Rotor/Brake Upgrade

[thecritik]

Looking to upgrade the rotors and brakes on my M35x. I have found that just like my '04 Maxima, the rotors have warped in the same amount of time, about less than 30,000 miles. I've seen some posts but nothing that points in any one definite direction or another.

I know there are a bunch of aftermarket sources, however because of a bad trip with some Rotorpros and EBC redstuff pads when I had my Max, I want to be very careful what I put on because I was forced to pull them off back then.

Please give input as to what brake/rotor combinations you have put on your M and been successful and unsuccessful with.

I like to drive the M.... Not abuse it but drive it ... The way I think it should be driven and in order to do that we sometimes need to stop pretty quickly.

Thanks in advance....

[ken in az]

Just buy the 2008 G37 sport rotors and calipers, then all you need is the front brake line for the G37 and I'm sure you will never warp those on the street.

BTW - you will need spacers or different rims to clear those calipers and at least 18's since the rotors are 14"

[the_sauce]

Just buy the 2008 G37 sport rotors and calipers, then all you need is the front brake line for the G37 and I'm sure you will never warp those on the street.

BTW - you will need spacers or different rims to clear those calipers and at least 18's since the rotors are 14"

About to do this to my y34!! Car came with warped rotors...

[rgb129]

Where are you guys getting the kits from?

[ken in az]

Riverside infiniti has a kit made for non sport G35 owners to upgrade which requires a special bracket to move the caliper down and out for the front and depending on the year they need a specific drum kit to get the parking brake to work. They say it's $1900 on ebay but it's cheaper on their website directly.

Apparently our cars are set up for a direct replacement with the larger calipers so no need for the bracket and the rear parking brake setup is the same as the G37sport so nothing needed there either. Some say you can just order the parts from infinitipartsusa - everything for the front is less than $700ish if I recall. The rear was like $300 - $400ish so somewhere in the $1200 range for the entire setup.

check it out - it's pretty cheap and everyone raves about the stock setup on the g37sport. All you's need is spacers for the stock wheels to clear the calipers - there is a guy on another website (FA) that has done it and has pics.

[the_sauce]

As my preliminary research has shown, the y34 owners will need the brackets as per the g35 owners, or you can bolt up g35 brembos directly as well.

I will be ordering the full front and rear g35 kit.

[yosM45]

Yeah,

I'm planning on doing it. I just turned my rotors and put on new pads, so I figure it will take me about 15k miles to warp them again.

According to others, It should all be a direct replacement. The only thing I've heard differently is that you may need to trim the rear break dust shield.

You will need larger rims, but more importantly, spacers or a wider off set.

I currently trying out different rims to swap the 19's on my m45, and one of the biggest hod up's is getting somethign wide enough.

The 20" Niche Games I just put on should clear easily.

[83wildcat]

Anyone have any experience with "frozen rotors"??

http://www.frozenrotors.com/

My front disks are warped and need to be re-surfaced. My local Infiniti dealer quoted $100/disk to re-surface, although I could probably have it done cheaper at a general auto repair place. But with $100/disk in mind, I got to looking at frozenrotors and I could get an all new rotor from them for about $150/wheel. They also provide a LIFETIME warranty for warping & cracking. They have a pretty cool looking drilled and slotted "Frozen" Royalty Rotor. They also sell Hawk Perfromance brake pads for $80 (pair of wheels). I could re-do all 4 wheels with new disks & pads for about $770 plus shipping and handling. I don't have a quote from Infiniti to do a 4 wheel brake job with turned rotors, but I would guess it gets close to $600 - $700. So if the frozen rotors and Hawk pads are at least as good as the Infiniti brakes, and have a better warranty, then it seems like a good deal. Anyone with any experience with this? Thanks...

[rgb129]

Where are you guys getting the kits from?

Sorry for the repost...not sure how this happened
Modified by rgb129 at 5:28 AM 3/16/2009

[ken in az]

I just found the kit for sale at everything g35

http://www.g35parts.com/9083/o...913eb

[yosM45]

That's pretty darn close to wholesale cost.

Pretty awesome price.

[ken in az]

that's what I was thinking!

[ken in az]

So I was on the everything g35 website and looked over at the goodridge ss brake lines and clicked on it just to see what they looked like. Well the pic was of a generic kit because I've seen it before, so I look for the part number #22034 and searched online for another vendor that possibly had a picture of the actual kit - and guess what showed up for my search results????

That's right gems....that is the same kit used for our beloved 06' and up M35/45.

Have a great day!

[infinitiandbeyond]

AND if you want those rotors and pads to last for a loooooong time, check out http://www.frozenrotors.com.

Buy from them OR send what you already have to them.

[mikeym45x]

does anyone know if you can fit those g37s brakes on a the 08 OEM 18in wheels that come on the x models? If not will it work with a spacer alone, possibly?

[exbmwdude]

Can anyone confirm if these are a direct bolt-on for the 06-09 M's with the 19" Sport wheels? My fronts are now warped and this would be a killer upgrade. I'd like to avoid spacers if at all possible.

Thanks!

exbmwdude2006 M35S

[InfinitiMe]

I just found the kit for sale at everything g35

http://www.g35parts.com/9083/o...913eb

Looks awesome. I have an 06 x with the stock 18s. What do the spacers need to measure to get enough clearing?

Anyone installed these?

[mikeym45x]

Inifinitime, ill have that answer soon, altho mines an 08 - called Riverside Infiniti he emailed me a template to try, my stock wheels are off right now so it won't be hard to do, if you want I can email you or anyone else wanting to check it the pdf file, maybe someone will get a chance to do it before me.

