Remote Starter Succe$$

[JBRO69]

I have some friends in the Tech Center and I asked them their recommendations for a remote start application that did not require me to place one of my fobs in the car. They stated that they could not comment on what Nissan was working on, but that obviously there was nothing from the them that was ready for this fall/winter through the stealerships. Yeah, they told me to f#ck off on that aspect.

But they do know all of the aftermarket places in town since they either do personal dealings with them or even worked for them in the past and they made a few calls. They directed me to Car Tunes in Allen Park Michigan and they had what I needed and knew how to install it without messing up the instrument panel. I now have a Code Alarm CA421 up and working. It took them seven hours (org est 4 hours)and $299 to get it working because the Coupe is wired differently from the Altima Sedan they had previously done, but they did get it right in one shot. Now I still have to have a small remote (about 1" x 5/8") attached to my key ring, but that's OK due to the low cost and the fact that I usually wear a jacket when its cold anyways. It's not that bad in the pocket either btw.

At first the menu screen got screwed up and the air bag warning light stayed on so they had to debug for awhile, but then they did a factory reset sequence with the key and it straightened out the system just fine. So I must stress, its not just knowing what part to install, but who you have install it.

I then took the car down to the Nissan dealer and had them check on the shutter with my brakes. They noticed the remote start and asked where I had it done because they didn't know of a place yet that had done it right and wanted to know. Oh well, I shared with them and now I share with you.

Oh and a big BTW, the Nissan dealer is giving me new front brake assemblies (brakes, pads and rotors) due to the shutter. It was a good day!

[mcheddadi]

you have cvt or 6mt?

[JBRO69]

CVT

[CanadianCoupe]

I am planning on getting remote start installed and I talked to three shops that I know can do it. The best price was $600, but I have a 6MT and the fob was 2-way and 5000ft range. The guy never mentioned if he needed a fob for installation, and I never thought of that before, they are expensive to buy from the dealership.

[alphapig]

I assume that it requires some sort of bypass to get passed the requirement of holding the brake during ignition...

Cool feature though. An alarm would be nice as well.

[rjdmmfl1]

I have some friends in the Tech Center and I asked them their recommendations for a remote start application that did not require me to place one of my fobs in the car. They stated that they could not comment on what Nissan was working on, but that obviously there was nothing from the them that was ready for this fall/winter through the stealerships. Yeah, they told me to f#ck off on that aspect.

But they do know all of the aftermarket places in town since they either do personal dealings with them or even worked for them in the past and they made a few calls. They directed me to Car Tunes in Allen Park Michigan and they had what I needed and knew how to install it without messing up the instrument panel. I now have a Code Alarm CA421 up and working. It took them seven hours (org est 4 hours)and $299 to get it working because the Coupe is wired differently from the Altima Sedan they had previously done, but they did get it right in one shot. Now I still have to have a small remote (about 1" x 5/8") attached to my key ring, but that's OK due to the low cost and the fact that I usually wear a jacket when its cold anyways. It's not that bad in the pocket either btw.

At first the menu screen got screwed up and the air bag warning light stayed on so they had to debug for awhile, but then they did a factory reset sequence with the key and it straightened out the system just fine. So I must stress, its not just knowing what part to install, but who you have install it.

I then took the car down to the Nissan dealer and had them check on the shutter with my brakes. They noticed the remote start and asked where I had it done because they didn't know of a place yet that had done it right and wanted to know. Oh well, I shared with them and now I share with you.

Oh and a big BTW, the Nissan dealer is giving me new front brake assemblies (brakes, pads and rotors) due to the shutter. It was a good day!

a simple search would have shown you that we've had remote starts installed on our cars for over a year now... both aftermarket and dealer installed options! You posted a page long message just to restate what 20+ other people have done...

[JBRO69]

a simple search would have shown you that we've had remote starts installed on our cars for over a year now... both aftermarket and dealer installed options! You posted a page long message just to restate what 20+ other people have done...

I did do a search and found that one the prices were high and that people (like you) gave incomplete information. Just saying go to your dealer and pay $700 and get the magical option that makes it work with your key fob doesn't help much. Why haven't you posted detailed information on how to do this and exactly where it can be done. But then I've already figured you out to be a thread ****ter. I actually posted for info on this once before and you provided nothing useful then and you provide nothing useful now.

