s13 or s14 ka??

[xS-13x]

can anyone tell me if this is a s13 ka or a s14 ka. i think its an s13 cause i have an s14 and it looks different than the one in the pic. please help. hes tryin to sell it as an s14 but idk.

http://nashville.craigslist.org/pts/1752685194.html

[E7-S14]

ima go ahead and guess s14.
since the add says s14..

sure fire way to tell is by the distributor.
s13s us external coils, s14s dont. distributors are different.

other than that. the s13 dohc and s14 ob1 dohc KA are dam near identical from the outside.
there are a few ways to tell, but you wont be able to check for them in those photos.

now is it worth 700 bucks?
ha!

[Krew126]

One more way to tell is if there are 2 bolts or 3 bolts on the top of the valve cover. The s13 ka has 3 bolts on top, and s14 has two.

[Chris28]

It is an s14 KA. No 3rd bolt on top of the valve cover behind the 4th spark plug, like previously stated.

It's not worth $700 though.

[xS-13x]

ok thanks. i know its not worth 700 but theres no other ones around here and im gonna pay 700+ if i have to ship one in so idk... but what about that fan in the front. my ka doesnt have that. is it supposed to? thanks again for the info.

[numbnuts240]

your engine doesn't have a clutch fan? maybe that's why you need to replace it...

[xS-13x]

idk... whys it a clutch fan? its nowhere near the clutch?

[numbnuts240]

i-i don't even know how to respond to that...

[bersh240]

oohhh myyy....

[scotty-2-forty]

idk... whys it a clutch fan? its nowhere near the clutch?

... and ... the quote of the day!

[xS-13x]

im a noob i understand this flame away i can take it!! lol its my first 240 guys so i dont know everything yet. im a little slow at this. i know im making a complete a** out of myself.

[danmansil80]

from what the post on craigs says its a 95 ka. so it has to be a s14 obd1
the clutch fan as how "numbnuts240" randomly brought up is the fan in front if the engine it is called the "clutch fan" im not exactly sure why its called that but it is. Its controlled by the serpentine belts which are driven by the cranks rotation thus cooling your engine to a certain amount, unless you have a fan shroud.

Now back to the engine. I would not buy this engine. it has a butt load of miles and who knows if the compression is good. unless the seller has a video of him doing a compression test.. i might think about it then. The miles itself are asking for gasket changes and a lot of work.
I would keep looking for something else. or just rebuild what you have. it might be alot more than 700 but you still might want to think about the shipping process and cost. in the end your alot safer and sure that your engine will work instead of guessing and loosing money.

[Chris28]

It's a clutch fan because it works like a clutch. When coolant behind the water pump gets hot enough, it conducts the heat to a thermostatic clutch on the fan and makes it start spinning with the water pump pulley.

Unless you have electric fans you should have that fan. It's necessary for proper radiator cooling.

[xS-13x]

ok thanks for all the info it helps alot. and im tryin to find a ka to rebuild and then maybe boost it. but im not havin any luck finding one near me and i need a new trans so i was just thinkin about pickin this up. thanks again for all the solid info i think im just gonna save my money and buy a sr s13 eventually.

[danmansil80]

ok thanks for all the info it helps alot. and im tryin to find a ka to rebuild and then maybe boost it. but im not havin any luck finding one near me and i need a new trans so i was just thinkin about pickin this up. thanks again for all the solid info i think im just gonna save my money and buy a sr s13 eventually.

if all KAs fail on you then your best bet is SR. i like both engines... you can do just about anything to both.

thanks chris for the extra info

[scotty-2-forty]

My apologies to you xS-13x, but really you must understand that it's a little disconcerting to review that someone is looking into replacing their engine (assumingly), without the common knowledge that clutches don't have fans. Then, with the later statement of being new to the 240, well it really sounds as if you're new to "cars" in general if you don't know what a "clutch fan" is after being directed to the fact that that is what was pictured on the engine in question. No hard feelings, as I don't want to see someone get burned on a potential deal, nor get injured for lack of knowledge.

[xS-13x]

oh i wont. and yes i am new to cars in general. but i got people that will help me out with stuff. i just have to get everything. my dads been working on cars for like the past 40 years so no worries.

[night240]

I would pay $400.00 imo not worth paying $700.

[TheRealNap0le0n]

long blocks in my area go for $500 with a fresh rebuild on them so..... just food for thought.

long block consists of the assembled block with pistons and crank oil pans etc. and dressed head. but no manifolds or accesories

[danmansil80]

long blocks in my area go for $500 with a fresh rebuild on them so..... just food for thought.

long block consists of the assembled block with pistons and crank oil pans etc. and dressed head. but no manifolds or accesories

i would pay that price for sure... if its a fully rebuilt oem long block then i would be happy

[xS-13x]

thats what i offered him. but he wouldnt budge. but that was just on the phone. im goin to look at it tomorrow. to see if its locked up or anything. and my trans is about to go out so i wanna get a spare to rebuild so i can just pop it in. so im not out of a car for a week. or i might just trade the s14 for an s13. i like them more anyway. and ive seen a lot more parts for s13's.

[thomasjamal]

thats what i offered him. but he wouldnt budge. but that was just on the phone. im goin to look at it tomorrow. to see if its locked up or anything. and my trans is about to go out so i wanna get a spare to rebuild so i can just pop it in. so im not out of a car for a week. or i might just trade the s14 for an s13. i like them more anyway. and ive seen a lot more parts for s13's.

If he won't come down from $700 give him a few weeks to realize that nobody is going to pay that and maybe he'll rethink the price...

[scotty-2-forty]

... i might just trade the s14 for an s13. i like them more anyway.

... That's it, we're not friends anymore!

[xS-13x]

im sorry but a boosted slammed s13 hatch is just mean as hell to me. lol

[danmansil80]

im sorry but a boosted slammed s13 hatch is just mean as hell to me. lol

haha its awesome...

[scotty-2-forty]

im sorry but a boosted slammed s13 hatch is just mean as hell to me. lol

Hmmmmm ... well, see ya in my rear view mirror!

[PyR0NiAk]

S13 weighs less... Same mods with equal driver should net the S13 in front... Just saying

[scotty-2-forty]

Factors! Too many factors! Have him come talk to me when he's a worthy opponent capable of what you describe.

[PyR0NiAk]

How about my car in a few months?

[scotty-2-forty]

How about my car in a few months?

C'mon man, now we're just bench racing on a hope. Get it done and bring it to the track. God knows what I could do in a few months too ... fair 'nuff?