Replacing belts... im a bit.. lost/confused

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Hey, i was driving home last night to the squeel of my belts.. smelling burning rubber.. didnt care, the belts were shot anyways.. but the alternator belt flew off.. .. ive only owned the car for a few weeks, and have barely gotten to the engine compartment.. let alone the belts.. Im not used to the RWD engine setup.. its still new to me. but i might have it figured out.. the only problem is the lack of work space.. what are some tips/pointers to installing belts?.. that dang cooling fan is gettin in my way


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I did my belts from underneath the car. Only problem is I had to break a lot of the bolts that hold on the plastic underguard, so I never put it back on.

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you can take the cooling fan out for doing the belts, and put it back on when you're done.

or remove it for good and wire the electric fan in.

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How do you take the cooling fan off :-/

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Your shouldn't have to take the fan out at all. Once the belt is loose from the the pulleys, you can work the belt around the fan and then out.

If you think the clearance is bad for the belts, taking the fan out is a bigger pain in my opinion.

Oh, and if your alt. tore the belt, you may want to check to see if it's seized.

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Hmm.. indeed i shall.. LAME houston weather prevents me from working on it.. so instead, im driving a truck with no breaks... lol

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you dont have to take the fan off, but it makes it easyer to do. Well it was for me.

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K, im under my car now, no more rain.. for the time being. I loosened the lock nut, and then the adjuster screw/bolt, and the alternator wont adjust the tention.. it remains the same.. is there another bolt/screw i need to loosen? I got the power steering belt done No problem, and i also see how the belts can fit around the fan.. that was no problem. But i had an easier way to remove the belts that were bad.. Wire snipps

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Yes, the alt. does have another bolt, it's the bolt it pivots on, it must be loosened to get the alt. to pivot, but you do not want to remove that bolt completely.

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Ok, the bolt on the bottom of the alternator right? ill be getting right back on it then

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You got it. Good luck.

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yup, i got it, done deal, just had to freaking un-torque that alternator bolt.. i swear.. someone must have used a 1000lb torque on it.. lol

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Ha, ya, I did that to myself and cussed myself out for an hour the next time I had to loosen it.

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Hey guys - i know i'm digging up an old post here - but i'd rather dig this up then start another thread so -

I'm on the belt that goes from the fan to the p.s. to the crank pulley. And can't for the life of me figure out how to get it off.

I was actually able to take off the (what i do believe) is the tensioner completely. The two bolts on the back, and the one on front. So yeah. I'm stuck, and very lost. Someone please help out - I'm getting quite frustrated because I'm sure it is going to be something soo very simple.

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CRyan wrote:Hey guys - i know i'm digging up an old post here - but i'd rather dig this up then start another thread so -

I'm on the belt that goes from the fan to the p.s. to the crank pulley. And can't for the life of me figure out how to get it off.

I was actually able to take off the (what i do believe) is the tensioner completely. The two bolts on the back, and the one on front. So yeah. I'm stuck, and very lost. Someone please help out - I'm getting quite frustrated because I'm sure it is going to be something soo very simple.
I have hicas so my car might be different. you will defintitely have a tensioneer on the power steering pump. you need to loosen the 14mm nut so pump can slide in the groove. you may have to also back off the tensioner bolt if it is tight. for hicas there is another 14mm bolt to loosen.

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zerothread?id=253102

look at the first 3 pics. the first pic is a non hicas car and shows the tensioning bolt. the next pic is a hicas pump . not sure if you have that extra bolt to remove.

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vancouverbc wrote:zerothread?id=253102

look at the first 3 pics. the first pic is a non hicas car and shows the tensioning bolt. the next pic is a hicas pump . not sure if you have that extra bolt to remove.
Now see here's the deal. You see where the tensioning bolt and locking nut is? Connected to that bracket. I was able to take that whole bracket off with nothing happening.

Explanation? Am I missing something here?

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nothing is going to move until you loosen all the bolts. if you look at my second picture, there is another bolt that needs loosening. not sure where your bolt would be. looking for a oval hole where the bolt would slide.

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vancouverbc wrote:nothing is going to move until you loosen all the bolts. if you look at my second picture, there is another bolt that needs loosening. not sure where your bolt would be. looking for a oval hole where the bolt would slide.
Alrighty - will check tomorrow - the interior has a fond stench to it. SO, I've been removing the carpet and going to dip it in some deluded bleach water. It worked the last time with my friends GMC trucks carpet. Figured it won't hurt it too terribly bad.

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Alrighty well, I've gotten the p/s pulley off. Thanks for the help guys.

Next now is the belt that runs to the a/c compressor/crank pulley. As you know, it has a tensioner pulley between it - and everytime I lift the nut holding it in place breaks loose, and when i push down, it seems not to move. Which way is this tensioner pulley supposed to be swinging, up to me or down to the ground? Any help will be greatly appreciated

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CRyan wrote:Alrighty well, I've gotten the p/s pulley off. Thanks for the help guys.

Next now is the belt that runs to the a/c compressor/crank pulley. As you know, it has a tensioner pulley between it - and everytime I lift the nut holding it in place breaks loose, and when i push down, it seems not to move. Which way is this tensioner pulley supposed to be swinging, up to me or down to the ground? Any help will be greatly appreciated
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What you need to do:1. But the bracket behind the pulley, Bolt pulley with bolt to little bracket thew slider thing, put the long bolt threw the bottom of the hole underneath/back of the pulley and screw it into the bracket.2. Tighten the pulley bolt up enough so where the pulley is snug but can still slide up or down. Put on belt.3. You tighten the bolt that is on the bottom (the "i"). As you tighten that bolt it pushes on the top and moves the pulley down which tensions it.

_iL-0 i

Side View (like from side of car)i = long bolt (goes threw L)L = bracket- = short bolt0 = pulley_ = top

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modulation wrote:What you need to do:1. But the bracket behind the pulley, Bolt pulley with bolt to little bracket thew slider thing, put the long bolt threw the bottom of the hole underneath/back of the pulley and screw it into the bracket.2. Tighten the pulley bolt up enough so where the pulley is snug but can still slide up or down. Put on belt.3. You tighten the bolt that is on the bottom (the "i"). As you tighten that bolt it pushes on the top and moves the pulley down which tensions it.

_iL-0 i

Side View (like from side of car)i = long bolt (goes threw L)L = bracket- = short bolt0 = pulley_ = top
I have that one off. I'm on the bottom side where the a/c pulley to crank pulley is. With the tensioner pulley between the two. It doesn't seem to sway either way - is there another bolt I need to break loose? I'm afraid if i push too terribly much (down, would be tightening the bolt ON the tensioner pulley) I might mess something up.

If i pull on it long enough it breaks the nut on the tensioner pulley loose.

Am I not pushing hard enough? Or is there a bolt i need to break loose or what. I'm sure i need to be pushing down (towards the ground from top side of engine bay), but it doesn't seem to budge

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It doesn't move to the left or right.The pulley moves up or down.Besides the horizontal bolt that bolts the pulley to the bracket, there is also a vertical bolt that is up/down with it's head upside down facing the road. You tighten/loosen this bolt and the pulley will slide up/down not right/left.


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