Rogue stop with all ligth on and impossible to accelerate!!!

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koolyce
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Hi,

My wife just get a problem with the Rogue and was not funny. At a read light, the Rogue just won't accelerate and all the light come on *check engine soon, brake, oil, etc...). She need to stop the car and start again.

Anyone had this problem? It is a bit scary considering that it is holiday and we move a lot.

Thanks


Cory1591
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im a technician in training at a auto school it seems that the ecm or engine control module is faultying due to a bad ground connection.

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kerrton
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That's an interesting problem, I haven't heard of anything like this before, but it sounds like Corey has a good lead on the problem. Please let us know the results, and I'm sure Corey would like to know if his assessment was right!!

Cory1591
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i dont know if i am right but i just completed a basic electrical course at school so if the problem only happens once in a while that means the cable is not making the correct connection and to even have all the dash lights come up it would lead to a ecm and the components that go with it. GOOD LUCK

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Leo2005
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There's a few other rogue owners experienced the same problem but I don't think they found the solution for it since this is unstable problem. This is not like happening everyday or every hour. The only confusion for me was that these people who had the problem before never replied back either was the solution found. You can find them over here: zerothread/289399Just follow those users who had only 1 post.

koolyce
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Thanks for all the reply.

I will ask my dealer to verify if I have an error code or something like that.

I will keep you in touch if we found something.

Thanks

Robteesit
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Koolyce - For what it's worth I will relate, a simlar experience as yours, just not as scary. Durning the big snow here on the east coast of 2009, and after the plow pushed a big mount of snow in front of the driveway. I went to back out and the car seemed too just stop when it encounter the resistince of the snow in front of the driveway. I was backing out slowly and just got into the mount of snow and the car just stop accelerating? No wheel spin, no engine rev or anything - just quit going in reverse. I could move forward no problem and then when I backed out in reverse again, giving it move gas, it bounced over the mount of snow and then all was fine. Never experienced anything like this before - it was almost like the car was not in gear - but it was even stranger, because when I pushed the gas pedal down nothing happened, no increase in rpm's or noise? It hasn't happened since and if I remember I will ask the dealer about this when I take the car back for the recalls.

jmbones
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Robteesit, What you're describing is the traction control (VDC) doing its thing. It senses loss of traction and limits engine RPM and just about all wheel spin. If you try to go up a hill covered with snow and start spinning, this will kick in and you won't make it. This is where you need to turn the VDC button to "OFF", and, most likely, the AWD to "ON" (if equipped). See manual excerpt below:


Robteesit wrote:Koolyce - For what it's worth I will relate, a simlar experience as yours, just not as scary. Durning the big snow here on the east coast of 2009, and after the plow pushed a big mount of snow in front of the driveway. I went to back out and the car seemed too just stop when it encounter the resistince of the snow in front of the driveway. I was backing out slowly and just got into the mount of snow and the car just stop accelerating? No wheel spin, no engine rev or anything - just quit going in reverse. I could move forward no problem and then when I backed out in reverse again, giving it move gas, it bounced over the mount of snow and then all was fine. Never experienced anything like this before - it was almost like the car was not in gear - but it was even stranger, because when I pushed the gas pedal down nothing happened, no increase in rpm's or noise? It hasn't happened since and if I remember I will ask the dealer about this when I take the car back for the recalls.
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koolyce
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Thanks for your reply, but is not the same thing. VDC won't put all the light on the dash even on a asphalt surface.

The fact all the ligths come ON, told me that is not the VDC.
jmbones wrote:Robteesit, What you're describing is the traction control (VDC) doing its thing. It senses loss of traction and limits engine RPM and just about all wheel spin. If you try to go up a hill covered with snow and start spinning, this will kick in and you won't make it. This is where you need to turn the VDC button to "OFF", and, most likely, the AWD to "ON" (if equipped). See manual excerpt below:



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jmbones
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If you noticed in my thread, I was responding to Robteesit.
koolyce wrote:Thanks for your reply, but is not the same thing. VDC won't put all the light on the dash even on a asphalt surface.

The fact all the ligths come ON, told me that is not the VDC.

koolyce
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Sorry, my mistake
jmbones wrote:If you noticed in my thread, I was responding to Robteesit.

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Quote »I know some vehicles stall out when the steering is maxed out turning with the A/C on and it draws too much from the motor causing the stall. It is like a perfect storm of things that need to happen for it to do it.[/quote]The chances of this happening in the Rogue would be very remote for 2 reasons:

1) The Rogue's steering is electrically assisted, there is no power steering pump. Overloading the electric power steering (and placing additional load on the alternator and engine) is not possible due to overload protection features built into the system.

2) The engine ECU controls idle speed via the electronic throttle. Should idle speed drop due to high engine load (ie A/C operation), it will automatically compensate.

I'm not saying the engine stalls are not possible, they can happen and I have witnessed my Rogue do this on one occasion already. I feel it's for other reason's, ie weather conditions, fuel quality, etc.

Robteesit
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By Gosh Jmbones - I guess that could have been it. Never experienced that before - especially the engine not reving up. This my first Japaness car, so I am not use to all the differences yet. Thanks for pointing this out to me.

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My apologies, I inadvertantly deleted and overwrote jmbones, post.

Sorry.

zengshengliu
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I had a similar situation, except only the check engine light is onhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=432993

koolyce
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This morning...start the car with the remote and was not able to turn the ignition to ON position...my car didn't detect my keyless system....strange because I unlock the car 2 minutes before.

So I turn off and start again and everything was fine....weird!!!

zengshengliu
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Are you talking about remote start?From what I know, when you have the IKey with remote startafter you start your engine with the remote, you have to step on the break to kill the engine, then restart the carThis is the setup my dealer put on my car, unless yours is different

or maybe I understand you wrong

koolyce
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My first problem is without remote starter...my second yes...

My remote starter didn't need to turn off the engine and start again. In my second problem, my car didn't regnonize the key...

zengshengliu
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For the owner manual

When the Intelligent Key battery is almostdischarged or strong radio waves are presentnear the operating location, the Intelligent Keysystem’s operating range becomes narrowerand may not function properly.

koolyce
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zengshengliu wrote:For the owner manual

When the Intelligent Key battery is almostdischarged or strong radio waves are presentnear the operating location, the Intelligent Keysystem’s operating range becomes narrowerand may not function properly.
Hope the battery can last longer then 6 months!!!

mkodra
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I am having the same problem. 3 times the dealer couldnt duplicate what i have described to them. I am getting very angry with my rogue.Matt


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