Rogue Exhaust questions

[SlimSlammedRogue]

Has anyone put an aftermarket exhaust on a nissan rogue or at least removed the resonator?

[ImStricken06]

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[Black B15]

Exhaust and mufflers has been done, and one or maybe two guys even did the dual exhaust.

The real question, at least the one that keeps coming up in my mind, is why has no one installed the header from the Sentra? After looking into this extensively, I am almost convinced it will bolt right up. No guarantees, but it is the same engine (2.5) with the same midpipe connection type and location. I am fairly certain not a single person has tried this yet. I was going to do it and I almost pulled the trigger but after going nuts on my previous vehicle wifey was kind of giving me "that" look. Might have to wait a little while before I can install one!

***EDIT: Even with the limitations of the CVT transmission, I don't think that small amount of HP is going to push the transmission too far. I can't imagine a header on this 2.5 engine giving more than maybe 5-7 hp. Also, if the dealer tries to decline repair for having a header on just say "Magnusson-Moss Warranty" act and see how their attitudes change.

[SlimSlammedRogue]

Exhaust and mufflers has been done, and one or maybe two guys even did the dual exhaust.

The real question, at least the one that keeps coming up in my mind, is why has no one installed the header from the Sentra? After looking into this extensively, I am almost convinced it will bolt right up. No guarantees, but it is the same engine (2.5) with the same midpipe connection type and location. I am fairly certain not a single person has tried this yet. I was going to do it and I almost pulled the trigger but after going nuts on my previous vehicle wifey was kind of giving me "that" look. Might have to wait a little while before I can install one!

***EDIT: Even with the limitations of the CVT transmission, I don't think that small amount of HP is going to push the transmission too far. I can't imagine a header on this 2.5 engine giving more than maybe 5-7 hp. Also, if the dealer tries to decline repair for having a header on just say "Magnusson-Moss Warranty" act and see how their attitudes change.

They're saying that since the headers delete the cat it will make the cars ecu have a b**** fit. I may just do a resonator delete and a 2.5 apexi world sport 2 muffler and see how that sounds

[Black B15]

Exhaust and mufflers has been done, and one or maybe two guys even did the dual exhaust.

The real question, at least the one that keeps coming up in my mind, is why has no one installed the header from the Sentra? After looking into this extensively, I am almost convinced it will bolt right up. No guarantees, but it is the same engine (2.5) with the same midpipe connection type and location. I am fairly certain not a single person has tried this yet. I was going to do it and I almost pulled the trigger but after going nuts on my previous vehicle wifey was kind of giving me "that" look. Might have to wait a little while before I can install one!

***EDIT: Even with the limitations of the CVT transmission, I don't think that small amount of HP is going to push the transmission too far. I can't imagine a header on this 2.5 engine giving more than maybe 5-7 hp. Also, if the dealer tries to decline repair for having a header on just say "Magnusson-Moss Warranty" act and see how their attitudes change.

They're saying that since the headers delete the cat it will make the cars ecu have a b**** fit. I may just do a resonator delete and a 2.5 apexi world sport 2 muffler and see how that sounds

Nah....a simple "ghetto sim" will do the trick. Not to mention you would still have your main cat, just not your precat. The precat is (or at least was) known to break-up on the QR25DE and in some instances get sucked back into the engine causing catastrophic failure.

At any rate, the ghetto sim is where you buy one (or two if needed) spark plug antifoulers, drill out the hole to 1/2" IIRC, and install on the downstream o2 sensor(s). This pulls the o2 sensor up out the exhaust stream, sort of tricking the ecu. This is the way all the Sentra guys (myself included) were getting away with running a header with no precat and having no SES light on. I got excellent gas mileage too (of course I was tuned with an SAFC II).

I think I drove something like 120,000 miles with a 4-1 header on my Sentra with ZERO service engine soon lights. I passed emissions with flying colors too since they just hook up to your OBD II port.

[darylzero]

If you change your HP you have to re-tune the CVT

Check at about 3:10
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPZIVnUFJd0[/youtube]

[Black B15]

Now that I was not aware of. Interesting.

[TrevorK]

The real question, at least the one that keeps coming up in my mind, is why has no one installed the header from the Sentra?

I think the answer is quite simple - because it's a Rogue. It's not meant to be a performance vehicle. A header will change the sound but also most likely cause a loss in low-end torque which in a 4 cylinder daily driver is usually not what you want.

A lot of modifications people seem to do here are all for visual purposes, which is great. But the engine modifications don't really have a noticeable payoff so it's really not worth the money.

If you're into modifying cars you have probably bought a Rogue so that you can focus on modifying your other toys. Not on modifying the Rogue. That's my opinion at least.

[ImStricken06]

I think the answer is quite simple - because it's a Rogue. It's not meant to be a performance vehicle. A header will change the sound but also most likely cause a loss in low-end torque which in a 4 cylinder daily driver is usually not what you want.