[jpeters270]

I too had to replace all the rotors and I went with R1 Concepts E-line rotors in all four corners. They are drilled and slotted and dont rust. I purchased the extended life pads and the braking is excellent. I do not drive like Im on a track but lets say spirited. The whole package was 300.00 shipped ( much less than the OE crap) and my buddy put them on for 20.00 per corner. Much better braking. They also have OE replacements as well. Give them a call.....888-712-6623 ask for Sam

[mikeym45x]

the whole package, 4 rotors and pads were 300 total? and you notice a difference in overall power? thats not bad, gunna look into it, if its too much trouble to do the bbk

[M45Caliber]

I've done quite a bit of research and for a bolt on replacement that seems to really perform, I'm ordering the frozen rotors and pads. 41K miles and the high speed shimmy is now there . . . (Y34, BTW)

http://www.frozenrotors.com

A LOT of race teams use these and the rotors last a full season or longer. That's a HUGE difference over stock. So, a bolt on drilled/slotted rotor with reduced heat build up, shorter stopping distances and a lifetime warranty -- for about what the dealer wants for an OEM job. Also, the rotors wear from 200% to 400% better than OEM and pads last much longer too. A Win/Win in my book.

Lot's of aerospace research has been done over the years using cryogenics (typically utilizing liquid nitrogen to cool metals to hundreds of degrees below zero -- this is NOT just sticking your rotors in the freezer at home) to harden and stregthen alloys and steels. The technique is now perfected and these rotors are one of the results. I'd highly recommend you check this alternative out before spending 2 grand on the G37 conversion. BONUS -- found a coupon code worth 15% on your order so if you go online and order, use CODE FR1394 and that should get you 15% off the total - no guarantees but it worked for me.

here's an excerpt from Wikipedia -- The field of cryogenics advanced during World War II when scientists found that metals frozen to low temperatures showed more resistance to wear. Based on this theory of cryogenic hardening, the commercial cryogenic processing industry was founded in 1966 by Ed Busch. With a background in the heat treating industry, Busch founded a company in Detroit called CryoTech in 1966. Though CryoTech later merged with 300 Below to create the largest and oldest commercial cryogenics company in the world, they originally experimented with the possibility of increasing the life of metal tools to anywhere between 200%-400% of the original life expectancy using cryogenic tempering instead of heat treating. This evolved in the late 1990s into the treatment of other parts (that did more than just increase the life of a product) such as amplifier valves (improved sound quality), baseball bats (greater sweet spot), golf clubs (greater sweet spot), racing engines (greater performance under stress), firearms (less warping after continuous shooting), knives, razor blades, brake rotors and even pantyhose. The theory was based on how heat-treating metal works (the temperatures are lowered to room temperature from a high degree causing certain strength increases in the molecular structure to occur) and supposed that continuing the descent would allow for further strength increases. Using liquid nitrogen, CryoTech formulated the first early version of the cryogenic processor. Unfortunately for the newly-born industry, the results were unstable, as components sometimes experienced thermal shock when they were cooled too fast. Some components in early tests even shattered because of the ultra-low temperatures. In the late twentieth century, the field improved significantly with the rise of applied research, which coupled microprocessor based industrial controls to the cryogenic processor in order to create more stable results.

[InfinitiMe]

Frozen looks like a decent option as well.

m45 caliber are you going to be using stock calipers with these things? I'd love to hear your experience with them after installation.

What do you all think about the potential benefits of the G37 Sport option over the Frozen Rotors? I figure after the slotted rotors and pads you're basically at 1000 bucks. Another 500 and I can get the G37 setup with almost everything needed. But I figure the labor will cost more as well, and I have a hunch that the difference between frozen and G37 sport is not enough to warrant the cost for me personally (it's not like I race this thing).

However, I do drive about 250 miles a week to work and back and I feel like it was just yesterday that I paid the dealership to resurface these god damned things.

[M45Caliber]

yeah -- stock calipers BUT high performance ceramic pads all around -- probably Axxis, EBC or Hawk (I haven't ordered the pads yet) my neighbor is an ASE certified Master Mechanic with his own independent repair shop and ALL the good brake equipment ... so he will do the install for me plus he can get pads from a number of sources wholesale and he passes the savings on to me, charging me only for his labor.

I have another neighbor that put a set of the Frozen Rotors on his quad cab Dodge Ram Dualie with the Cummins Diesel - he was going through front pads every 7K miles and rotors every 14K. He's now got almost 20K on the original set of frozen rotors and pads and there's still material left. He's a happy man.

[ken in az]

Don't forget you can still send in your G37 sport rotors to get the cryogenic treatment - they just have to be brand new rotors.

Also you can look local there may be places local to you that offer that same cryogenic service and you can save on shipping.

[infinitiandbeyond]

INFINITIME - "What do you all think about the potential benefits of the G37 Sport option over the Frozen Rotors?"

Okay. Some of you still don't get it. How about this.

FROZEN ROTORS is more a PROCESS, not a PRODUCT! Although they do offer some rotor brands already treated.

Think of it this way, like the long running commercial from BASF..."We don't make the products you buy, we make the products you buy BETTER"

This defines EXACTLY what Diversified Cryogenics and Frozen rotors is all about. SO, buy those G37 rotors or whatever brand from whatever source and send them to Diversified!!! You'll have the very best of both worlds.