rod bolts ? back order WTF

[nissanic89]

im looking for rod bolts and i just called nissan and they are on back order for eternity...

Is there and ARP part number for CA rod bolts, or what is everyone using on their cars. I saw some some sexy jun ones for 236 dollars, sike thats not gonna happen.

thanks-chris

[boost_boy]

im looking for rod bolts and i just called nissan and they are on back order for eternity...

Is there and ARP part number for CA rod bolts, or what is everyone using on their cars. I saw some some sexy jun ones for 236 dollars, sike thats not gonna happen.

thanks-chris

Who said you need rod bolts? Did your bottom end get screwed-up because you were thrashing it? Have a competent machine shop look at your rods in general before determining that you need rod bolts. I've built many CA engines and have never had the need to replace them and all of the engines performed just fine, even the one currently in my sentra.

Dee

[r34 gtr]

is there an ARP number though? i would like the piece of mind of not having them stretch from repeated 8k+ shifts.

[nismo.rac3r]

This is one of my little experiments waiting for me... Hopefully I'll be able to get back to my CA in less than a month... pass or fail, I'll document it for all to know.

[nissanic89]

i mean im just saying for extra insurance, like r34 said just for a piece of mind

[AWDB12wagon]

Even though they are on backorder, I bet some dealer in the US has some laying around. they CAN do a locator serch on them, just ask them to.

[positron1]

I just rode in a coupe last night with a CA18DET and it was pretty impressive. Now I want one but I've already got all these SR parts sitting around.

[r34 gtr]

so no ARP part number? guess i can always have them made by some local shop.. anyone know the size and thread pitch off hand?

[nissanic89]

what he said

[r34 gtr]

i mean, i would go check myself but it would involve me pulling off the oil pan with the engine in the car.

[nissanic89]

yeah your right to much work i guess i could just go up to the machine shop tomorrow and tell him whats up and get him to spec them out for me

[Dattebayo]

They really aren't torqued very high with the nut, so why replace them? They also don't see the same pressure as your head bolts, so why worry about it? I have checked mine, and the threads don't seem to have any stretch whatsoever.

[float_6969]

The UK guys claim that the reason that the stock rods fail is that at high RPMS the stock rod bolts are too thin and stretch. But this has to do with revs and not HP.

[r34 gtr]

im not gonna be making big power, i just dont want to stretch something whilst revving the hell out of it. i think you guys fail to grasp the sheer beating that will be unleashed on this engine when its back together.

[nissanic89]

i wonder what they consider to be high revs, i mean i do plan on hitting the drift track every once in a while, so that right there kind worries me, maybe i should get and ecu with a rev limiter lol. I mean i was seein 8200-8500 reguarly B4 the rebuild so i guess i shouldnt fret that much, of course you can see the concern.

[Dattebayo]

CA18DET as a drift motor? umm...Not likely.

8000 RPM is what I understand to be what this motor can handle in stock form, so maybe you are right. But I still wouldn't consider the CA as prime drifting power for sure.

[s13sr20detsilviastityper]

The FSM does not specifically say to replace them, however it does say if you have an angle wrench available to tighten them 60-65 deg more than the first step, which is usually only done for bolts with some amount of stretch.

I would replace them to be safe.

[240 Trainee]

CA18DET as a drift motor? umm...Not likely.

8000 RPM is what I understand to be what this motor can handle in stock form, so maybe you are right. But I still wouldn't consider the CA as prime drifting power for sure.

The CA will do, and does perfectly fine. Not as much torque as others, but keep the revs up and the turbo spooling, and your good.

[nissanic89]

so i have been talking to arp, and i sent her some measurements of my bolt and she said that the VG rod bolt should work so i ordered them ill let you guys know when i get them in since there are on back order too from my local shops; ie summit racing and jegs-chris

[adam-gtX]

The CA will do, and does perfectly fine. Not as much torque as others, but keep the revs up and the turbo spooling, and your good.

qft!

[Smurf6x6]

Did you try the VG bolt yet??? Mines apart and my machinist want me to change the rod bolts. Right now he's checking if he can get SR ARP rod bolts to work.

[nissanic89]

UPDATEyeah let me know about the sr bolts!!!

the vg30 bolts are a bit to long and the thread is a bit high too BUT me and the machinist are trying to see if he can extend the thread down the shank of the bolt and and cut cut off what we don't need

definitely keep me posted about the SR bolts thoe-chris

[nissanic89]

vg30 bolts are a no go man

[new200guy]

what turbo are you running? revving to 8000rpm? why do you need to rev that high? not much point really. if you are running a t28 then sure as it is still making power up to about 7000. check out the uk boards. they will tell you the same thing. euro spec model fuel cut off is 7400.

it is a decent motor for drifting. guys in the uk are doing it with no problem with this motor.

[nissanic89]

im runnin a a tdo5 will upgarded to either a 50 trim or 57 trim t3/t4 im not sayin i need to rev that high id be cool if all it revved to was 7000 but driving the car b4 it pulled to 8000 some like it wanted to keep going

[new200guy]

did a little reading on the net and the turbo you want to use is not much bigger than a t25. they are very similar in size. might want to consider a t28 from an sr20det if you want to rev to the 7 grand range and still make power. t25 starts to run out of steam around 5800 or so. motor still keeps pulling but the turbo is not doing to much. check out http://www.sxoc.co.uk and search those forums for different setups. they know there stuff as the ca18det is standard for the 200sx (240sx).

[AWDB12wagon]

Okay, so back on topic, lets try to figure out a rod bolt that works.

[nissanic89]

t25s are a joke i appreciate the info thoe, but im shooting fro 350ish+ with mad highway pull lol

[davidricardo86]

Any updates?

[nissanic89]

i guess im just gonna reuse the stockies well see how it all works out, they are putting it back together now