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What else could you expect from a republican governor?

NJ residents have been really pissed as he talks out of both sides of his mouth.

His numbers have been heading south here in NJ

Future candidate for president?

I don't think so

Hope he goes to Iowa and stays there or any other red state

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/0 ... j_for.html

http://www.ksdk.com/news/world/article/ ... er-flights

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He wrote out the check, as long as it doesn't bounce, non story.

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*yawn*

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^ What he said.

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bigbadberry3 wrote:He wrote out the check, as long as it doesn't bounce, non story.
He wrote the check only after it became a firestorm issue here in NJ

For someone preaching fiscal responsibility and going after working class teachers etc he uses public money to go to his son's baseball game. He was too lasy to walk his fat a** a few hundred feet to the game and used a state vehicle.
Then he left the game at the 5th inning to attend a political event with republicans from Iowa.

As the title stated

Republican Hypocrisy

Don't preach fiscal responsibility to others if you can't do it yourself

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Ha. This wasn't what I was thinking it would be about.

This was.

Eric Cantor:
Cantor also criticized Democrats’ “Medi-scare” attacks, saying that the charges that the GOP is taking medicine from grandma to pad the pockets of the rich isn’t helpful.
President Obama:
The president added that he is all for a reduction of demagoguery, an issue he understands since he is the ‘job killing, death panel, probably-wasn't-born-here president.'
Please note that it's an actual quote.

In other words, "STFU, crybaby." Or, if you prefer: "DON'T START NOTHIN, WON'T BE NOTHIN."

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IBCoupe wrote:Ha. This wasn't what I was thinking it would be about.

This was.

Eric Cantor:
Cantor also criticized Democrats’ “Medi-scare” attacks, saying that the charges that the GOP is taking medicine from grandma to pad the pockets of the rich isn’t helpful.
President Obama:
The president added that he is all for a reduction of demagoguery, an issue he understands since he is the ‘job killing, death panel, probably-wasn't-born-here president.'
Please note that it's an actual quote.

In other words, "STFU, crybaby." Or, if you prefer: "DON'T START NOTHIN, WON'T BE NOTHIN."
For more on republican hypocrosy one would be hard pressed to top Bill O

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/ ... turns-five

It is a long read of the entire court filing but it seems O'Reilly still hasn't learned his lesson by now going after Anthony Weiner
Perhaps he is upset over the purported photo of Weiner in his underwear showing that perhaps his weiner is bigger than Bill O's
I think all republicans should stay away from any issues of sex since they are the party of so called family and moral values.
But then again they are also the party of small government and fiscal responsibility and they have really screwed that up also.

To quote Greg
"yawn" on the entire republican party

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DO AS WE SAY AND NOT AS WE DO AND STFU! :inoutgay:

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telcoman wrote:
Don't preach fiscal responsibility to others if you can't do it yourself
Amen. Typically, the republicans talk thetalk, but their walk is far from congruent. We had the same problem with Arnie here in CA. He ended up being a total proct. (I learned that word actually had a meaning today)

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The problem is this:

telco's position might have a shred of credibility if he hadn't mistaken personal finance with public finance so many times in the past - For example, Gingrich's spending habits at Tiffany's.

I thought the libby position was "my personal life is none of your business".

telco's position might have a shred of credibility if he hadn't mistaken private behavior with public behavior so many times in the past - For example, a certain legislator's alleged propensity for soliciting in a restroom.

I thought the libby position was "my personal life is none of your business".

See a pattern here? Cry wolf much?

Now, in all seriousness, he may have a point, but it's been lost in all the misguided hyperbole and blind adherence to the "party line". The NJ Gov chopper use is borderline... as I read it, it's flying anyway, it's paid for already, and there's actually a mention of the pilots having to log a certain # of flying hours (which have to occur, with or without a passenger).

...but we can't be bothered with such trivialities as FACTS when we're attacking someone from the other party, now, can we?

BTW, please don't think I missed the "fat a$$" jab.

I thought the libby position was "don't judge people based on their personal appearance".

I think I've figured it out, though:

Heterosexual White suburban male veteran with a pension, a luxury car, and jokes about Arabs, women and fat people? Howie, you sound like a closeted Republican to me. :)

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AZhitman wrote:Howie, you sound like a closeted Republican to me. :)
I think you might have just broken his sociometer.

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AZhitman wrote:The problem is this:

telco's position might have a shred of credibility if he hadn't mistaken personal finance with public finance so many times in the past - For example, Gingrich's spending habits at Tiffany's.

I thought the libby position was "my personal life is none of your business".
What you fail to understand Greg is if an individual is going to campaign on fiscal responsibility for our government then their personal inability to manage their own finances is the peoples business
Newt's refusal to answer those questions on Meet the Press and Face the Nation pretty much sunk his presidential ambitions
AZhitman wrote:telco's position might have a shred of credibility if he hadn't mistaken private behavior with public behavior so many times in the past - For example, a certain legislator's alleged propensity for soliciting in a restroom.
I thought the libby position was "my personal life is none of your business".
Again Greg when a member of a party that rails against homosexuality and then gets caught soliciting in a public restroom it then becomes the publics business
AZhitman wrote:Now, in all seriousness, he may have a point, but it's been lost in all the misguided hyperbole and blind adherence to the "party line". The NJ Gov chopper use is borderline... as I read it, it's flying anyway, it's paid for already, and there's actually a mention of the pilots having to log a certain # of flying hours (which have to occur, with or without a passenger).

