s13 rear brake upgrade?

[chris_240sx]

im goin to be installing the Q45 rotors and calipers up front and i was wondering what i should do with the rear brakes....what are you using in the rear or what is a good upgrade? i was thinking just some better pads or maybe some slotted rotors???other options? thanks

[Exar-Kun]

some nice pads, ss lines and slotted rotors will work just fine.-chet

[chris_240sx]

thanks ill give that a try

[Exar-Kun]

try and find some axxis ultimates, its a great pad for street/light track.-chet

[180fan]

or you could try to get some endless pads. a buddy of mine bought his for 100 a side...

[D1SR240]

i believe there is a member here on nico who has his website (kadevelopment.com) or something like tha and if i believe correctly he has supra brakes in the rear. you might wanna run a search on that.

~swave

[POS_S13]

aren't 180sx calipers bigger than 240 calipers?

[hannibal]

IIRC, silvia K's had bigger brakes than 'lesser' silvias. dont know how this applies to the 180sx.

posted by Dauer in another threadI fell your pain, I too am on a quest to know what wheels clear the z32 brakes or in my case s14 silvia K's brakes which are identical to 30mm z32 brakes.

[nlzmo400r]

f4o calipers work, just gotta get bigger lines, rotors and clearance

[barrigas14]

hawk pads. endless too much money. bad experiances with axxis...too much brake fade.

[180crafter]

i believe there is a member here on nico who has his website (kadevelopment.com) or something like tha and if i believe correctly he has supra brakes in the rear. you might wanna run a search on that.

~swave

we need to get this guy to tell us what he is doin!!!

[daniel]

why?

whats wrong with Z32/R32 rear brakes?

they ebrake locks so fast omfg its not even funny.

those with some R4-E pads would ROCK. yeah....

I like HC Titan Kai for the front but they eat rotors like a raver eats pills

[180fan]

hmm what's the operating temp range for the Titan Kai's? If you're using pads that aren't built for the right operating temps, you'll shorten pad and rotor life

[daniel]

haha bro

dont worryits fine

they're just full titanium/carbon so they eat rotorsregardless

haha project mu makes a special rotor to use with that pad i just dont have the money or care enough to use it..fyi

hc titan kai is like 0-800*c

[180crafter]

Beacuse I have a full suspension that I am not willing to part with for z32 uprights.....

[daniel]

you dont need the ****ing uprights to run Z32 rear brakes

whoever told you that is retarded.

[Exar-Kun]

I'm pretty sure you have to use the Z32 spindles for the caliper and stuff to bolt on....esspecially the parking brake...-chetSCC did their write up, and had to use Z32 rear alluminum spindles.

[sapix @ RHIT]

They used the Z32 rear suspension because they wanted to save the weight with the Z32 uprights. The brake upgrade doesn't require the change. Even a five lug swap in the rear doesn't require the Z32 uprights.

[Dori Dori]

Stock spindles work, you just have to mount the new p-brake hardware.

[Exar-Kun]

wlel, I knew you didnt need them for the 5 lug conversion, but I was under the (apparently mistaken) impression the caliper didnt bolt into the rear s13 spindles.

oh well, lesson learned good to know!-chet

[180crafter]

Dori Dori, Thank you for the seemingly civilized answer.

Danny-boy... Calm yourself. You do not need to be such a bastard.

[daniel]

180

im not a bastard.i am tired

very tired

of WRONG INFO being spread around...seriouslywhy the hell would you need to put the spindle on? its pointless..and anyway..it doesnt help any.

Z32/S13/A31/Y32/C33/R32(only some model) sus interchange 98% of the stuff.. all Z32 and S13 is the same save a few balljoints here and there...hell you can even get a R32 GTS-t M rear subframe and bolt it up to S13..its to stiff though.