A lot of modifications people seem to do here are all for visual purposes, which is great. But the engine modifications don't really have a noticeable payoff so it's really not worth the money.

If you're into modifying cars you have probably bought a Rogue so that you can focus on modifying your other toys. Not on modifying the Rogue. That's my opinion at least.

Trev's post is dead-freaking-on. couldnt have said it better myself.

[rdub2k4]

Very true, however, the OP's Rogue isn't what you would call, stock.

[takeshi]

I think the answer is quite simple - because it's a Rogue.

+1 If I want performance I drive the sports car instead. The Rogue isn't bad for a small, inexpensive 4 cylinder CUV but it's no match for a vehicle built from the ground up with performance in mind.

[Black B15]

The real question, at least the one that keeps coming up in my mind, is why has no one installed the header from the Sentra?

I think the answer is quite simple - because it's a Rogue. It's not meant to be a performance vehicle. A header will change the sound but also most likely cause a loss in low-end torque which in a 4 cylinder daily driver is usually not what you want.

A lot of modifications people seem to do here are all for visual purposes, which is great. But the engine modifications don't really have a noticeable payoff so it's really not worth the money.

If you're into modifying cars you have probably bought a Rogue so that you can focus on modifying your other toys. Not on modifying the Rogue. That's my opinion at least.

While I understand, and even somewhat agree with your point, it is really all "in the eye of the beholder" so to speak.

I had a 1.8 Sentra that everyone said the same thing about...."why did you buy a 1.8 if you wanted to modify it?", or "you should've gotten a 2.5 instead", or any other number of reasons for the nay-sayers.
When I got done with my "non performance" 1.8 Sentra it looked like this....


And it sounded fantastic....growly and mean....not raspy and bee-ish like one may expect. I got more compliments from people about how the Sentra looked and sounded than I would care to count. I remember as I was building people would tell me it's not worth it, it's a waste of money, why would you start with a 1.8? After I was done I there was no mention of any of that.

My mindset is, if you want to do it....do it. The OP didn't ask "hey should I add exhaust upgrades or upgrade another vehicle?" His question was about adding exhaust to the Rogue, not about why he should modify another vehicle instead.

The way I look at it is like this, if you want to upgrade your moped, do it. If you want to upgrade your lawn mower, do it. If you want to upgrade your 3 cylinder geo....DO IT. If a person wants to upgrade their exhaust on the Rogue, why not? Because it only adds a minimal amount of HP? SO WHAT. While the value of such an upgrade may not be worth it to you, it might be for someone else.

If someone purchased the Rogue and wants to upgrade the exhaust, do it! I have heard the Altima's and the Sentra's running this 2.5 and with the right exhaust setup it can sound quite aggressive. Since it's a Rogue, it would certainly be unique in that sense...and I have a feeling if a person had the gumption to do a full exhaust on this Rogue even YOU would probably compliment it if you heard it.

At any rate, I digress. You no-likey, me-likey. What else is there to say?

[Black B15]

I think the answer is quite simple - because it's a Rogue.

+1 If I want performance I drive the sports car instead. The Rogue isn't bad for a small, inexpensive 4 cylinder CUV but it's no match for a vehicle built from the ground up with performance in mind.

Oh yeah, I agree...when I want to speed around I hop in one of any number of exotic sports cars that I own. Do I want to drive the Lambo or the Ferrari today? Hmmm. Maybe the Masserati. Ahhhh....the McLaren F1 will do!

Get my point? The point is the OP, at least I am guessing, has only this vehicle. Considering the amount of performance he has clearly done to it at this point, I think he is looking for the extra bit of something that other folks don't have on the Rogue. Something that will make him standout even more than any other of the billion Rogue's out there.

I doubt he is considering it being a "match for a vehicle built from the ground up." And even if he was, so what? I have seen some wild builds over the years, often times on vehicles that weren't considered worthy of upgrades. If someone has the itch to upgrade, I say scratch it. While I understand the capabilities and limitations of the transmission, that is a whole other story. From that aspect I would certainly advise someone to be cautious, or at least as the video stated have someone who is proficient with the CVT tune it for the different HP levels.

Come on guys...why does it seem like it always goes to this. The responses of "you should upgrade another vehicle instead" are largely irrelevant as far as I can see. Because as I pointed out in the above post, the OP didn't ask if he should modify the Rogue OR another vehicle. He asked about exhaust for THIS vehicle.

[Black B15]

Very true, however, the OP's Rogue isn't what you would call, stock.

Exactly. Plus I would be curious to see how those guys who have done any exhaust upgrades to the Rogue feel on the subject. I am fairly certain there were two guys who had done the dual exhaust with muffler upgrades and I seem to recall them both saying how it sounded pretty good.

EDIT****I see that second link that I'MSTRICKEN posted shows the two guys who did the dual exhaust.