s13 vs s14

[LFTM-DFTP]

Hey guys I just wanted to hold a little popularity contest to see which is the favourite. It would be great if you guys could post your best knowledge of the pro's and con's of both the cars. Thanks!

[safxtacy]

Its you ca, make your own decision. No fence but thats my opinion. And if you havent aleady seen this.

zerothread/183490

[R6_240sx]

I think the s14s gonna get owned there are a grip of s13 owners on here...

Let the flamin begin on which ones better!!

[kornaz]

S14. Pros:Newer.Sexier lines.Dash is sexy and not so cracky.Nicer seats.5 lugs on SE's.Cons:Same as S13. So +5 For S14's. And i am sure i am forgetting a lot... :D

[SPIRONIUM]

The car is pretty much the same thing mechanicaly

The most noticable difference is that the s14 has an average of about 100lbs more than the s13 depending on which model trims you are comparing.

96+ cars are obdII which is somewhat less desireable imo

You can argue that the s13 fastbacks and convertables have the least amount of torsional rigidity. S13 coupes and s14s probably have marginally stiffer chassis'

Not many real differences other than aesthetics in my opinion.. if thats the case s13's look a hell of a lot better

[tyrannix]

s13s, because you Canadians can import zenkis with CA18s with no hassle, and not have to do any surgery or swaps or anything. some Canadian guy just imported a silvia with 13k or 37k km (forget which) he posted either here or gen chat.

CJ

BTW, the differences are negligable. an s14 will weight just a tad more than an s13 (like the difference between an full and near empty fuel tank worth, remember 8lbs per gallon)

and theoretically an s13 will understeer a bit more, but thats null and void with suspension goodies

get whichever one you can get cheap or like the looks of... or get a toyota (Eseries,Wseries,A series, X series ... corolla, mr2,supra,cressida)

[adrianfromthecastle]

s13 = cheaper, easier to find replacement parts at the junk yard

[kornaz]

I just personally like the S14 body more. Although what Adrian said, it's a lot harder to find parts for them. Specially some minor small parts, and most of the junk yards don't even have them. But i still rock an S14! :D

[zenkii]

I think the s14s gonna get owned there are a grip of s13 owners on here...

Let the flamin begin on which ones better!!

[Morph]

In before the lock,

[Shabbernigdo]

S13 FTW. looks the best out of all of em.

[180sx+silvia=sileighty]

In my opinion like most of the members, both are like the same car mechanically. Its just the chasis style thats different. So its personal prefrence.

[Alfador]

In before the lock,

Actually this thread has remained surprisingly civil, if not somewhat intellectual. People are actually politely discussing merits here. WHAT THE **** HAPPENED?

Meh, in my opinion the S13 is a lot sexier, especially the Hatchback (thats right, its not really a fastback, look it up) Then again I wouldn't scoff at a nice sexy S14 Kouki, although I'm not a huge fan of the tails.

[karmakaze]

i personally prefer the s14 kouki. after owning a zenki, i came to realize that it looks to much like the lovechild result of a camery that fvcked a sc300.

i have seen some s13s that i like. especially the hatchbacks. the main benifit of the s13 is how much cheaper they are.
Modified by karmakaze at 9:46 AM 12/18/2006

[KA-Te]

I just love the agressive look of the kouki.

There aren't too many affordable cars that look so bad@ss completely stock!

2nd fave is s13 vert'.

[SR20Essex]

Its a matter of taste. A nice body kit on an S14 I like as much as a stock S13. S13 Hatchbacks are IMO the classic wedge sports car shape, they are light, and have very advanced suspension technology for the time. The only complaint I have is the lack of strength in chassis design, that design just doesn't hold up well under high "G" turns (I can feel the car twist) even with all the bracing, tower bars, etc. Time for a Roll Cage I guess. I know S14's are wider, stiffer chassis, but they are also heavier. Ive helped work on a couple of S14's but most of the internal parts are interchangeable between S13 & 14 (I have an S14 SR20DET in my S13).

[prsfan]

If I had it to do over again, I'd go S14. I just like the looks better nowadays. But I'm not selling my S13!

[dickie]

lock this thread

[ILikeMy240sx]

the most noobiest thread ever.

In before the LOCKKKKK.

[s13redtaz]

hooray for s13's! but i love the kouki s14's...mmmm

[IHeartTurbo]

I voted for S13's just because I hate how S14's look.

[AmoebAssassin]

S13 Hatchbacks...have very advanced suspension technology for the time. The only complaint I have is the lack of strength in chassis design, that design just doesn't hold up well under high "G" turns (I can feel the car twist) even with all the bracing, tower bars, etc. Time for a Roll Cage I guess.

LOL



First of all...S chassis cars have CRAPPY front suspension, and their only real saving grace is the fact that they are light. There was no "advanced" suspension technology in any s-chassis car, ever. It's a standard Mac Strut setup, and like most all other Mac Strut setups, it sucks. Struts suffer from terrible roll center migration characteristics and crappy camber curves. Just about the only way to be fast with MacPhereson struts is to have huge roll bars and high spring rates to prevent roll, and then jack up your static camber to something ridiculous.

Second of all...if you can feel your chassis twisting around you, you probably better buy another shell. Chassis torsion is on the order of 1-5 degrees of twist, and I doubt that is within any human range of perception. A sloppy chassis leads to a car that feels floaty or disconnected during transient maneuvers (turn in and turn out), not a car that feels like its pretzelling itself around the driver.

[CleanSfourteen]

I'm glad someone brought up the S-body's front traction issue, most noticable in the S13 chassis, I favor the S14 in looks and in minor engineering improvements.

About the only thing that makes the S13 compete is the price, i love the hatchbacks and i see them in hoards for 600-900 dollars, which for any decent car is pretty cheap...

[hannibal]

My two cents:I owned a S14 for about a year before totalling it. My next 240 will be an S13, simply because theyre virtually identical mechanically and I rather have a cheaper car with money left over for mods. The appearance matters much less to me the second time around.

The only advantage of a S14 is that its newer and easier to find a low mileage example. Of course, you pay a premium for it...

[socal_S13Demon]

S13 IMO...cheaper and and yeah thats about it...I love my s13

[Raxephon]

I have to pass on the poll since there isn't a "both" option.

[PantherRacer]

S13 Hatch with S14 Kouki front. Best of both worlds, end of thread.