Road noise in rain- Sound Deadening

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Just took a drive in my 08 SL AWD...in rain, it sounds like the rear hatch is totally open...very loud.

Does anyone have any solutions or write ups on soundproofing the rear? Id like to get some carpet padding or something and cover the spare tire area with it, I wonder if that would help.


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big_c wrote:Just took a drive in my 08 SL AWD...in rain, it sounds like the rear hatch is totally open...very loud.

Does anyone have any solutions or write ups on soundproofing the rear? Id like to get some carpet padding or something and cover the spare tire area with it, I wonder if that would help.
second skin seems to work great..i am going to do 3m rubberized spray in the wheel wells and trunk area next week weather pending

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I soundproofed my 2012 spare tire area with fatmat last week. Truthfully I can't tell a whole lot of difference, but I haven't driven it in the rain either. There was a considerable amount of sound proofing already under the spare tire from the factory. I was going to do the wheel wells, but there was already insulation there and I didn't want to disturb it and wasn't sure how to take the panels off anyway.

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i think the noise might be coming from the hollow rubber trimming around the door

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The weatherstripping?

Does anyone know of a write up to remove the plastic pieces to allow access to the wheel well area inside the car?

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I've got a cargo liner mat in mine which seems to help a little.

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Secondskin is an amazing product. I'd highly recommend it to get rid of the road noise. I'd do the doors first before applying deadener everywhere.

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Any write ups on how to remove the rear cargo plastic areas? I think I am going to apply the sound deadening spray and possibly the fatmat type insulation that can be found at home depot, appears to be similar

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Also, this car is OK for road noise, especially with michelin defender tires. The noise im referring to is specifically in the rain or snow, when something is getting thrown into the wheel wells from the road. It really does sound like the hatch is wide open.

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big_c wrote:Any write ups on how to remove the rear cargo plastic areas? I think I am going to apply the sound deadening spray and possibly the fatmat type insulation that can be found at home depot, appears to be similar
Please do not use Peel n Seal. It' does minimal deadening and smells like tar. It's not very useful for sound deadening.

I haven't removed the plastics yet, sorry bro.

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A few thoughts, having done sound deadening on several cars:

1) Search posts by "GT mat" here on NICO. Great product, cheaper than the competition, blocks heat as well, and they offer NICO folks a good discount.
2) Wheelwells are the primary issue. Remove the plastic wheelwell liner, clean it, and coat the outside of it with 2-3 coats of spray-on bedliner, reinstall. Works great.
NOTE - By "outside", I mean the part of the liner that you DON'T see when you look in the wheelwell.
3) Sound deadening the rear hatch area will help as well. Doing the interior of the doors is a good call too, but more work.
4) Factory Service Manual is here: http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Rogue/2008/
5) The stuff at Home Depot is NOT proper sound deadening. It does not dampen resonance, and you'll put in a lot of work for minimal results. Do it right with a product that adheres to the sheet metal and absorbs resonance, muffles sound, and insulates from heat and cold.

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AZhitman wrote:A few thoughts, having done sound deadening on several cars:

1) Search posts by "GT mat" here on NICO. Great product, cheaper than the competition, blocks heat as well, and they offer NICO folks a good discount.
2) Wheelwells are the primary issue. Remove the plastic wheelwell liner, clean it, and coat the outside of it with 2-3 coats of spray-on bedliner, reinstall. Works great.
NOTE - By "outside", I mean the part of the liner that you DON'T see when you look in the wheelwell.
3) Sound deadening the rear hatch area will help as well. Doing the interior of the doors is a good call too, but more work.
4) Factory Service Manual is here: http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Rogue/2008/
5) The stuff at Home Depot is NOT proper sound deadening. It does not dampen resonance, and you'll put in a lot of work for minimal results. Do it right with a product that adheres to the sheet metal and absorbs resonance, muffles sound, and insulates from heat and cold.
boss, rogues dont even have the plastic wheelwell liner / splash guard in the rear. thats 95% of the problem :-/

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Ooof. My bad. :)

WELL THEY NEED THEM THEN! ;)

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AZhitman wrote:Ooof. My bad. :)

WELL THEY NEED THEM THEN! ;)
lmfao. that actually made me chuckle lol

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GT Mat rocks, very friendly and shipped me the 10 sq ft today. Ill be installing this mainly over the wheel wells and spare tire are if there is enough left. Anything I miss, I will cover with undercoating spray. Hopefully this quiets the hatch area quite a bit. I will do a write up when the material arrives.

Damn Nissan their cost cutting...no wheel well plastic and no sound deadening. Hope the $22 they saved was worth it!!!

