s13 tanny in s14

[1sikS13]

will an s13 transmission fit in an s13, i have searched but have come to no conclusion, thank you very much

[S13Joe]

no it wont its gonna make your car blow up. dont do it, its not worth it.

[s14derrick]

you mean s13 in an s14?it will work but you need to swap speed sensors. and you need to drill the holes for the CAS or use the bellhousing from an s14

[i4jdm]

it does work....wat i did on my 14 was i bought a used 13 transmission and took the guts and swapped them in my 14.....been running for almost 1year now and not a single problem.......

[placham]

Did u use SEARCH??

what s14derrick said,

here is link zerothread/304389 that CPS crankshaft position sensor required for S14's read's of off ring gear.

And u need VSS from US 95+ 240sx or Jspec S14's, plactic, not alloy like S13, because your Speedo will be off. Oh yeah 180sx Type-x Kouki uses this sensor too.

Here is my thread you can see how VSS looks like zerothread?id=378707

But since you have S14 you will not need it, since you have it on your auto trans. Sensor is 120 at parts store, and plastic gear is like 20 IIRC at dealer, dont know if auto/manual uses different plastic gear.

[fresno240sx]

all transmission are the same for the 240sx... only the s14 ones are different because it has the crank angle sensor which is for your speedometer...also the front part of the drive shaft will need to be cut because it will rub or grind against the transmission. i did this to my 95 240sx and it ran poorly, thats why i sold it.

[placham]

Yeah no wonder, since crank angle sensor has nothing to do with your speedometer. More like for OBD2 buddy.

Did you get the right drive shaft for your set-up?

[fresno240sx]

yeah thats right. my bad.. i did got the right drive shaft. i got the manual s14 driveshaft from a 95 and it rubbed the transmission so i had to cut the very top part to make it from grinding against the transmission.

[placham]

Are you talking about the tail shaft dust shield (metal thing) where D-s slines into the trans????

Might be difference between S13 and S14 dust shields, or maybe you had nonABS drive shaft and put it into ABS S14. I dont know.

[fresno240sx]

your right. that thing..i had to cut that off. i believe that the s14 transmission's dust shield is different from the s13. my drive shaft is not abs because the car that i took it off from had no abs.

[placham]

Got ya, is your car ABS , do you have a sensor on front of your diff pinion where end of D-shaft bolts onto diff??

[fresno240sx]

no..my car does not have abs by the diff. it does not have it also on the front engine bay area. if it does, i would of notice that big abs unit on the left hand corner of the enigne bay.

[diggles240]

Here is my thread you can see how VSS looks like zerothread?id=378707

But since you have S14 you will not need it, since you have it on your auto trans. Sensor is 120 at parts store, and plastic gear is like 20 IIRC at dealer, dont know if auto/manual uses different plastic gear.

Check this out for the question in your other thread: 240sx Speed Sensor tutorial. I am also unclear if the M/T speedometer pinion gear is interchangeable with the A/T pinion gear. I know the A/T speed sensor shaft is larger than the M/T shaft, so that leads me to believe that the pinion gears may not be interchangeable, but I have not been able to find any evidence of this and am unable to compare both parts side by side. I have the M/T speed sensor without the pinion gear as well. So, if someone has both types of pinion gears, it would be greatly appreciated if they were able to provide some input on this matter.

Kevin

[placham]

I have manual VSS and manual pinion gear, but you will also need new a retainer clip, altima and auto S14 have this type of VSS from what I have personally seen. Think maxima and maybe J30 an q45 use this style of sensor.

I'm not sure, but I think auto and manual S14 VSS are the same.

If your asking which one, its the black one made from plastic, I don't think the one on the right is S14 looks like S13. I pretty sure S14's didn't use alloy style of sensor.

And both are interchangeable into trans, difference is that your speedo will be off. If you use the wring one for your car.

[fresno240sx]

the ss of the s13 and s14 is different. even for auto and manual. i tried a s13 ss on my s14 5 speed conversion and my speedometer reads double. i also try the auto ss from the s14 on the s13 transmission and it does not fit. you can't swap the gears because its different. try to compare it and you will see.

[diggles240]

The A/T and M/T speed sensors are not the same. The mounting point/bolt hole is in a different location in relation to the harness connector. Also, the shaft of the A/T sensor has a larger diameter than the M/T sensor and thus will not fit inside the speed sensor hole for the M/T. I realize the s14 speed sensor is made of black plastic and the s13 sensor has an alloy housing. I posted the link because you requested a picture of the s14 speed sensor in your other thread. It sound as if we are talking the same thing, maybe just in a different way

[placham]

okay so S14 VSS auto and manual sensors are physically different. But manual S14 sensor will work in S13 trans. I'm glade I bough the S14 VSS for manual and not auto.

[blacksrjdm]

will an s13 transmission fit in an s13, i have searched but have come to no conclusion, thank you very much

No, just no, wouldnt ever fit. U cant take a transmission out and put it in the same car, come one that wont work....

Hey where do you get a tanny anyway...

I'm just messin, could have left it alone, but that wouldnt be me....

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Modified by blacksrjdm at 8:31 AM 1/14/2009

[diggles240]

Am I correct in assuming that an s14 M/T pinion gear and retainer clip are required for the s14 M/T speed sensor? Thanks.

[s14derrick]

from my understanding all you had to do was swap the s13 manual speed sensor for the s14 manual speed sensor. but what do i know im still looking for a writeup on drilling the CAS hole on the s13 bellhousing

[diggles240]

from my understanding all you had to do was swap the s13 manual speed sensor for the s14 manual speed sensor. but what do i know im still looking for a writeup on drilling the CAS hole on the s13 bellhousing

You can use the s13 speed sensor in an s14 chassis, but your speedo/odometer will not read correctly. I will be doing a write-up for drilling the hole for the CKPS when I get the template from another member This issue seems to be coming up more lately and hopefully it will be beneficial to other members who are unable to find an s14 bell housing also.

[s14derrick]

if you could post up a writeup and a template i would be most pleased. most pleased indeed

[placham]

If you have S14, just use the bell housing from auto trans to get the shape of the hole for CPS, S14 auto and manual both use this CPS sensor. You just have to trace and transfer this onto your S13 manual trans(the victim haha) and perform your surgery.