[dangeris]

a simple search would have shown you that we've had remote starts installed on our cars for over a year now... both aftermarket and dealer installed options! You posted a page long message just to restate what 20+ other people have done...

The Doctor is ALWAYS right!!!

I've had a remote start on my car for awhile now too. It's called my son...I say one command..."Get your a$$ out there and start my car would ya"..and voila...it starts
Modified by dangeris at 9:37 AM 10/21/2008

[mcheddadi]

I did do a search and found that one the prices were high and that people (like you) gave incomplete information. Just saying go to your dealer and pay $700 and get the magical option that makes it work with your key fob doesn't help much. Why haven't you posted detailed information on how to do this and exactly where it can be done. But then I've already figured you out to be a thread ****ter. I actually posted for info on this once before and you provided nothing useful then and you provide nothing useful now.

damn!

rob, don't be a thread s***!

JBRO69, the smart thing to do if you have a prob with a member, is to contact him directly by email or our friendly mods brian, tyler or blake. it's a lot more safer than getting in a public confrontation with them.

[dangeris]

damn!

rob, don't be a thread s***!

JBRO69, the smart thing to do if you have a prob with a member, is to contact him directly by email or our friendly mods brian, tyler or blake. it's a lot more safer than getting in a public confrontation with them.

Always keeping the peace...excellent bro! We're all here for a common reason..the love of our cars.

[rjdmmfl1]

I did do a search and found that one the prices were high and that people (like you) gave incomplete information. Just saying go to your dealer and pay $700 and get the magical option that makes it work with your key fob doesn't help much. Why haven't you posted detailed information on how to do this and exactly where it can be done. But then I've already figured you out to be a thread ****ter. I actually posted for info on this once before and you provided nothing useful then and you provide nothing useful now.

wait a second.. am I to understand that you want a how to on how to install a remote start system? Or do you want a how to on how to find the correct products. In at least three previous threads on the subject of remote start, I have stated that in order to get a remote start installed on your vehicle, and NOT give up your factory fob, you need something like the can bus sl2 unit. Short of that, there is no magical information.

Thread # 1 on remote start June 2008 : http://forums.altimas.org/zerothread?id=346992

thread # 2 on remote starters January 2008: http://forums.altimas.org/zerothread?id=310139

thread # 3 on remote starts: Novemer 2007:http://forums.altimas.org/zerothread?id=296213

and anotherhttp://forums.altimas.org/zerothread?id=368126

and anotherhttp://forums.altimas.org/zerothread?id=307356

My point is this.. your thread is redundant... everything regarding remote starts has ben covered. you offer no new information, and you took a page to do so... regarding price... you get what you pay for... code alarm is one of the worst alarm companies in the business... that's a fact... most remote start alarms run about $400 just for the install, with the actualy alarm costing about $250-$350... if you were able to get the entire thing installed for $250 congrats, but it would be hard pressed for anyone else to get a quality remore start alarm installed for under $400 out the door

so again, if it seems like I'm shi*ing on your thread, its just because its redundant and contains no new information that what has already been discussed as illustrated above

[JBRO69]

My point is this.. your thread is redundant... everything regarding remote starts has ben covered. you offer no new information, and you took a page to do so... regarding price... you get what you pay for... code alarm is one of the worst alarm companies in the business... that's a fact... most remote start alarms run about $400 just for the install, with the actualy alarm costing about $250-$350... if you were able to get the entire thing installed for $250 congrats, but it would be hard pressed for anyone else to get a quality remore start alarm installed for under $400 out the door

so again, if it seems like I'm shi*ing on your thread, its just because its redundant and contains no new information that what has already been discussed as illustrated above

You seem to think I'm talking about an alarm system. I'm talking remote start only for $299. Don't need an alarm because I live near Detroit, safest city in the state. But it's starting to get cold outside here in Michigan so I would think that it would be appropriate to talk about remote starters for people who are new and considering getting one before the snow flies.

BTW, who elected you the guy to determine wheter threads where worthy of posting? Is it so hard for you to just sit by and not say anything?

[dangeris]

I just called my buddy who is the manager for a very reputable car audio / home audio store and they used to carry code alarm but customers brought them back because they would fail to work in a couple of months. Now that was a couple of years ago and perhaps their products have improved but it's like Hyundai...hard to break out of the bad rep.

You seem to think I'm talking about an alarm system. I'm talking remote start only for $299. Don't need an alarm because I live near Detroit, safest city in the state. But it's starting to get cold outside here in Michigan so I would think that it would be appropriate to talk about remote starters for people who are new and considering getting one before the snow flies.

