Rogue Performance Parts 2011

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Helium2
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I've looked through this forum for info on performance parts for the Rogue.
I can't find anything that has any current info about intakes, etc. for the Rogue.
Most of the info seems to hover around c. 2008. :frown:

Is there any current [2010-11] info about available parts?
For example Airaid seems to have an intake system that utilizes the existing CAI.
Is it worth the money?

Any input would be appreciated.


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For bolt on parts just type in altima years 10-12 non v6 same motor and the 08 partake from the rogue would work too.


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I realize the motor is the same as the Altima but I'll bet the engine compartment is different.
This makes for concerns that the Altima parts are not necessarily suitable for the Rogue.

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Helium2,

There are VERY few performance parts for the Rogue as you have found out.

AFAIK, there is still no CAI for the Rogue. The closest that one of our members managed to do was mod an AEM CAI for the Sentra SE-R:

post4915157.html#p4915157

Once you get into the engine intself, any parts for the '07-'11 Sentra SE-R or Altima 2.5 should work. ie. camshafts.

Externally, any underdrive pulley for the '07-11 Sentra SE-R/Altima 2.5 should work. I haven't see one yet though...

Exhaust? Nothing available. You need to find a good muffler shop to fab something for you.

Headers? There is a header available for the previous gen QR25DE, however it won't fit the Rogue without considerable modifications. Besides, most of these headers eliminate the primary catalyst which drives the engine computer nuts anyway.

Suspension? H&R makes a set of lowering springs. That's it, nothing else.

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Thanks philipa_240sx.
That's pretty much what I expect.
I'm not looking to turn the Rogue into a Batmobile, but, with only 170 hp, any increase is a help.

Did I misunderstand that the Rogue has a CAI...of sorts?

Do you know anything about the Airaid intake system?

I know that intake mods only really show up at top end, but a couple of hp at the top of the power curve would be a plus.


BTW: Is the transmission solid enough to take a 10-15 hp boost and retain the expected normal longevity???

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There is a way for you to give your car a boost but it won't give you more horsepower. The funny thing is it's called Sprintbooster. It improves the drive by wire response. Something like if you press 25% it will act like the pedal is pressing 50%. Just as if you were pressing harder. So why not press harder and not buy it? Well because then you still stuck with the mushy pedal we seem to have with the CVT.

I was about to buy one, then I thought I rather spend money on some audio and video upgrades. Then I thought how I like driving with a light foot anyways.
But if you want a car that feels faster with no real gain in horsepower then this is a nice thing to add to get that performance gainFEEL.

It connects to the gas pedal. From reading from all the forums, it seems to get a positive review. The only naysayers are people who never bought it.

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Helium2 wrote:BTW: Is the transmission solid enough to take a 10-15 hp boost and retain the expected normal longevity???
The CVT in our Rogues is rated to handle only 5-10 HP more than 170. The exact number escapes me, but there is very little wiggle room.

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Helium2 wrote:Did I misunderstand that the Rogue has a CAI...of sorts?
The stock air intake ducts cold air in from the gap between the grille and hood. Pretty much most Nissan's made in the past 10+ years have been like this. It's not as effective as a tuned intake (ie AEM), but it's far better than sucking hot air from the engine compartment.
Do you know anything about the Airaid intake system?
Nope.

If you are considering a short ram air intake, forget it. Unless you can duct cold to the intake, it will be actually worse than stock!
I know that intake mods only really show up at top end, but a couple of hp at the top of the power curve would be a plus.
Problem is the QR25DE motor never was designed for top end power, it's designed for low rpm torque. It takes quite a bit to get this motor to breath at high rpm's.

That being said, a CAI certainly can't hurt but don't expect double digit HP gains.
Is the transmission solid enough to take a 10-15 hp boost and retain the expected normal longevity???
Nick 568 wrote:The CVT in our Rogues is rated to handle only 5-10 HP more than 170. The exact number escapes me, but there is very little wiggle room.
The exact limit for this transmission is up for debate. But basically, it should be able to handle a few extra hp without any issue. Trying to push it via turbocharging, etc is asking for trouble though!

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I've brought this up before,

The Sentra SE-R Spec-V (+2007) came with a specially tuned QR25DE motor. Nissan engineers redesigned the intake, exhaust, pistons, cam profile, and added stronger connecting rods and a fully counterbalanced crank. Result? The increased redline (6800rpm) and better breathing netted 200hp, a ~30hp increase over stock.

IMHO, even a heavily modded stock QR25DE motor would be hard pressed to hit the performance of the SE-R Spec-V. But with the right mods (intake, header, maybe a tuned ECU), you could probably squeeze and extra 10-15 hp from it.

You may want to look at either the Bully Dog 'Triple Dog' Tuner or get a custom tune from UpRev (Osiris Flash Tune). These are the only ones I would recommend for Nissan ECU tuning.

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Sorry I'm a little late to the discussion.

I know I've seen the modified Injen intake (for the 07+ SE-R / Spec V) on the Rogue.

As for an exhaust header, there is an ebay product for the 07+ Sentra SE-R / Spec V that will work. It will bolt up to the head (as it is the same engine), and bolt to the midpipe on the exhaust (same three bolt flange). Here's where it would get interesting: the 07+ Sentras have four o2 sensors on the manifold whereas the Rogue and Altima only have two. The two bungs on the side of the aftermarket would be for our sensors. The other two would have to be plugged with o2 bung plugs (or, use one for a wideband! lol).

Regarding the rest of the exhaust, the tract is very similar to the SE-R / Spec V. They have catbacks available for their cars. If someone ponied up and was willing to modify a bit, you might have an i/h/e Rogue.

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Dear garg>
I have been involved with engine mods since Fred Flintstone (pre-FI) and I have to apologize...
I have no idea what you mean by your post.

