+1. Not to mention you're fooling the BCM two different ways instead of one, and mama doesn't always like to be fooled. We've removed several of those units for frustrated owners who ended up with no-starts because the modules caused issues elsewhere in the security system.Ilya wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:10 pmSo you are looking to sacrifice one fob in the car to have the stock fob remote start ability? If so, your dealer may be able to point you in the right direction or any local car audio/remote start shop (they may be tell you what they'd install in your car and then you can just look for that product yourself/install yourself once you find it). Personally, that route (with stock fob) isn't worth it because the distance is very low IIRC. You're better going full aftermarket so you can get better range.
Ya I dont think I have seen a single user on these forums who has ever been happy with their remote start after a couple of months.VStar650CL wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:25 pm+1. Not to mention you're fooling the BCM two different ways instead of one, and mama doesn't always like to be fooled. We've removed several of those units for frustrated owners who ended up with no-starts because the modules caused issues elsewhere in the security system.
I was like you when I was looking at the options for my '11 M56x. I didn't want two fobs because I felt like it would be too much in my pocket. After having my FORTIN system now for 3-4 years, it's honestly not something I even care about.culblaster wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:48 pmI see. Range isn't a big issue for me - but I can see the advantage. The thing I really wanted to avoid was having to carry 2 fobs. I also didn't want to use an after market fob unless it fits in the little cubby for the OEM fob in the dash.
So must I carry 2 fobs? or must I switch to an aftermarket fob? one of those two options is required is what I'm hearing?
And can you name specific hardware that I need to get that will work?
Any sort of remote start has to fool the BCM by some means to get past the NATS/NVIS systems in the car. They don't really bypass the security in a sense of disabling or going around it, instead they pretend to be a valid fob in some fashion to get the BCM to do what you want. Some actually do it by embedding a hard-wired fob in the car, but most do it with software that's able to pretend it's a fob. I suppose you can call that "bypassing", but in fact it's more like "spoofing".culblaster wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:46 amThe website steers you at both of them for a 2007 M35x - implying the M35x is a "low power" application. It looks like the FORTIN EVO-All... wait one - I think it is just now dawning on me, these EVO units are Data Bypass/interface modules, they just give you access to the car's control systems... you then need to add a remote start unit or whatever units you then want to add to your car TO this bypass unit?
Worth a shot, but I doubt it. They'll probably be using a different frequency for their fob to avoid crosstalk and/or miscommunication. They'll want to avoid any potential situation where they're instructing the BCM to do one thing but the BCM is already doing another. Not just aggravating for you, it could conceivably send the BCM program "off in the weeds" and then everything would quit working.