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they break so many laws it has almost lost its comedic value... but not yet
RIAA = the Law
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Rockenreno
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Knock on my door with RIAA printed on your vest and see what type of reception you get. Just watch Leon in "The Professional" and see how he opens the door. I am sure a law suit against these paramilitaries/parapolice will shut them down. No self respecting DA will want these chuckleheads in his neighborhood causing problems and impersonating legitiment police officers (oxymoron.. I know).
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I think the issue of this article is that the RIAA is going after people selling and pirating the music in an illegal manner. Their motives and actions are solely based on greed. They use deception and draconian methods to shut people down and make them stop. Heck, im sure suspected terrorlst get better and fair treatment compared to how the RIAA goes about things. Possibly because the true Authorities have to follow laws.
This is how I know that the RIAA is messed up and does not truly know what is going on. The real issue/problem with music piracy is not the downloading of music. Plenty of people purchase music online and royalties get paid to the artists. The real problem for the RIAA and the music companies is the ripping and sharing of music that is offline. If I borrow a CD from a buddy and rip it, there is no tracking method for this illegal action. Yet, the RIAA goes after people downloading music and sharing music. Instead of making a product that discourage this action and promotes legal sharing/buying of music, they just stoop to their draconian methods of suing people into submission and harassing them. The RIAA and the music companies need a dose of reality and need to be pulled infront of Congress for their actions or worse, become a federally regulated industry (declared a monopoly). There is nothing like Congress to control how you do business and stifle your capital making potential. Maybe the people of the US need to call to the government for a mediator in this issue when they get fed up with this crap.
This is how I know that the RIAA is messed up and does not truly know what is going on. The real issue/problem with music piracy is not the downloading of music. Plenty of people purchase music online and royalties get paid to the artists. The real problem for the RIAA and the music companies is the ripping and sharing of music that is offline. If I borrow a CD from a buddy and rip it, there is no tracking method for this illegal action. Yet, the RIAA goes after people downloading music and sharing music. Instead of making a product that discourage this action and promotes legal sharing/buying of music, they just stoop to their draconian methods of suing people into submission and harassing them. The RIAA and the music companies need a dose of reality and need to be pulled infront of Congress for their actions or worse, become a federally regulated industry (declared a monopoly). There is nothing like Congress to control how you do business and stifle your capital making potential. Maybe the people of the US need to call to the government for a mediator in this issue when they get fed up with this crap.
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This is what is wrong with the world we live in. The RIAA has gone so far over the line that it isn't even a spec on the horizon any more. Personally, their tactics greatly discourage me from purchasing ANYTHING related to them. I am not going to pay for something I don't believe in.Cold_Zero wrote:I think the issue of this article is that the RIAA is going after people selling and pirating the music in an illegal manner. Their motives and actions are solely based on greed. They use deception and draconian methods to shut people down and make them stop.
I read somewhere that the MPAA is noticing the blatant errors made by the RIAA and therefore not approaching the movie piracy scene in the same way. To them I say "bravo", hopefully they can come up with a good way of cutting down on piracy without making asses of themselves and the Constitution.
I won't even go into the whole "piracy is wrong" thing because I feel that a certain amount of file sharing is beneficial to spread the music/movies etc. I download things like a rental, and if I like it I buy it. If I don't I can toss it away forever into the depths of my hard disk. The only company that should be worrying about me is Blockbuster Video.
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If the RIAA was sucessful in ending music piracy, would the price of music/cd's go down? No. This is a failed attempt to maintain some part of the long past monopoloy on the music industry. Since they cant stop or buy up all the independent lables that keep popping up (competition and technology is a good thing) they are going after the one tanglable thing they can sue, music downloaders. I applaud you for sticking to your guns. I buy music only after I have listened to it and like what I buy. I prefer buying music through iTunes.Rockenreno wrote:This is what is wrong with the world we live in. The RIAA has gone so far over the line that it isn't even a spec on the horizon any more. Personally, their tactics greatly discourage me from purchasing ANYTHING related to them. I am not going to pay for something I don't believe in.
Quote »I won't even go into the whole "piracy is wrong" thing because I feel that a certain amount of file sharing is beneficial to spread the music/movies etc. I download things like a rental, and if I like it I buy it. If I don't I can toss it away forever into the depths of my hard disk. The only company that should be worrying about me is Blockbuster Video.[/quote]
Yes, lets not make this the issue we discuss. The music companies though did have the same reservations about putting music on the radio. They thought that no one would buy albums if they could listen to it for free on the radio. What happened? Free marketing and a rise in the music industry.
These a$$ need to come by my house. We have tons of copied CDs. I'll give them my own personal welcome at the door, care of louisville slugger. If they're on my property, i can do what ever i want if they start taking my stuff right?
And as for the Indie stuff, thats about the only thing i'll buy. i buy lots of stuff, especially from overseas, thats on indie labels. the only records i get from popular labels are second hand CDs from used CD stores.