It seems that you are referencing a set of header options & an exhaust option, but it seems that you expect me to understand a whole encyclopedia of short-cut slang that may or may not apply to my question.

N0S sniffing helps none of us ;-D

Do you have any info that Don Garlits might find helpful?

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Based on the fact that you're looking into modifying an import 4 cylinder suv, I figured you would be up-to-date on the short-hand. My apologies.

The exhaust manifold I am referencing is made by M2 Performance. It is available for purchase through ebay. It deletes the pre-catalytic converter that is located on the OEM exhaust manifold. The QR25DE that is utilized in the Rogue, has in its past, caused problems for previous generation Sentra SE-R's and Altimas. Deleting this pre-catalytic converter eliminates the chance of engine problems. It also does free up a decent amount of power.

There are two sensors located on the OEM exhaust manifold on the Rogue. The top is the air-fuel sensor. The lower is an oxygen sensor. On the M2 Performance exhaust header, there are spots for four of these sensors (top two for air-fuel, bottom two for oxygen sensors). This is because the Sentra SE-R (the car the header is made for) utilizes four sensors, instead of our two. All we would have to do is plug the two that are not used.

The last part of the paragraph is in reference to a wideband oxygen sensor. Tuners use this to tune the car. It reads the air-fuel ratio in the exhaust and gives a reading. The engine can be tuned for more / less fuel based on this readout. Turbocharged / supercharged cars typically need this, although it can be used for naturally aspirated motors as well.

As for the exhaust that lies after the exhaust header, the parts go like this: midpipe (which has a flex section and the main catalytic converter), the "catback" section (which starts just after our catalytic converter. This is the long pipe that runs almost the length of the vehicle) and, finally, the axleback (which starts right around the rear axle and ends at the muffler). On my '07 Sentra Spec V, I had an exhaust shop make me an aftermarket exhaust that replaced everything from the end of the header to the end of the car.

I hope this helps. If there are any questions / comments, feel free to ask :) I sometimes type without considering my audience.

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garg wrote:Deleting this pre-catalytic converter eliminates the chance of engine problems. It also does free up a decent amount of power.
The issue of catalyst breakdown/failure was characteristic of MY2002-03 models. The issue has long since be resolved. I owned an '03 Altima 2.5S and went through this problem. After the repairs which included a complete replacement motor (under warranty), I drove in excess of 100,000mi with not a single oil consumption issue.
There are two sensors located on the OEM exhaust manifold on the Rogue..... All we would have to do is plug the two that are not used.
The before/after o2 sensor are used for OBDII emissions compliance. Deleting the pre-catalyst will cause emissions issues and may result in a check engine light.
On my '07 Sentra Spec V, I had an exhaust shop make me an aftermarket exhaust that replaced everything from the end of the header to the end of the car.
From the header back, the exhaust system in the Rogue is quite dissimilar from the Sentra so an off the shelf system is out of the question. The best and only option is to have a cat-back system fabricated from a reputable exhaust shop.

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The 04-06 SE-R's have the precat issues as well. In fact, I know someone here in St. Louis with an 05 that had it. It's still very much an issue for the 02-06 Sentras. I know the 04-06 QR's had the butterfly valve issue addressed (even though it's still recommended by people to loctite them anyway).

As for the 07+ motors, the manifold is slightly different. They use two smaller pre-cats instead of the one large one like the Rogue and Altima have.

Taking care of the check engine light is easy. Drill out a sparkplug antifouler then use that to space out the sensor. It will trick the sensor into thinking the precat is still there.

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garg wrote:The 04-06 SE-R's have the precat issues as well.
I wasn't aware of any issues with later model years, but I could see how it may be an issue still. Many of those SE-R's are modded and driven pretty hard. The pre-cat could still be susceptible to overheating and breaking down under those conditions.
I know the 04-06 QR's had the butterfly valve issue addressed (even though it's still recommended by people to loctite them anyway).
As you probably already know, the +07 QR intake is been revised and the butterfly valves are no longer. Thank goodness for that!
Taking care of the check engine light is easy. Drill out a sparkplug antifouler then use that to space out the sensor. It will trick the sensor into thinking the precat is still there.
I'm aware of that trick as well as O2 simulators. I guess my point being that if you live in a state that has stringent emissions inspections, this would likely result in a fail.

I'm simply pointing out the pitfalls of these modifications, they can still be done... just be aware of the ramifications.

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Interesting info, but in the light of the questionable tolerance of the CVT for more than a 5-10 hp increase it all seems moot.

I have no desire to dramatically shorten the life of the CVT by pushing the system to some higher limits.

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Another thought to consider....

Any exhaust mods are going to be accompanied by a dramatic increase in noise. It's especially noticeable when cruising at constant speeds... a steady droning that can really get on your nerves.

I spent awhile tuning my own 240SX, with headers, cat back exhaust, and intake. I couldn't tolerate driving it on the highway. The noise was unbearable... the car was no longer pleasant to drive on normal roads at normal speeds. On the racetrack it was a different story mind you... I loved it ;)

Just something to keep in mind, especially if your Rogue is a daily driver.

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http://apexi-usa.com/shop/index.php/93- ... panel.html
Could that fit the Rogue?
Or anything recommended for Filtering? I don't care about performance.
Thought about foam filters but, they fall apart.

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Qashqai
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Here I found an Air Filter for Rogue (I am not sure if these are the correct filter dimensions):

http://www.thepartsbin.com/guides/nissa ... ilter.html

It says the dimensions of the filter are: "8.81 inches L x 6.63 inches W x 1 inches H."

The one you found is: 10.98 inches L x 6.57 inches W x 1.06 inches H.

Wait a minute, why don't you just go and measure your existing filter??? ;)


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