BTW, who elected you the guy to determine wheter threads where worthy of posting? Is it so hard for you to just sit by and not say anything?

We appreciate your thoughts for new members that might have bought an AC and is are new to the forums and probably have the same questions like we did at one time or another. I know I was there but you need to understand, no one has appointed anyone here as the "go to " guy. We all contribute to the forums / community in one way or another. rjdmmfl1, aka Dr. Feelgood has contributed considerably and is looked upon as one of "authority" when it comes to car electronics / audio. Applebonklers is right up there as well. Like Doc said before in a different thread..Some tend to spend their money on exterior things (ie spoilers, wheels, etc. He spends his on the audio utopia...

Don't take Doc's post as a "lash out". He's just merely pointing out that what you've posted has already been covered...that's it. Infact when I first saw your thread, I said to myself..oh no..not another remote start thread... But I let it go because I wanted to hear what you wanted to say. In the end though a simple search on the subject would have revealed the links Doc posted above. It's all good!

[opekone_1988]

Wow! Good job Doc at making new members feel welcomed, Seriously.. you need to chill. We've been here long enough to know that there is always going to be new people/Members joining and you will get multiple similar threads all the time asking questions that have been answered months ago (And search function is not very functional) We need to be a bit more patient specially since some of us have been here for over a year back when our Baby 1st came out. By the way Doc, I need some advise in choosing a good RF amp 4XCH for my MB quart components RVF 269 and DSE216.

[dangeris]

I assume that it requires some sort of bypass to get passed the requirement of holding the brake during ignition...

Cool feature though. An alarm would be nice as well.

yes it does. When I put a remote start on my FJ Cruiser which was 6MT, the e bake had to be on and left out of gear. There was also a "sequence" that I had to do for the remote start to work after I shut off the ignition...I wanna say something like set e-bake, gear in neutral, patting my head and rub my belly..

[dangeris]

... By the way Doc, I need some advise in choosing a good RF amp 4XCH for my MB quart components RVF 269 and DSE216.

I'm sure since both of you guys live in San Diego, he'd probably be able to install it for you too...

[opekone_1988]

Actually dont need help with the audio, I install systems myself but I have outdated (Sad Sony) Amps and want to upgrade to some RF, would like PI's but too much $$$.

[LongBeachCoupe]

Wow... Guys i hope you have calmed down...

The bickering stops here.

[mcheddadi]

I vote for a cut some slack for new members "rule" for big posters including me, they will get with the program eventually and It's always nice seeing new faces and being able to help them.

here's some rules I like to follow :

If I see something I already saw posted (except if its a repost of what I POSTED lol) I ignore it.

If I feel the need to tell a member to use the search function, I don't unless its REALLY obvious stuff. if I do say it, I try to formulate it in a nice way like "I think we had a thread about it not long ago, try the search, you should find it " . instead of the "use the search"

if a member is pissing me off, well moo moo farm him lolol.and if I get personally attacked I go cry in a corner lol.

[II Knucklez II]

lmao moo moo farm him thats great

[ursus]

LoL wow doc your experiments must have gone really wrong in the labs, or u just woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Regardless of the threads redudancy, I think its ok to provide just another view on a certain product/procedure.

[marlin29311]

Lets all take a chill pill...no one is mad at anyone, it's just a forum...

Small threadjack, i actually played moo moo farm last night when i took my old N64 out - great stage

[JBRO69]

LoL wow doc your experiments must have gone really wrong in the labs, or u just woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Regardless of the threads redudancy, I think its ok to provide just another view on a certain product/procedure.

Well just look at what time he was posting!

While I may be new to forum I am not a nube to Nissan and its car line. I've been a supplier to the Nissan Tech Center in Farmington Hills (and Europe and Japan) for several years and know stuff that would make your head spin. Not that I would ever talk about it here or discuss who I work for. I will mention that I saw the new Z six months ago. It's sweet.

I actually suspected that I would be yanking someones chain here when I commited the sin of A) mentioning another installer and B) mentioning a price. But anyway, I did my research as it pertains to shops here in Detroit and they don't seem to be as up to speed as the shops on the coast. Imagine that, Detroit being behind the times technology wise!