And as for the Indie stuff, thats about the only thing i'll buy. i buy lots of stuff, especially from overseas, thats on indie labels. the only records i get from popular labels are second hand CDs from used CD stores.
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Rockenreno wrote:The only company that should be worrying about me is Blockbuster Video.
You've made some great points about the sins of the RIAA. But I stopped bringing my business to blockbuster when the movies I'm eager to rent are either checked out because they only have 1 friggin copy of it or they don't carry it. Prices are ridiculous and customer service is blah, I use Netflix now and rent well over 50 movies a month for only $20 per month. Oh and they don't hit you with horrendous late fees like Blockbuster either because you keep DVD's as long as you want. :ylsuper
the riaa is just too damn greedy. all those websites you download songs off of for a dollar, most of the money doesnt go to the artists at all. in fact just about everything goes somewhere else, and the artists might be making pennies per song you buy for a dollar. its sickening. personally, id love to download the music, burn it, and paypal my favorite artists 5$ since thats probabbly more than the royalty most receive.
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WHen you sell music cheap, it sells well... I bought 15 cds for just under 100 dollars the day after christmas from Tower Records. http://www.towerrecords.com/promo.asp?p ... istmas%201
Some of the bands are<were> definately mainstream and I got their cds for 6 friggin bucks.. Wooohoo If everyone sold their music for under or at 10 bucks I would definately purchase it more often.
btw Netflix is awesome! Ive rented more musix from them since Christmas than I ever have been able to from BLockbuster and its been free to far too
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Some of the bands are<were> definately mainstream and I got their cds for 6 friggin bucks.. Wooohoo If everyone sold their music for under or at 10 bucks I would definately purchase it more often.
btw Netflix is awesome! Ive rented more musix from them since Christmas than I ever have been able to from BLockbuster and its been free to far too
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Wow that is nuts. Honestly....everyone complains that CD's are too exspensive.....but to me 12 bucks for a cd is not bad. Do people complain about how much DVD's cost or how much a damn vifdeo game cost?? How about car parts. Isnt 2800 for a basic turbo kit a bit excessive. I just boycott certain retailers. Like I NEVER buy CD's from San Goody or any of those music stores in a mall. 18.99 for a single disc....LOL not in this lifetime. I usually buy my CD's from cheapcds.com or if it is a more mainstream artists look at Target. Sometimes the mall stores will hae sales. but still 13.99 is a bit, when Target usually sells it for 11.99. I dont agree with the RIAA suing 12 year old kids or harrassing people on the street corner, but at the same time I do think they have a leg to stand on. Piracy is illegal hands down. I wont even try to argue that no matter if CD's jump to 25.99. I do it too, but that doesnt make it right. Out of my 1700 files, I would say 200 are homemade (drag racing, drifitng, etc). The rest are MP3's that I illegally downloaded.
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as long as your not on the street selling it then your not gonna get busted, ive been pirating softwear and music for over 6 years (long b4 napster came out) and have pass alot of softwear and music and vids, and the only time i even remotly got busted is when i was uploading too much and my ISP yelled at me.. there are just too many people downloading music, vids, and softwear to get rid of pirating, it will always be part of the computer and always has been... to think that they are gonna stop it is dumb, its like the "war on drugs" its always gonna be part of life...
MasterMan couldn't be any more right. I have a friend who downloads about 5 albums a night. He has well over 5,000 CDs. He really does listen to all of them, and is a huge fan of music, but even if they were 5 bucks a pop, who has 25k to drop on music?
But the RIAA is definitly out of line, they simply aren't getting the job done, and the only people they have seemed to scare off are the college kids who have no clue what they are doing with thier computer, aside from downloading the latest top 20 from Kazaa.
Someone mentioned it earlier, but I was recently reading an article that stated for the pay sites the artists gets around 5% of each song you download, sometimes less. So the artists receiving all their "royalties" are getting about half a cent per song. Hope they don't spend all that money in one place.
As much as I can I try to buy CDs directly from the bands when I'm at shows. If not, I get my CDs from independant labels, at independantly owned record stores (which usually have much better prices than most other places). This is also much easier for me to do since I don't really listen to much mainstream music.
But the RIAA is definitly out of line, they simply aren't getting the job done, and the only people they have seemed to scare off are the college kids who have no clue what they are doing with thier computer, aside from downloading the latest top 20 from Kazaa.
Someone mentioned it earlier, but I was recently reading an article that stated for the pay sites the artists gets around 5% of each song you download, sometimes less. So the artists receiving all their "royalties" are getting about half a cent per song. Hope they don't spend all that money in one place.
As much as I can I try to buy CDs directly from the bands when I'm at shows. If not, I get my CDs from independant labels, at independantly owned record stores (which usually have much better prices than most other places). This is also much easier for me to do since I don't really listen to much mainstream music.
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