s13 & s14 Owners with Solid Sub Frame Bushing!

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I killed the thread as it caused to much crazyness!
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I've been Grip driving & drifting on my new rear sub frame collars and i have to say they are worth it. They work in conjunction with my rear anti -sway bar by way of helping the rear of the car stay flat when cornering hard. They also reduce any up & down play that was noticeably present. thats the good , but what your talking about , needing extra spacers and all that , i just dont see it even being an issue.

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JDS Performance wrote:
well of course you have coilovers to fix the ride height issuse - what about the guy using shocks/spring setups? They cant adjust ride height!Unless they buy spacers.

When you install the solid aluminum subframe bushings (on a s14 chassis) not sure about the s13?The rear of the car drops about 1/4" +- - no thats not much - but why is the question I am asking - why not bring it back to normal(factory) ride height without a spacer?
I still dont understand your question. Why do you have interest in installing aftermarket suspesnion parts , then wanting to bring the car back to its factory ride height? Are you worried about the control arm issues when lowering a car?

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JDS Performance wrote:
wow~!

Ok here it is;

1 - We do not have coilovers we are on shocks/springs setup2 - The solid aluminum sub frame bushings make the rear of the car drop (lower) 1/4" or so3 - that makes your car look stupid - ie - the front is higher than the rear4 - so you "have to" use spacers to fix this!5 - I dont want to use sapcers to fix this issue6 - I want to know why who ever designed the solid bushings - did not address this issue to begin with?

7 - and last of all - to the owners using the spacers to fix this issue - would you not rather the bushing be taller to fix this - than using spacers

man I hope you understand now - I dont think I can explain it any better
I didnt design the bushings , so cannot answer your question. Good luck in finding the information you seek Mr. JDS Performance.

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Thanx -

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Slappy wrote:I've been Grip driving & drifting on my new rear sub frame collars and i have to say they are worth it. They work in conjunction with my rear anti -sway bar by way of helping the rear of the car stay flat when cornering hard. They also reduce any up & down play that was noticeably present. thats the good , but what your talking about , needing extra spacers and all that , i just dont see it even being an issue.
Hey Slappy, how do you like those solid bushings? Is it on a DD car? Any regrets? Im considering installing these this winter and am apprehensive because of the stories ive heard of increased harshness and noise.

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I have a design coming out that will dapen/soften the noise

but you didnt ask me - sorry

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jiggy180 wrote:
Hey Slappy, how do you like those solid bushings? Is it on a DD car? Any regrets? Im considering installing these this winter and am apprehensive because of the stories ive heard of increased harshness and noise.
Well , besides the description i already gave , i think they go well with the other mods i have. Yes , its my DD , there is some noises , but i have solid motor mounts , and Buddy Club non reclineable seat ect. I dont mind driving a car thats kinda harsh. If you wanna wait until JDS Performance to come out with theres , then thats fine..........BUT

All they are is aluminum collars , I bought mine from ggtyler on EBAY , They cost me $33.00. I put them up to my friends KAZAMA collars , and they were 100% the same exact thing but he paid $110.00 for his.

Here is the guys ebay store ,

http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZggtyler

Now , he doesnt always have them in stock , so you have to keep checking back. Or you can go with some other ones , but if you pay more than $50 for a set , then you fail.

Here is mine.....remember , $33



And here is Kazama $110.00




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I am coming out with a redesigned solid aluminum subframe bushing kit - not the collars (Those are just a band-aid)

As well as a hard rubber inserts for my kit and also for already installed solid bushing owners.

To aid in dampning noise/vibrations in the cabin - without sacrificing the performance of the bushings themselves.

should be ready mid Nov.! - check my website for all details if interested

I dont have anything for the people using the collars. - except pulling them and using the soild bushings!

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I like to see how they turn out. But i wouldnt call what i have a "band-aid" they do exactly what they are designed to do.

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sorry for the termanology I used - I consider the collars that - as the rubber bushings can still go bad and the collars would be no good then - maybe add the wendo-weld after?

I will keep you updated if you like - we are in testing now.I will not put a product out that I dont think is performing as expected.As long as our design works out like planned - I think our deal is going to be a really good one. Check website on the deatils.

If you give me your email address I will add you to the bushing list.

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Emailed.

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Thanks for the info Slappy! Appreciate it.

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Welcome.

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i just bought spl solid aluminum bushings lol but it wont be installed for quite some time... heh.. will follow this thread though

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"Hey man we finally finshed up our testing and have the bushing ready to ship out - check website for all details - Thanx man! http://www.NIPerformance.org "

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Slappy wrote:"Hey man we finally finshed up our testing and have the bushing ready to ship out - check website for all details - Thanx man! http://www.NIPerformance.org "
Thanx Slappy - yes we have our bushing finished up - testing is done - alot of testing and R&D went into the desin of these bushings - they are not just some copy of another manufactors design - these are made to our specs - plus we came up with the idea on using the hard rubber inserts.I kept the daily drivers in mind as well as the full blown track cars in the R&D on this design.

Our new design - will keep the subframe at factory spec- they are moddified to help in installing them in the subframe and back onto the car- will are give a free set of our custom hard rubber inserts to soften/dampen noise/vibration in the cabin made from the install of solid bushings- Free shipping anywhere in the US- Free Deatiled Install DVD - http://www.240SXTECHDVDS.org

Price is $120.00 Free Shipping in the UShttp://www.NIPerformance.org

We are selling just the hard rubber inserts to users with solid bushings already installed as well - you can use more than 1 set to reduce more noise/vibrations in the cabin - but the more you use the more you will be taking away from the performance of the solid bushings

These are $12.00 Free shipping in the US

Please check website for more details, sneak peek, buy now buttons, Free FSM downloadswww240SXTECHDVDS.orghttp://www.NIPerformance.org


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