Here in Detroit there are still aftermarket suppliers that want to take one of your keyfobs and hide it in the car to make the remote start work. Yes, that is stupid. There are still shops that claim they can do it and end up messing up your ride. That's just plain wrong. And the fact that even the dealers here cannot recommend a viable shop is sign that this needs to be talked about.

I've checked out Doc's post in the past and he does offer loads of good information. Perhaps some sleep would be in order, those aftermarket install guys never seem to be able to turn off sometimes. Relax. Would love to check out his shop when I'm out in San Diego next time because I'm sure I've seen his work on the streets out there.

Peace be with you.

[mcheddadi]

Well just look at what time he was posting!

While I may be new to forum I am not a nube to Nissan and its car line. I've been a supplier to the Nissan Tech Center in Farmington Hills (and Europe and Japan) for several years and know stuff that would make your head spin. Not that I would ever talk about it here or discuss who I work for. I will mention that I saw the new Z six months ago. It's sweet.

I actually suspected that I would be yanking someones chain here when I commited the sin of A) mentioning another installer and B) mentioning a price. But anyway, I did my research as it pertains to shops here in Detroit and they don't seem to be as up to speed as the shops on the coast. Imagine that, Detroit being behind the times technology wise!

Here in Detroit there are still aftermarket suppliers that want to take one of your keyfobs and hide it in the car to make the remote start work. Yes, that is stupid. There are still shops that claim they can do it and end up messing up your ride. That's just plain wrong. And the fact that even the dealers here cannot recommend a viable shop is sign that this needs to be talked about.

I've checked out Doc's post in the past and he does offer loads of good information. Perhaps some sleep would be in order, those aftermarket install guys never seem to be able to turn off sometimes. Relax. Would love to check out his shop when I'm out in San Diego next time because I'm sure I've seen his work on the streets out there.

Peace be with you.

you saw the next Z eh? tell us if nissan will makes an se-r altima coupe or an AWD version or a hardtop convertible. give us the INFOS!!! lol

[dangeris]

you saw the next Z eh? tell us if nissan will makes an se-r altima coupe or an AWD version or a hardtop convertible. give us the INFOS!!! lol

Absolutely...Give us info or we'll hunt you down

[rjdmmfl1]

this thread got off topic for a number of reasons, suffice to say, when I review my post and feel I'm a bit out of line I will apologize. THe first post came off a bit harsh, rude, and brash with an unnecessary antagonistic tone, and for that I apologize... the second post was in reaction to the idea that I haven't covered this topic and have provided "little" useful information when I was quite certain I covered both aspects of the remote start issue (aftermarket vs factory) in enough detail to allow folks to make good decisions.

To the OP, my apologies again, i wish you had contacted me directly about your remote start as I would have steered you away from code alarm for a number of reasons.

Also, regarding the remote start, I refer to them as alarms because most remote start systems comes with alarm packages, very few come without them. Also to the OP, I would have steered you towards a two way remote start with pager, especially since you live near the motor city. (crime happens everywhere, but more so in urban cities like detroit)

Also, the OP is spot on regarding experiments and my posts... I went into the lab yesterday at 10:10am, I left the lab at 5:30 am this morning just after the second post... hocked up on red bull , not making excuses, just explaining ...

again my apologies for disrupting the flow of the thread...

[SHIFT_COUPE]

Wait wait wait....

moo moo farm? hahahahha

[mcheddadi]

Wait wait wait....

moo moo farm? hahahahha

Them crazy monty moles

[rjdmmfl1]

I've checked out Doc's post in the past and he does offer loads of good information. Perhaps some sleep would be in order, those aftermarket install guys never seem to be able to turn off sometimes. Relax. Would love to check out his shop when I'm out in San Diego next time because I'm sure I've seen his work on the streets out there.

on a side note, i always chuckle to myself when folks here mention my shop and refer to me as an install guy...not that I take offense to this, if I wasn't doing medicine and biomedical resarch, my chosen career path would be in the world of car audio/video.. I know it sounds querky, but its true... this isn't my profession... its just a hobby

[maxentropy]

on a side note, i always chuckle to myself when folks here mention my shop and refer to me as an install guy...not that I take offense to this, if I wasn't doing medicine and biomedical resarch, my chosen career path would be in the world of car audio/video.. I know it sounds querky, but its true... this isn't my profession... its just a hobby

The same way folks think I'm a DJ by trade-- it's just a hobby folks. My day job is as a Systems Engineer.