Rogue Hybrid ? (FSM hints at it)...

[SatDoug]

Greetings All:I thought this was an interesting find when going through the factory service manual for the 2008 Rogue...there is a chapter heading called 'HYBRID' that offers no page or sub-folders (at least that I can see). -Doug

[Leo2005]

Its coming. Before they make the hybrid you can make your own hybrid rogue. You can add hydro generator which can use distilled water as a power. My friend just made one for himself and running his ford minivan with up to 55mpg. I'm going to ask him to make one for me.

[websfear]

Well, if it is like the Altima Hybrid, it will only be available in a couple of states

[homergreg]

Its coming. Before they make the hybrid you can make your own hybrid rogue. You can add hydro generator which can use distilled water as a power. My friend just made one for himself and running his ford minivan with up to 55mpg. I'm going to ask him to make one for me.

Good luck with that! I'm pretty skeptical on the technology, but the "proof is in the puddin!" If you could, once you get it done, share your MPG, including the numbers of miles traveled and gallons used before, and after. I really do hope your neighbor is getting 55mpg out of his minivan! But I'm pretty wary of some of the claims people make. Some people report an instantaneous MPG from a Scangauge when going downhill to brag their numbers.

I would love to see a Rogue Hybrid! I just hope they offer the vehicle somewhere in the Midwest!

[kerrton]

Agreed, the HHO injection system does have benefits if a sound design is used from a reputable company, however the problem is there seems to be quite a few quick startups making wild claims so they can make a quick buck. Obviously these unreliable sources are bad for the business as it discredits the reputable ones, giving the entire technology a bad name and ripping people off, possibly leaving them with engine damage. It is really interesting technolgy, just make sure you don't jump in to anything without doing the research - even if things work well initially, you need to be assured that it will be long-term sustainable, and even if it is a good design the components used need to be high quality - you don't want to create a safety hazard or damage your vehicle.

[Leo2005]

Well I'm not going to use it right now on my rogue. I'm planning to give it a try to my old car mazda protege. This idea about using a water is really old. The 1st water generator was made back in 70s. I understand you guys worry about it because nobody sells the cars with this technology......yet. Just to let you know that you can make a research on google that water(actually the steam not the water) can push the valves the same way as a gas. Water by itself has no power in my opinion. But since technology is not proven people getting scared to use it. Just like cars on propane i think people still not sure about it.

[philipa_240sx]

The hybrid section of the manual does not mean much. It's likely just a standard template.

Nissan (Carlos Ghosn in particular) has be pretty opposed to going the hybrid route as they feel zero-emissions vehicles are the future and hybrids are just an interim measure. But the popularity of hybrids in the US forced them to market one of thier own. Nissan currently licenses thier Hybrid technology from Toyota. This is a temporary measure as Nissan has been developing but has not released thier own Hybrid system along with advanced fuel cell and battery technologies. At this point, I do not expect Toyota's hybrid technology to show up in other Nissan vehicles as the license is likely very limited in the numbers they can produce.

Now, I do expect Nissan to release thier own Hybrid and zero-emission technology very soon. Nissan recently unveiled it's new business plan GT2012:

http://www.nissan-global.com/E....html

Part of that plan is to introduce Nissan's original hybrid technology by 2010 along with zero-emissions electric vehicles. Nissan has also ramped up production with NEC to produce lighter more powerful Lithium-Ion batteries. The L-Ion batteries could make a hybrid system much lighter and more compact. Currently the system used on the Altimas (and Toyota's) uses heavy NiMh batteries.

The next few years are going to be a watershed for the automotive industry. While electric cars are nothing new, we will start to see them in numbers never seen before and it will mark the shift away from gasoline. Change will happen slowly, but it will happen.

Cheers!

[Leo2005]

phillipa. I agree and i beleive the water systems will start using very soon. With these gas prices it will be made up officially very soon. The electric cars right now saving gas but you overpaying for the car.

[philipa_240sx]

I actually don't believe in those systems that generate hydrogen from water and claim to increase your fuel mileage. The process of electrolysis requires large amounts of electricity to produce useful amounts of hydrogen. The power has to come from somewhere, whether it's your engine's alternator or the battery which has to be charged by the engine's alternator anyway. Factor in all the losses (fuel needed to operate the motor and alternator, heat loss from the alternator, wiring and electrolysis) and you are lucky to get a small fraction of power back from the hydrogen itself. IMHO you would be much further ahead for far less cost by adjusting your driving habits to conserve fuel.

I do believe we are going to start seeing all electric vehicles. Gasoline is starting to become expensive enough to electric options viable.

BTW, gasoline has recently spiked to almost $1.35 litre CDN or about $5.11 gal US (assumimg $1 CDN = $1 US) in Canada. Traditionally our gas has always been more expensive than the US.

[websfear]

Or it could be like this...

http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/...50mpg/

Electric, gas, solar and pedal power!