...but we can't be bothered with such trivialities as FACTS when we're attacking someone from the other party, now, can we?

BTW, please don't think I missed the "fat a$$" jab.
Again you fail to understand what our governor did was a misuse of the a state owned chopper. He originally said he would not reimburse the state until what you refer to the lame street media brought the issue to the public's attention.
I'm pleased you noticed he does have a weight problem
AZhitman wrote:I think I've figured it out, though:

Heterosexual White suburban male veteran with a pension, a luxury car, and jokes about Arabs, women and fat people? Howie, you sound like a closeted Republican to me. :)
No you don't have me figured out

I have you figured out

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telcoman wrote:personal inability to manage their own finances
Judgemental assumptions.

Again, a person's personal finances are none of our business. Welcome to America.
telcoman wrote:gets caught soliciting in a public restroom it then becomes the publics business
Alleged and unsubstantiated.

Again, a person's sexual preferences and actions are none of our business. Welcome to America.
telcoman wrote:you fail to understand what our governor did was a misuse of the a state owned chopper.
Arguable.

Again, a person is innocent until charged and proven guilty in a court of law. Welcome to America.

I didn't notice you pipe up when Pelosi's booze-soaked taxpayer-funded family jaunts were brought to light. Could that be because she's a Democrat?

You'll make a damn fine crotchety old Republican once you figure out that you simply can't reconcile your personal politically-motivated vitriol with the hypocritical party stance on personal freedoms.

p.s. I'm reveling in my unlimited (and potentially unfair) supply of ammunition... see, when you despise BOTH parties, you can launch twice as many sorties. Impossible to do when you're bound to a party line. :)

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AZhitman wrote: Again, a person's sexual preferences and actions are none of our business. Welcome to America.
You are partially correct in this. Once a party climbs on the back of political office, they really can't expect to get off without getting bit. When a public official takes a "wide stance" in the men's room and gets caught, he's fair game for the comments that follow.


AZhitman wrote: p.s. I'm reveling in my unlimited (and potentially unfair) supply of ammunition... see, when you despise BOTH parties, you can launch twice as many sorties. Impossible to do when you're bound to a party line. :)
The problem, my good man, is fighting both parties often results in collateral damage, which often includes one's own foot. It's much safer to choose a side, the liberal side, as you've done so often here. :yesnod

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telcoman wrote:Future candidate for president?

I don't think so
So what is your opinion of a Democrat Senator who did run for the Presidency and was just indicted on felony charges for misuse of campaign funds?

Z

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Oh, he's DEFINITELY a candidate.

Especially considering the way he treated his wife.

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szh wrote:
telcoman wrote:Future candidate for president?

I don't think so
So what is your opinion of a Democrat Senator who did run for the Presidency and was just indicted on felony charges for misuse of campaign funds?

Z
Ok I'll give you some bonus points since Edwards out scored Mark Sanford by producing a love child
I find it hard to believe a Democrat doesn't believe in using a condom.

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-06-24/poli ... M:POLITICS

Republicans not using one I can understand because perhaps they don't want to offend the religious right.

Edwards is a scoundrel and we have them in both parties.

So we've got one stupid democrat and probably won't be the last.
This week we found out we''ve got one with a big member that any of us would be proud to own. :chuckle:
It doesn't appear thus far any laws were broken

Generally when it comes to scoundrels it is worse for republicans because of their preaching family values, morality and anti homosexuality tolerance, and opposition to same sex unions/marriage and equal benefits for all no matter what their sexual orentation happens to be.

For a party that preaches less government control over citizens lives they seem to want to get into everyones bedroom and doctors office.

The tea party campaigned on jobs and thus far have spent more time concerned about abortion, anti union, anti working class, and anti female bs

In my opinion they will be single term as the GOP loses control of the house in the next election.

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AZhitman wrote:I didn't notice you pipe up when Pelosi's booze-soaked taxpayer-funded family jaunts were brought to light. Could that be because she's a Democrat?
If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, this was pretty well debunked.

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AZhitman wrote:
telcoman wrote:gets caught soliciting in a public restroom it then becomes the publics business
Alleged and unsubstantiated.

Again, a person's sexual preferences and actions are none of our business. Welcome to America.
I guess you're referring to Larry Craig. He was initially charged with lewd conduct (a felony) and plead guilty to the lesser charge of disorderly conduct (a misdemeanor). The actions the charges were based on did not change. Through the guilty plea his actions in the restroom are substantiated.

A Person's sexual preference is none of our business. A person's sexual actions become our business when they are practiced in a public venue. That doesn't matter whether it's homosexual or heterosexual.

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Regarding Chris Christie's actions. I agree with Telco to an extent (just this once). Christie was clearly wrong by sliming free use of a state police helicopter solely to attend his kid's little league game, which is why he had to reimburse the State Police.
His lame excuse was the state police pilots must fly X number of hours per month to "stay sharp" so he felt his "personal" use would cost the state nothing extra. The 2000 lb gorilla in the room was that his usage was 100% personal and had nothing to do whatsoever with the business of state. What's more disturbing is when Christie was U.S Attorney for the state of NJ, he went after people who used state assets for personal use. Classic hypocrisy.

As far as publicized sex scandals that plague our politicians. It's not that the Democrats are any less sleazy than Republicans, it's that the Republicans have pushed the "family values" platform more often, and as a result, end up looking worse when they get caught for inappropriate behavior.


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