S15 subframe is a lot better...but you need S14 arms for the rear

see what i mean?

alsoif you're using Q45 rotor/caliper in front stock brake will be fine, but Q45 rotor/caliper is a waste...might as well spend the same money get Z32 f/r

also

Silvia K brakes are 1" bigger in diaooooo

haha

[crzycav86]

I'm putting the z32 rear knuckles on my car this summer... as well as the rear brakes, vlsd, and coilovers. And I'm staying 4-LUG. Less unsprung weight will give better handling and response... it's not useless. All you need is to change a ball joint and the rear casings..

Also, the aluminum spindle is about 8 pounds lighter PER SIDE.. a significant unsprung weight savings...

[daniel]

uhcrzcav86

how are you planning on putting Z32 VLSD? please tell me

it is R230Vwhich is 230mm

s13/14 etc., et.c, isR200

200mmplease tell me how you are planning to do this!thanks!

unless the n/a model has R200??

[Exar-Kun]

"how are you planning on putting Z32 VLSD? please tell me"

how about you check the 240sx.org installs.

also, you need to seriously chill out man. allunmimun Z32 spindles are nice to have, weight savings, esspecially unsprung weight savings, are always good. relax yourself, I'm sure I was not the only one under the impression you needed the spindles and such to complete a rear 300zx brake swap.

also, as for the q45 verus z32 thing you brought up, I suggest you check the article in GRM(conveiniently in the thread "read this or be beaten.." seeing as how the stock 240sx brakes are capable of locking tires up, and people complain about the extra "compliance" in a Z32 setup, even after the m/c swap(since the MC is alrger, it requires more effort...)

the larger than stock 240, larger rotor q45 brake setup seems quite logicall and a great choice if you dont think you'll overheat them(and 99% of the population wont..those brakes were on a 4500lb car, after all...)

so relax man, you're new here, try not to ruin your welcome so quickly. we're all here to learn, even if we think we know everything///

"the minute you think you know everything, you know nothing"-chet

[daniel]

jesus

i didnt know you could use 300zx vlsd

i knwo the turbo model has R230V because i used 4 of its input flanges on a R230 install in a S30

see..loook at the last line in my postand

seriously i never said stock brakes were bad

1. i like z32 brakes because i have em laying around2. i like z32 brakes because they have drum actuated rear ebrake which locks faster than oem lot more fun k?3. i like z32 brakes because teh rotor is thicker, i really want to get some Z33 calipers and run those.

[crzycav86]

unless the n/a model has R200??

Correct. (owned)

[crzycav86]

jesus

i didnt know you could use 300zx vlsd

i knwo the turbo model has R230V because i used 4 of its input flanges on a R230 install in a S30

see..loook at the last line in my postand

seriously i never said stock brakes were bad

1. i like z32 brakes because i have em laying around2. i like z32 brakes because they have drum actuated rear ebrake which locks faster than oem lot more fun k?3. i like z32 brakes because teh rotor is thicker, i really want to get some Z33 calipers and run those.

It's ok. You were wrong.. no need to get your panties in a bunch. We're all here to learn, and we all make mistakes....

See? You learned something... With a little more humility, you're likely to learn even more.

[Exar-Kun]

It's cool man, I learned something, we're all here to learn I understand why you want to use z32 brakes, I'm just telling you why people go with the q45 brake upgrade and yes, you're right, the intergral rear drum parking brake is fun on Z32 brakes...more of a drifting consideration than anything., if you use the e-brake/parking brake to drift :p

Keep on keeping on man, its good to have a knowledgeable person around I always allow myself a moment of question(I dont know everything, I still buy books, read articles, etc) or specualtion whevner I say something..like the spindle thing, the only reason I thought that was the SCC article and the guys at bapo use them for their conversions, I had never heard or read anything otherwise, but it turns out you dont have to...which when I think about it is freaking sweet.relax and have fun welcome to NICO-someones always smarter than you, except repo man, he's not smarter than anyone.-chet

[crzycav86]

You guys may have already read this, but I'll post it again: http://www.nissanperformancema...40sx/ It talks a little about using the z32 knuckle, and how to use it.

And as for the rear z32 brakes.. I'm just using them because I have them laying around. It's not really worth it to sell them because no one really wants them.. just the fronts.