potential setup.

[pancho y onions]

If your not ready to take full advantge of a really nice bult suspension, Then just buy some AGX ,Koni agustable shocks and some Teain sprins and your good to go. Good luck man.

[bmadd2402]

AGX and S-techs are what I got, and wanna step up. I am intimidated by the uber stiffness, as Kamin puts it. I just dont have a lot of money to be wasting, and wanna get as much input as possible.

[bmadd2402]

before I drop over a grand that is.

[240SXplan]

What i have.. Replace Stuts and shocks with EOM stocks... go bigger anti-sway bars front and back.. .. and Tien h-tech springs

I say on a budget it is a smooth ride.. and still handle those turns.. for under 400 bucks..

[mean green s14]

the megan street coilovers are the same as apexi coilovers look at a pic and states side by side and you will see, they are made at the same factory to the same specs, with the apexi coilovers your paying 600 bucks more for the name and a sticker so your cool. trust me just get the megans thats what i ahve on my 90 rb25 240 and i love them thay are very nice and built to last i drift on them all the time and never have any porblems, i guarentee when you open the box and look at them you will thank me

[Bluefire]

the megan street coilovers are the same as apexi coilovers look at a pic and states side by side and you will see, they are made at the same factory to the same specs, with the apexi coilovers your paying 600 bucks more for the name and a sticker so your cool. trust me just get the megans thats what i ahve on my 90 rb25 240 and i love them thay are very nice and built to last i drift on them all the time and never have any porblems, i guarentee when you open the box and look at them you will thank me

I am sure you would like to think your megans are the same as apex'i but they are not!!! The valving is very different!!!

First of all for spring rates you might want to look at something more like 8/4 or 10/6. You have more weight in the front now so you want to go with higher than normal spring weights in the front.

As for choice of coilovers it will mainly depend on your budget. You can read all the different reviews on coilovers, but in the end everyone has a different opinion on how they ride. ie... I feel megans are very stiff even at the lowest setting compared to some of the other coilovers I have tried. And others will disagree with my opinion. You really just have to try them for youself.

Multilink is a must when altering your suspension. You need to be able to have full adjustment of your suspension settings whether your just daily driving the car or tracking it.

Strut bars, bracing, caging are for chassis rigidity, and is really up to you on how far you want to go with it.

Sway bars are personal preference also. You really have to take your car to the track and judge for yourself. different bars will make the car respond differently in corners and you need to decide what kind of feel you prefer.

I know that everything I said is very general and vague, but that is because everyones driving style is different, and you need to find which setup suits you the best.

-Bluefire

[mean green s14]

sorry same valveing ( research )

[Joe]

First of all for spring rates you might want to look at something more like 8/4 or 10/6. You have more weight in the front now so you want to go with higher than normal spring weights in the front.

NO, you do NOT NEED to change rates with the RB swaps. the engine weight differences minimal. adding more front spring will cause more understeer. if ANYTHING you go up 1k in the back. im telling you off the shelf stuff is fine there is no need to mix and match just because you have an engine that weighs a small amount more than the stock one.

[Carl H]

fwiw my s14 sits HIGHER in the front than when the ka was in it, and that was the rb20 fully loaded.

[nismofly]

depends what apex'i youre talking about

if you think megans are the same as apex'i n1, im speechless

anyways, for really good coilovers in that price range, you cant beat KTS

[wawazat8402]

Im running KTS and love them. Ive had them for almost a year. I also like that I can just buy a new set of shocks for them instead of having to send them off to get rebuilt and waiting on them to get back. Great bang for the buck IMO.

[mean green s14]

yes the apexi n1 exv dampers are the same as megan street coilovers with a different color spring and sleeve.

[nismofly]

well i could say that about pretty much all the bargain coilovers, d2 and ksport, tanabe, all those....in that price class you cant beat KTS

and by the way those are just the replacement for the world sports, im talking about the n1 evo's apexi's world class coilover system

[mean green s14]

i wasnt, i just said they are the same as the apexi n1 exv coilovers that are sold for 1399.00 , so why pay 1399 for the exact same thing for 899 just becuase they say apexi on them? and second if apexi has enough confidence in them to put their name on them i would trust that they must be of good quality as apexi has alot to live up too. all im saying is that for 899 these are awsome coilovers and going from tein he's to megans with the same spring rates let me tell you if i had it to do over again i would have bought the megans in the first place and saved 400 bucks. i love them

[nismofly]

for the extra ~200 you spend on KTS theyre above and beyond the megans

also i dont think apexi's too concerned about their low end coilovers, its a wide known fact their low ends arent anything to write home about, same with tein

[Bluefire]

sorry same valveing ( research )

Research huh? You mean search the forums about this RUMOR written up by people who don't know what the hell they are talking about?? If that is your research we can clearly see who is mistaken here... Want to know my research? my research is having physically tried both megan and apex'i coilovers. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. They may have a few components made from the same manufacturer, but that doesn't mean apex'i=megan. They ride completely differently...

Anyways, back to the topic at hand