Although I suspect this was a move to further distinguish the rogue from murano...its all a balance of sales price, build quality, and features.

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Yeah, that's a load of crap. I'm guessing a few cans of bedliner in the wheelwells will still help, maybe followed by some rubberized undercoating.

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big_c wrote:GT Mat rocks, very friendly and shipped me the 10 sq ft today. Ill be installing this mainly over the wheel wells and spare tire are if there is enough left. Anything I miss, I will cover with undercoating spray. Hopefully this quiets the hatch area quite a bit. I will do a write up when the material arrives.

Damn Nissan their cost cutting...no wheel well plastic and no sound deadening. Hope the $22 they saved was worth it!!!

Although I suspect this was a move to further distinguish the rogue from murano...its all a balance of sales price, build quality, and features.
Better order some more.I used 18 sf on the spare tire area alone.

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ImStricken wrote:
AZhitman wrote:A few thoughts, having done sound deadening on several cars:

1) Search posts by "GT mat" here on NICO. Great product, cheaper than the competition, blocks heat as well, and they offer NICO folks a good discount.
2) Wheelwells are the primary issue. Remove the plastic wheelwell liner, clean it, and coat the outside of it with 2-3 coats of spray-on bedliner, reinstall. Works great.
NOTE - By "outside", I mean the part of the liner that you DON'T see when you look in the wheelwell.
3) Sound deadening the rear hatch area will help as well. Doing the interior of the doors is a good call too, but more work.
4) Factory Service Manual is here: http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Rogue/2008/
5) The stuff at Home Depot is NOT proper sound deadening. It does not dampen resonance, and you'll put in a lot of work for minimal results. Do it right with a product that adheres to the sheet metal and absorbs resonance, muffles sound, and insulates from heat and cold.
boss, rogues dont even have the plastic wheelwell liner / splash guard in the rear. thats 95% of the problem :-/
That and the crappy oem tires,u can lit. take a quarter and tap the rear fender liner and hear it churping inside..sad but true. the muranos dont have road noise issues at all :wtf2:

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/mult ... ng-car.htm
as soon as the weather breaks i will try this.i will do the front fenders and the rears.Recently i did a rear brake job on a Camry and the rears had a thick waterproof carpet on the outside and the trunk had another thick rubber carpet over the wheel wells Image

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I believe my dealer replaced the rubber seals around the doors when there was a recall a couple years ago with them freezing the doors shut. Now I notice when there is a strong cross wind on the hwy I can feel air coming in at the top right corner of the windows.

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Jostudly wrote:I believe my dealer replaced the rubber seals around the doors when there was a recall a couple years ago with them freezing the doors shut. Now I notice when there is a strong cross wind on the hwy I can feel air coming in at the top right corner of the windows.

Image i just helped to wrap up a trunk and doors on a ek civic...holly cow its like a lincoln town car in here now.Wish i had a heated garage :werd: next up will be the weatherstripping

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I'm curious if any one has had any luck with the GTMat? I am looking to minimize the high level of noise coming from the hatch area while raining/wet roads (I live in the PNW, so the roads are wet 300 days a year), and wheel well noise.

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I've used it on several restorations. Awesome stuff.

Skip that junk from Home Depot. It's not made for automotive applications, and will degrade and make a mess. It also doesn't do much for panel resonance.

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The second day I had my Rogue, my son commented on the noise. (It was raining) Since then I have noticed it a couple of times...Is there anything a non mechanical person can do? Aside from turning up the radio..lol?

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Redtress wrote:Is there anything a non mechanical person can do? Aside from turning up the radio..lol?
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Redtress wrote:The second day I had my Rogue, my son commented on the noise. (It was raining) Since then I have noticed it a couple of times...Is there anything a non mechanical person can do? Aside from turning up the radio..lol?
You don't need to be "mechanical" to apply sound deadening. It's a good opportunity to get more familiar with your car, and get the self-satisfaction of doing it yourself!

Welcome aboard... :)

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Jake43 wrote:I'm curious if any one has had any luck with the GTMat? I am looking to minimize the high level of noise coming from the hatch area while raining/wet roads (I live in the PNW, so the roads are wet 300 days a year), and wheel well noise.
Check out some reviews posted to Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/GTMAT-Automotive- ... Descending

You can also read some testimonials on our Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/GTSoundControl

Here's a thread with some more reviews: gtmat-automotive-sound-deadener-free-sa ... 62778.html


We are also coming out with a new butyl based mat soon! Keep your eye on our Facebook page for more information.


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